https://en.touhouwiki.net/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Tsukihime&feedformat=atomTouhou Wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T07:34:41ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.39.3https://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=%E6%A1%9C%E6%AD%8C_-OUKA-&diff=267318桜歌 -OUKA-2012-06-28T15:18:44Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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| titlejp =桜歌 -OUKA-<br />
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| group =C-CLAYS<br />
| image =TOCD-0033.jpg<br />
| banner =Ouka 200 40.jpg<br />
| released =2012-05-27<br />
| convention =Reitaisai 9<br />
| catalogno =TOCD-0033<br />
| tracks =10<br />
| length =41:24<br />
| website =[http://www.c-clays.com/03_pro/ouka/ouka.html Link]<br />
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*1. '''divine spirit''' ''(3:01)''<br />
*2. '''{{lang|ja|サディスティック・キッチン}}''' ''(3:41)''<br />
*3. '''Surprised Me!!''' ''(4:20)''<br />
*4. '''mizukagimi''' ''(3:53)''<br />
*5. '''DOUBLE meet CONCERTO''' ''(4:06)''<br />
*6. '''PROM-i-SCUITY''' ''(6:59)''<br />
*7. '''Saggy pants poisoning''' ''(3:20)''<br />
*8. '''devil or pretty girl''' ''(3:01)''<br />
*9. '''The Crowd Magic''' ''(4:14)''<br />
*10. '''Wizard{{lang|ja|は粋狂}}''' ''(4:49)''<br />
}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=%E6%A1%9C%E6%AD%8C_-OUKA-&diff=267317桜歌 -OUKA-2012-06-28T15:18:01Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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<div>{{MusicArticle<br />
| titlejp =桜歌 -OUKA-<br />
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| titleen =<br />
| group =[[C-CLAYS]]<br />
| groupCat =C-Clays<br />
| image =TOCD-0033.jpg<br />
| banner =Ouka 200 40.jpg<br />
| released =2012-05-27<br />
| convention =Reitaisai 9<br />
| catalogno =TOCD-0033<br />
| tracks =10<br />
| length =41:24<br />
| website =[http://www.c-clays.com/03_pro/ouka/ouka.html Link]<br />
| illustrator =<br />
| designer =<br />
| arranger =<br />
| lyricist =<br />
| vocalist =<br />
| masterer =<br />
| producer =<br />
| tracklist =<br />
*1. '''divine spirit''' ''(3:01)''<br />
*2. '''{{lang|ja|サディスティック・キッチン}}''' ''(3:41)''<br />
*3. '''Surprised Me!!''' ''(4:20)''<br />
*4. '''mizukagimi''' ''(3:53)''<br />
*5. '''DOUBLE meet CONCERTO''' ''(4:06)''<br />
*6. '''PROM-i-SCUITY''' ''(6:59)''<br />
*7. '''Saggy pants poisoning''' ''(3:20)''<br />
*8. '''devil or pretty girl''' ''(3:01)''<br />
*9. '''The Crowd Magic''' ''(4:14)''<br />
*10. '''Wizard{{lang|ja|は粋狂}}''' ''(4:49)''<br />
}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=%E6%A1%9C%E6%AD%8C_-OUKA-&diff=267316桜歌 -OUKA-2012-06-28T15:17:17Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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<div>{{MusicArticle<br />
| titlejp =桜歌 -OUKA-<br />
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| titleen =<br />
| group =[[C-Clays]]<br />
| groupCat =C-Clays<br />
| image =TOCD-0033<br />
| banner =Ouka 200 40.jpg<br />
| released =2012-05-27<br />
| convention =Reitaisai 9<br />
| catalogno =TOCD-0033<br />
| tracks =10<br />
| length =41:24<br />
| website =[http://www.c-clays.com/03_pro/ouka/ouka.html Link]<br />
| illustrator =<br />
| designer =<br />
| arranger =<br />
| lyricist =<br />
| vocalist =<br />
| masterer =<br />
| producer =<br />
| tracklist =<br />
*1. '''divine spirit''' ''(3:01)''<br />
*2. '''{{lang|ja|サディスティック・キッチン}}''' ''(3:41)''<br />
*3. '''Surprised Me!!''' ''(4:20)''<br />
*4. '''mizukagimi''' ''(3:53)''<br />
*5. '''DOUBLE meet CONCERTO''' ''(4:06)''<br />
*6. '''PROM-i-SCUITY''' ''(6:59)''<br />
*7. '''Saggy pants poisoning''' ''(3:20)''<br />
*8. '''devil or pretty girl''' ''(3:01)''<br />
*9. '''The Crowd Magic''' ''(4:14)''<br />
*10. '''Wizard{{lang|ja|は粋狂}}''' ''(4:49)''<br />
}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=List_by_Groups&diff=265750List by Groups2012-06-17T19:59:11Z<p>Tsukihime: /* Aoba Seisakusho (青葉製作所) (Formerly 神像彫刻家) */</p>
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<div>'''ATTENTION:''' Please use [[Template:MusicArticle|this template]] when creating a page for an album.<br />
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For old groups who have not released a Touhou album after 2009, see [[List of Old Touhou Arrange Groups]].<br />
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{{Template:List by Groups}}<br />
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<section begin=Symbol /><br />
==(Symbol)==<br />
<br />
===⑨ウリバタケ===<br />
<br />
*[[わんぱく弾幕っ]]<br />
*[[いろは道中]]<br />
*[[旋律限界]]<br />
*[[逆サイド厄神道 ~その道~]]<br />
*[[Last Voice]] (compilation CD)<br />
<br />
===[[<echo>PROJECT]]===<br />
*[[neutrino*| [neutrino*] ]]<br />
*[[eclat:| [eclat:] ]]<br />
*[[rosée| [rosée] ]]<br />
<br />
===[[2SP+C'K]]===<br />
*[[STAR FRUIT.]]<br />
*[[当方似非々々夢 -not possible to read-]]<br />
<br />
===[[2nd Flush]] (formerly 右京屋)===<br />
*[[existence]]<br />
*[[I feel the star]]<br />
*[[Fantasy Circuit]]<br />
*[[Crystal Mind]]<br />
*[[Touhou Winter]]<br />
*[[Fragment de la lune]]<br />
*[[Rhythmic]]<br />
<br />
===[[38BEETS]]===<br />
<br />
*[[POISONING]]<br />
*[[PIECES]]<br />
*[[LABOR PAINS]]<br />
*[[PLEASANT]]<br />
*[[Circle]]<br />
*[[Rouge]] (Collaboration with [[#Alice Music|Alice Music]])<br />
*[[PUZZLE]]<br />
*[[Around]]<br />
*[[Ring]]<br />
*[[うたかた]]<br />
<br />
===[[3S Cubic]]===<br />
*[[東方霊譚曲]]<br />
*[[地平線のむこう側へ]]<br />
*[[東方友宴歌]]<br />
<br />
===[[5150]]===<br />
<br />
*[[シンフォニック東方]]<br />
*[[シンフォニック東方Ⅱ-先行編-]]<br />
*[[シンフォニック東方Ⅱ]]<br />
*[[シンフォニック東方Ⅲ-先行版-]]<br />
*[[シンフォニック東方Ⅲ]]<br />
*[[東方合体ゲンソウオー]]<br />
*[[東方合体ゲンソウオー1.5式]]<br />
*[[シンフォニック東方Ⅳ]]<br />
*[[MASTER SPARK 2011ver]]<br />
<br />
=== 9bFOX ===<br />
<br />
* [[I Love You]]<br />
<br />
===極東海賊団===<br />
<br />
*[[博麗神社焼肉祭~Extreme Grill Fest~]]<br />
<br />
===子猫奪回屋===<br />
<br />
*[[Varelser ~幻想音ノ羽集~]]<br />
*[[Realize ~地霊幻想譜~]]<br />
*[[Existence ~幻想百花繚乱~]]<br />
<br />
===竹串confusion ===<br />
<br />
*[[竹串のお通し]]<br />
<br />
=== 雨具文庫 ===<br />
<br />
*[[Arcano casino]]<br />
<br />
=== 命の限り好き勝手 ===<br />
<br />
*[[残念CD]]<br />
<br />
=== ゴツまさ倶楽部 ===<br />
<br />
*[[ゴツまさ倶楽部試聴版]]<br />
<br />
=== 華胥の永眠 ===<br />
<br />
*[[ミニアルバム]]<br />
<br />
=== 世界秘封病学会 ===<br />
<br />
*[[秘封サナトリウム]]<br />
<br />
=== 冷たい人比良が直せない予感 ===<br />
<br />
*[[幻想語]]<br />
<br />
=== 天狗ノ舞 ===<br />
<br />
*[[幻想邂逅憧憬夜行]]<br />
*[[THE CAUTION]]<br />
*[[ウツスサイノウ -トウホウバンドアレンジオンゲンシュウ テングノタヨリvol.2-]]<br />
<br />
=== ちょいむつ ===<br />
<br />
*[[One More Tea Time]]<br />
<br />
=== 初陣音屋 ===<br />
<br />
*[[紅白初陣音合戦!]]<br />
<br />
=== 黒岩君の美術館 ===<br />
<br />
* [[Black Rock Museum 2]]<br />
* [[ataraxia - 願うは儚き幻想の -]]<br />
<br />
=== 黒ヶ音研究室 ===<br />
<br />
* [[LIGHTNING MIRAGE]]<br />
<br />
=== 狐兎疋 ===<br />
<br />
*[[夢幻泡沫]]<br />
*[[雪月風花]]<br />
<br />
=== こもど~ね ===<br />
<br />
*[[ALIVE]]<br />
<br />
=== じゃねっと亭 ===<br />
<br />
*[[スノウレッド]]<br />
<br />
=== シュールレアチーズ ===<br />
<br />
*[[MIMOLETTE]]<br />
<br />
=== 空色作戦 ===<br />
<br />
* [[AMP]]<br />
<br />
=== 第零交響師団 ===<br />
<br />
* [[東方零響奇譚 ~ Sophisticated Insanity]]<br />
<br />
=== とーなるぐらびて ===<br />
<br />
* [[Logic]]<br />
<br />
=== 有限会社るざりん ===<br />
<br />
*[[色狂レプリカ]]<br />
<br />
===七誌===<br />
<br />
*[[Reclusive Funky life]]<br />
<br />
===ロクプラス===<br />
<br />
*[[東方幸信郷]]<br />
<br />
===領巾振~ヒレフリ~===<br />
<br />
*[[Fall in October]]<br />
<br />
===白楽亭===<br />
<br />
*[[閻魔日和]]<br />
<br />
===第二生徒会室===<br />
<br />
*[[厄災のない世界へver.0]]<br />
*[[LOUCURa]]<br />
<br />
===九龍海鮮飯店===<br />
<br />
*[[東方☆ゲットだぜ!]]<br />
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<section end=Symbol /><section begin=A /><br />
<br />
== A ==<br />
<br />
===[[A.R.C.]]===<br />
*[[ARCADIA]]<br />
<br />
===[[A.S.C.Y.]]===<br />
*[[東方四季彩宴]]<br />
*[[Auto-Focus]]<br />
*[[EASTERN GREEN MILE]]<br />
<br />
===[[A-HEAD]]===<br />
*[[No Union ~sundry color≒moon color~]]<br />
*[[Crimson Devil's Residence]]<br />
*[[暁月夜が明ける頃]]<br />
*[[現人神の謡声]]<br />
*[[籠リ謳]]<br />
*[[終音]]<br />
<br />
===[[A-One]]===<br />
* [[KARMA SCREEN]] (As A1)<br />
* [[POLYGON RAIN]] (As A1)<br />
* [[POD JACK]]<br />
* [[PAD JACK]]<br />
* [[DYSTOPIA]]<br />
* [[PLUG IN PLUG OUT]]<br />
* [[TOHO EUROBEAT VOL.1]]<br />
* [[Desktop Museum]]<br />
* [[Desktop Museum -Minus 1-]]<br />
* [[TOHO EUROBEAT VOL.2]]<br />
* [[KOMPAKT DISK]]<br />
* [[TOHO EUROBEAT VOL.3]]<br />
<br />
=== A-Star Islands (エースター群島) ===<br />
<br />
*[[Bouquet of Gentle Memories]]<br />
<br />
===a-TTTempo===<br />
*[[東方人形大戦]]<br />
*[[東方人形大戦+]]<br />
*[[東方人形大戦2]]<br />
*[[Prhythm!]]<br />
*[[UNKNOWN]]<br />
*[[TOHO FULL SWING]]<br />
<br />
===AcAs!===<br />
*[[風]]<br />
<br />
===activity===<br />
*[[quartet]]<br />
*[[twintail+]]<br />
*[[search-eye]]<br />
*[[delight]]<br />
<br />
===ad libitum records===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[蓮華狂異譚]]<br />
*[[玄海秋桜]]<br />
*[[Dividing from Hell]]<br />
*[[陽風蓮花]]<br />
<br />
===[[Adrena Gizyuku]] (アドレナ義塾)===<br />
See [[List by Groups#COOL CREATE|COOL&CREATE]]<br />
<br />
===Aftergrow===<br />
<br />
*[[colors of soundscape]]<br />
*[[Like a shooting star.EP]]<br />
*[[Gensou Diary]] (compilation CD)<br />
*[[墨染]] (compilation CD)<br />
<br />
===a HEAL===<br />
*[[「墨染」 幽雅に咲かせ、墨染の桜 ~ Border of Life オンリーアレンジ合同CD]]<br />
<br />
===AIR WINDOW===<br />
*[[蒼穹永幻奇環]]<br />
*[[幻覚之雪卿]]<br />
*[[早春ノ桜]]<br />
*[[晩春ノ桜]]<br />
*[[音來娘々夢想]]<br />
*[[音來娘々夢想 樂器版]]<br />
*[[夢幻少女の祈る夜]]<br />
*[[夢幻少女の祈る夜~もうひとつの物語~]]<br />
*[[白桜雪華ノ舞]]<br />
*[[東方シーサイドメモリーズ]]<br />
*[[風と見た空]]<br />
<br />
===[[Ajitama Seisyoku]] (味玉定食)===<br />
*[[Non-REM]]<br />
*[[AZITAMASPARK!!]]<br />
*[[Little Goodbye]]<br />
<br />
=== ak (東方隔離郷) ===<br />
<br />
*[[東方埋奏録~TO-HO may so ROCK!~]]<br />
*[[夜ノ雨]]<br />
<br />
===[[Akane Tyoutin]] (茜提灯)===<br />
*[[act 1]]<br />
*[[大⑨州東方祭 無料配布CD]]<br />
*[[ムラサキイロ]]<br />
*[[まほろば]]<br />
<br />
===Aki no Sora (秋の空)===<br />
*[[星影の天の原]]<br />
<br />
===Akuji ([[亜紅紫]])===<br />
*[[Carry Over]]<br />
*[[OverRide]]<br />
*[[SPIRAL NODE]]<br />
*[[A・WA・I・RO]]<br />
*[[Merry Go Survive]]<br />
*[[BASK PHI]]<br />
*[[MELT DOWN]]<br />
*[[銀河少女アルゴリズム]]<br />
<br />
===Aleile===<br />
*[[Beauteous Rain]]<br />
<br />
===ALICE:made===<br />
*[[ALICE'S EVIDENCE]]<br />
*[[ALICE'S NIGHTMARE]]<br />
<br />
===[[ALiCE'S EMOTiON]]===<br />
*[[SCARLET EYES|SCARLET EYES -スカーレットアイズ-]]<br />
*[[Crevice|Crevice -クレヴィス-]]<br />
*[[Trois|Trois Rouge]]<br />
*[[Chaos Flare|Chaos Flare -カオスフレア-]]<br />
*[[COLORS|COLORS -カラーズ-]]<br />
*[[Lycoris|Lycoris -リコリス-]]<br />
*[[Sphere Caliber|Sphere Caliber -スフィアキャリバー-]]<br />
*[[Intervention|Intervention -インターベンション-]]<br />
*[[TAILWINDS|TAILWINDS -テイルウィンズ-]]<br />
*[[RED]]<br />
*[[SAISEN TURN]]<br />
*[[THIRD ENSEMBLE: ROUGE]]<br />
*[[Overture KANA]]<br />
*[[Overture SUWA]]<br />
*[[SAISEN RETURN]]<br />
<br />
===Alice Friends (ありすふれんず)===<br />
*[[Cycle of Rebirth]]<br />
<br />
===[[Alice Music]]===<br />
*[[東方夢乃唄~壱~]]<br />
*[[東方夢乃唄~弐~]]<br />
*[[Masterpiece]]<br />
*[[heart×hurt]]<br />
*[[Rouge]] (Collaboration with [[#38EETS|38BEETS]])<br />
*[[ホシニネガイヲ]]<br />
*[[Madder]]<br />
*[[月ト姫ト永夜ト]]<br />
*[[ありす†ほりっく]]<br />
<br />
===Alstroemeria Records===<br />
<br />
*[[against, perfect cherry blossom]]<br />
*[[東方幻樂編曲集第二集 舞 -MAI-]]<br />
*[[東方幻樂編曲集第参集 禅 -ZEN-]]<br />
*[[trace phantasmagoria]]<br />
*[[genealogy shrinemaiden]]<br />
*[[A. Aurantiaca]]<br />
*[[Lily of the Incas]]<br />
*[[stem of radiant]] (collaboration with Cradle)<br />
*[[NITE VERSIONS]]<br />
*[[BLUE NOTE]]<br />
*[[STRINGS OF LIFE]]<br />
*[[LAST MOMENT TO REMEMBER]]<br />
*[[The Garnet Star]]<br />
*[[The Last Judgement (Alstroemeria Records)|The Last Judgement]]<br />
*[[Lovelight]]<br />
*[[Dolls]]<br />
*[[Circuit Breakers]]<br />
*[[HARMONY]]<br />
*[[DANCEFLOOR COMBAT]]<br />
*[[EXSERENS]]<br />
*[[For Your Pieces]]<br />
*[[Signature]]<br />
*[[Trois|Trois Noir]]<br />
*[[Aspherical Surface e.p.]]<br />
*[[Fragment Reactions]]<br />
*[[The Brilliant Flowers]]<br />
*[[Plastik World]]<br />
*[[Double Counterpoint]]<br />
*[[of memories]]<br />
*[[SAISEN TURN]]<br />
*[[THIRD ENSEMBLE: NOIR]]<br />
*[[EXSERENSES]]<br />
*[[SAISEN RETURN]]<br />
*[[Killed Dancehall]]<br />
<br />
===Alternate (おるたねーと)===<br />
*[[prima]]<br />
*[[Zwei]]<br />
*[[Tres]]<br />
<br />
===ALTERNATIVE===<br />
*[[Nocturnal Flight]]<br />
*[[Twilight Symphony]]<br />
*[[RECONQUISTA]]<br />
*[[Prominence]]<br />
<br />
===Altneuland (アルトノイラント)===<br />
*[[帰るべき城]]<br />
*[[届け、我らの頭上に在りし水なき海へ]]<br />
*[[七曜式魔法序論]]<br />
<br />
===Amateras Records===<br />
*[[Artifact]]<br />
*[[Little Prayer]]<br />
<br />
===Amin Gareki Nobaa (安眠(あみん)ガレキのばぁー)===<br />
<br />
*[[幻想郷エレクトリ]]<br />
*[[幻想電奏響]]<br />
*[[電騒幻聴響]]<br />
<br />
===Ancient Chronicle===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[春風と月夜と共に - Nocturnal Upper-Eastward.]]<br />
<br />
*[[空に輝く淡い光 - Moonlight Shrine.]]<br />
*[[夢幻月光 - Drastic Preterite.]]<br />
*[[遠い空を往く - Voyage Note.]]<br />
*[[古事幻定抄 - "Ancient Chronicle" Number 1.]]<br />
*[[古事幻定抄 - "Ancient Chronicle" Number 2.]]<br />
*[[古事幻定抄 - "Ancient Chronicle" Number 4.]]<br />
*[[古事幻定抄 - "Ancient Chronicle" Number 5.]]<br />
*[[幻想郷雑録 - An Eastern Mystery.]]<br />
<br />
===And-of-world===<br />
<br />
*[[memento]]<br />
<br />
===[[Ankoro Box]] (あんころ箱)===<br />
*[[A/B RMX]]<br />
*[[Step up! Step up!!!]]<br />
<br />
===Angelic Quasar===<br />
<br />
*[[Racial Ethnic Nation]]<br />
*[[萃窮之夢]]<br />
*[[FRENZY SQUARE]]<br />
*[[Check it up 妖!]]<br />
*[[輝羅星]]<br />
*[[幽世の空蝉]]<br />
*[[紅夜ノ刻 -Aganai no toki-]]<br />
*[[ごめん、超ごめん。]]<br />
*[[桜 Nightmare]]<br />
*[[Missing Mythic]]<br />
*[[なつかげ!]]<br />
*[[月喰淵夜 -ツクバミエンヤ-]]<br />
*[[Dark matteR]]<br />
<br />
*[[Coure]]<br />
*[[東方俗楽譚 -其の壱-]]<br />
<br />
→succeeded by [[List of Groups#Rolling Contact|Rolling Contact]]<br />
<br />
===AniPix===<br />
*[[innocent]]<br />
*[[Rectia]]<br />
*[[Sensitive Moment]]<br />
*[[1 Chain]]<br />
<br />
→succeeded by [[#Rolling Contact|Rolling Contact]]<br />
<br />
===[[Ankakeya]] (あんかけ屋) (formerly S.D.HARDCORE)===<br />
*[[S.D.HARDCORE VOL.1]]<br />
*[[Lunatic*party night]]<br />
<br />
===[[Another Dimension]] (あなざーでぃめんしょん)===<br />
<br />
*[[東方戦心 〜 東方Warheart]]<br />
*[[東方速攻 〜 東方High Speed]]<br />
*[[Complete Calculation of Cosmos / S.S.S.]]<br />
*[[東方鋼鉄師 〜 東方メタルマスター]]<br />
*[[東方紅域 〜 東方Redzone]]<br />
*[[東方時間籠 〜 東方Timecage]]<br />
*[[東方紅従士 〜 東方Scarlet Knight]]<br />
<br />
===Aoba Seisakusho ([[青葉製作所]]) (Formerly 神像彫刻家)===<br />
*[[黎明幻譜集 ~ the Past to Future ~]]<br />
*[[神像彫刻家 ~ Music Engraver ~]]<br />
*[[神像黒歴史 ~ the Black Chronicle ~]]<br />
*[[夢幻戯曲抄 ~ If you hope ~]]<br />
*[[胎動賛歌 ~ Return to ZERO ~]]<br />
*[[画竜点睛 ~ Important Last Piece ~]]<br />
*[[人形師の夢と目覚め 小序集「夢世界への招待」]]<br />
*[[人形師の夢と目覚め 第一集「白黒の夢」]]<br />
*[[組曲「橋姫」]]<br />
*[[緋色の舞]]<br />
*[[Mononoke Shibai]]<br />
<br />
===Aoiro kagaku (蒼色科学工房)===<br />
*[[Little Vampire Girl]]<br />
*[[NO]]<br />
<br />
===Apuenu Start! (あぷえぬすたーと)===<br />
*[[東方ラヂヲ和歌集 ~Vocal Arrange Musics~]]<br />
*[[どりこれ。 -Dream Collaboration Movie Collection-]]<br />
*[[寿司詰め合わせ ~東方ラヂヲ和歌集あぺんどでぃすく~]]<br />
<br />
===[[AQUA STYLE]]===<br />
<br />
*[[東方奇闘劇~SupremeDuel~]]<br />
*[[東方奇闘曲]]<br />
*[[東方奇闘曲2]]<br />
*[[東方奇闘劇団!!2 魔法冥土 まじかる☆さくやちゃんvsみらくる☆さなえちゃん]]<br />
*[[悪性変異]]<br />
*[[中国「お前が味方になるのなら、幻想郷の半分をくれてやろう」]]<br />
*[[紅魔と洋酒と宴会モノ。]]<br />
*[[幻想天地人]]<br />
*[[明鏡止水 -不思議の幻想郷 Original Soundtrack-]]<br />
*[[東方奇闘曲☆外伝]]<br />
*[[霊夢と魔理沙と冒険モノ。]]<br />
*[[東方奇闘劇団!]]<br />
*[[東方奇奏曲]]<br />
*[[東方奇闘劇団!!2]]<br />
*[[幻想天地人]]<br />
*[[明鏡止水]]<br />
*[[鏡花水月-もっと!?不思議の幻想郷 Original Soundtrack-]]<br />
<br />
===AQUAELIE===<br />
*[[疾走大結界~Plastic mind in Casket of star]]<br />
*[[神速裁判 ~ Rapidity is a justice]]<br />
*[[あくえり!~ AQUAELIE fanDISC vol.1]]<br />
*[[あくえり2 ~ AQUAELIE fanDISC vol.2]]<br />
*[[Unbeatable Accomplice]] (collaboration with [[#Unlucky Morpheus|Unlucky Morpheus]])<br />
*[[あくえり3]]<br />
*[[ultimate cherry blossoms]]<br />
*[[あくえり4]]<br />
*[[あくえり5]]<br />
<br />
===AQUARIA MUSICS===<br />
*[[恐怖の幻想改革 プレビュー版]]<br />
*[[恐怖の幻想改革 genso salad surgery]]<br />
*[[東方チップチューン地獄]]<br />
<br />
===[[AramiTama (荒御霊)]]===<br />
*[[SpellCore]]<br />
*[[一霊四魂]]<br />
*[[拘束人形~the breakdown of alice~]]<br />
*[[SpellCore ACT2 -Toughness]]<br />
*[[胡蝶夢眼 ~drip the drop of drug for trip to slip]]<br />
*[[SpellCore ACT3 -Flowering]]<br />
*[[荒御霊 DS-10 REMIXIES]]<br />
*[[紅女の血宴 / quoderatDEMONstrandum]]<br />
*[[SpellCore ACT4 -Aura]]<br />
*[[灰霊 ~Highly Layered]]<br />
*[[荒御霊 VS. FRAGILE ONLINE -BREAKCORE DJ BATTLE-]]<br />
*[[SpellCore ACT5 -Valley]]<br />
*[[SpellBreaks]]<br />
*[[弦祭 ~ フルエのマツリ]]<br />
*[[魔界戯音 ~the World without Dollmaster]]<br />
*[[SpellStylus]]<br />
*[[SpellCore ACT6 -Philosophia]]<br />
*[[おやすみなさい]]<br />
*[[SpellStylus Part2 -Minus]]<br />
*[[華人の星霜]]<br />
*[[Bridge Monster E.P.]]<br />
*[[Upper!!]]<br />
*[[SpellTech-i]]<br />
*[[SpellTech-n]]<br />
*[[SpellTech-c]]<br />
*[[SpellTech2]]<br />
*[[SpellCore EXTRA]]<br />
*[[綺想PSY / マジックキック]]<br />
*[[地下宇宙的恍惚幻覚音盤]]<br />
*[[妖遥 ~ Youyou]]<br />
*[[紅漆紅 ~ Akashic]]<br />
*[[神無楽]]<br />
*[[永履明日 ~ Alias]]<br />
*[[旅行 Soundscape]]<br />
*[[SpellTech 3]]<br />
*[[HARD TECH SPELL]]<br />
*[[HADES / DENDERA]]<br />
*[[SpellTech 4]]<br />
<br />
===Area-Zero (領域ZERO) ===<br />
*[[Touhou Skyfight Soundtrack "STARDUST DREAMS"]]<br />
*[[東方空宴歌 sideA]]<br />
*[[東方空宴歌 sideB]]<br />
<br />
===[[ARIACROWN]]===<br />
*[[東方紅蓮月]]<br />
<br />
===Aria Rhythm===<br />
*[[恋は火力!!]]<br />
*[[彼女と星の唄]]<br />
*[[カリスマ]]<br />
<br />
===[[Art Book Chipika]]===<br />
*[[東方奏嵐節]]<br />
*[[東方洒少節]]<br />
*[[東方極光天 ~ Sky Lights]]<br />
<br />
===As/Hi Soundworks===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[紅華瀟乱 ~RAPID ENSEMBLE~]]<br />
*[[RABBIT ENSEMBLE]]<br />
*[[泡沫の夜の夢]]<br />
*[[それは闇雲に玩ばれる操り人形の如く]]<br />
*[[夜想仰月 ~Rapid Ensemble 2~]]<br />
*[[As Higher & Higher]]<br />
*[[Face to Faith]]<br />
*[[風神祭祀 ~Rapid Ensemble|風神祭祀 ~Rapid Ensemble 3~]]<br />
*[[あすひおためしばん]]<br />
*[[Fantaisie Orientale]]<br />
*[[Touhou Small Compilation for Piano Op.1]]<br />
*[[水鏡映花 ~Rapid Ensemble 4~]]<br />
<br />
=== Ash ===<br />
<br />
*[[WONDER LAND]]<br />
<br />
===Ash Blind===<br />
*[[ピアノのための東方小曲集 Op.1-1]]<br />
*[[霊火神焔 ~Eastern Alternation~]]<br />
<br />
===Assault Door===<br />
*[[CIRNO IN WONDERLAND]]<br />
*[[MY FAIR LITTLE RED]]<br />
*[[月遊]]<br />
<br />
===Astral Trip (あすとらるTrip)===<br />
*[[幻想郷ミソギバライ]]<br />
<br />
===At Living===<br />
*[[東方七鍵盤 ~ 東方楽曲IIDX風パロディアレンジCD]]<br />
<br />
=== Ato-siva ===<br />
<br />
*[[GrapefruitMoon]]<br />
<br />
===[[Attrielectrock]]===<br />
*[[A Cafe Chic Records]]<br />
*[[つきなんてつかえない / ...and cradle to flatline]]<br />
*[[A Cafe Chic Records #02 "after-noon"]]<br />
*[[FIND]]<br />
*[[A Cafe Chic Records #03 "white-alarm"]]<br />
*[[A Cafe Chic Records #04 -open code-]]<br />
*[[A Cafe Chic Records / ad]]<br />
*[[serial,R series "8XXX01" #01 -LILITH-]]<br />
*[[serial,R series "9XXX02" #02 -MAGDALENA-]]<br />
*[[colors stratosblue]] (collab with Q-bit)<br />
*[[serial,R series "10XX03" #03 "joshua"]]<br />
*[[紫丁香花]]<br />
*[[清風明月]]<br />
*[[ACCR a perfect day]]<br />
*[[planisphere -朱の明星-]]<br />
*[[租界条例 ~Qualia kiss~]]<br />
*[[Dolce Rose 1 Strawberry ShortcakeS]]<br />
*[[Dolce Rose 2 Golden Chocolate]]<br />
*[[Dolce_Rose_3_Blueberry_Tarte|Dolce Rose #3 BlueBerry Tarte]]<br />
*[[秘封計画]]<br />
*[[masquerade stardust EP]]<br />
*[[Dolce Rose Collection]]<br />
*[[ForestBox*2]]<br />
*[[Apple Tree]]<br />
*[[MMM]]<br />
*[[Jampit!]]<br />
*[[ReFIND]]<br />
*[[du Cafe' due]]<br />
<br />
===Azure & Sands===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[東方 JAZZ 2005]]<br />
*[[西行寺事件簿]]<br />
*[[東方 JAZZ 2006]]<br />
*[[東方 JAZZ 2007]]<br />
*[[戯曲幻想 -cherry garden project-]]<br />
*[[マサミカウトガリア]]<br />
*[[東方 JAZZ 2008]]<br />
*[[holy night's Dong]]<br />
*[[八雲紫の多世界解釈]]<br />
*[[CASINO聖輦船]]<br />
*[[十六夜咲夜の時間旅行]]<br />
<section end=A /><section begin=B /><br />
<br />
== B ==<br />
<br />
===B.H.B===<br />
*[[東方溢桜蕾 -Toho Its's All Right!!- ごめんなさい Ver.]]<br />
<br />
===B.L. Addictive===<br />
<br />
*[[LUNATIC WORLD SUPER NOVA]]<br />
<br />
===bamboo project===<br />
<br />
*[[放蕩恋娘]]<br />
<br />
===Bamboo River===<br />
*[[東方狂月華]]<br />
*[[東方紅月華]]<br />
*[[東方夢迷華]]<br />
*[[東方風月華]]<br />
<br />
===Be Used===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[Be Addicted ~ 東方廻帰]]<br />
*[[Be Birthed ~ 東方綺音]]<br />
*[[Be Alice ~ 東方人形]]<br />
<br />
=== Bear House (クマノヘヤ) ===<br />
<br />
*[[東方多重声 ~幻~]]<br />
<br />
===beat-joker===<br />
*[[東方ランドスケープ]]<br />
<br />
===BirdTune (ばーどちゅーん)===<br />
<br />
*[[東方ちゅんちゅん郷]]<br />
*[[すいーつぱれっと]]<br />
<br />
===BITPLANE===<br />
*[[EASTERN FAIRY TALE]]<br />
*[[竹取物語]]<br />
*[[The Secret Of Alice]]<br />
<br />
===Bitter Quartz===<br />
*[[ALCHEMIST]]<br />
*[[MENTALISTS]]<br />
<br />
=== Black Cat Lounge (クロネコラウンジ) ===<br />
<br />
*[[House set of ”Undefined Fantastic Object”]]<br />
<br />
===Black Label Records===<br />
*[[東方音伽盤]]<br />
*[[東方幻舞闘]]<br />
*[[東方音伽盤 改]]<br />
*[[Black Label Records お詫びCD]]<br />
*[[東方音伽盤 弐]]<br />
*[[東方幻奏囃]]<br />
<br />
===BLANKFIELD===<br />
*[[The Edge of the Knife]]<br />
*[[Fast Forward To End Of East]]<br />
*[[permutation suiside]]<br />
<br />
===Bloody Sword===<br />
*[[東方歌劇曲]]<br />
*[[東方歌謡メタル]]<br />
*[[東方妖艶録]]<br />
<br />
===BlueMica===<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[魔理沙の冒険 オリジナルサウンドトラック]]<br />
<br />
===BOXELL===<br />
<br />
*[[Koikoi Gensokyo Original Soundtrack]]<br />
<br />
===BPM:Maximum Creations===<br />
<br />
*[[永夜抄 Ocestra&Live]]<br />
<br />
===BrainStorm===<br />
*[[Out Of Door ~この先のあなたに~]]<br />
<br />
===Brainstorm (ぶれいんすとーむ)===<br />
*[[東方緋想謌]]<br />
<br />
===BubbleRecords===<br />
*[[Re:+]]<br />
*[[Re:-]]<br />
*[[まるごとチルノ]]<br />
*[[fiori]]<br />
*[[Reel]]<br />
*[[ribonn]]<br />
*[[aqua]]<br />
*[[sound piece #01]]<br />
*[[Gramophone]]<br />
<br />
===Bui Shinkushu (武威・真駆主)===<br />
*[[Ultra Dash ☆]]<br />
<br />
===Bunchō Online (文鳥Online。)===<br />
<br />
*[[蟹]]<br />
*[[東方林檎飴~Crimson Capsule~]]<br />
*[[東方徒然雲 ~1 day of a NEET~]]<br />
*[[東方銀弾丸 ~Magazine of Silver Bullets~]]<br />
*[[東方夢現境 ~Fact from Fiction~]]<br />
*[[東方文鳥録 ~Return Reanimateness~]]<br />
*[[Underground Lovers]]<br />
*[[Sugar+Strike]]<br />
<br />
===Business Windows===<br />
*[[桜梅桃李]]<br />
*[[Helichrysum Moon]]<br />
<br />
===[[Buta-Otome]] ([[豚乙女]])===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[東方回転木馬]]<br />
*[[幻想ホモ・ルーデンス]]<br />
*[[ロングスカートパノラマガール]]<br />
*[[東方猫鍵盤]]<br />
*[[黄昏エレジー]]<br />
*[[縁]]<br />
*[[東方猫鍵盤2]]<br />
*[[感謝感激雨あられ]]<br />
<br />
===Byou no hito (鋲の人)===<br />
<br />
*[[螢]]<br />
*[[宵]]<br />
*[[Celestial Vane (not Touhou-specific)]]<br />
*[[before dark]]<br />
*[[Inexperience (not Touhou-specific; collaboration with Spiral Music)]]<br />
*[[東方マニアIIDX-Te amo-]]<br />
*[[NIGHT TIME]]<br />
*[[貴女のための月見草]]<br />
*[[私の都忘れを]]<br />
*[[翠]]<br />
*[[緋]]<br />
*[[フルートとリコーダーによる小品集/蟲姫ジェラート]]<br />
*[[From my bug-geschwinder-]]<br />
*[[From my bag-patimento-]]<br />
*[[ぐるりぐるぐる]]<br />
*[[往ぬは神]]<br />
<section end=B /><br />
<section begin=C /><br />
<br />
== C ==<br />
<br />
===C9===<br />
*[[Odyssey]]<br />
*[[Another History]]<br />
*[[博麗踊跳曲蒐]]<br />
<br />
===C.H.S===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[for the Lunatix]]<br />
*[[Unlimited Spark!]]<br />
*[[Neetmania]]<br />
*[[蟲と東方と毒殺(ハニー)ミルク]] ''(honey milk) ''<br />
*[[蟲と東方と青酸(メロン)ソーダ]] ''(melon soda)''<br />
*[[Ultra Cute!?]]<br />
*[[Unconnected.]]<br />
*[[Honey I Scream!]]<br />
*[[RESetup;]]<br />
*[[Overture SUWA]]<br />
<br />
===[[C.S.C→luv]]===<br />
*[[東方 NEW WAVE OF NEW WAVE vol.1]]<br />
*[[東方 NEW WAVE OF NEW WAVE vol.2 Preview Disc]]<br />
*[[東方 NEW WAVE OF NEW WAVE vol.2]]<br />
*[[東方 NEW WAVE OF NEW WAVE vol.3]]<br />
*[[こんなんですみませんCD]]<br />
*[[まじゴメンこんなんで許してCD]]<br />
*[[東方 NEW WAVE]]<br />
*[[triadic operation]]<br />
*[[文々衛星]]<br />
*[[hysterical object]]<br />
*[[U.S.J]]<br />
*[[Good Bye...]]<br />
<br />
===C-CLAYS===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[東方雪花 ~East dawn~]]<br />
*[[水籠 ~MIZU KAGO~]]<br />
*[[月華繚乱 ~GEKKA RYOURAN~]]<br />
*[[花蝶風月 ~KACHOU FUUGETU~]]<br />
*[[天奏月譚 ~TENSOU GETTAN~]]<br />
*[[遙 ~HARUKA~]]<br />
*[[GROUND ZERO ~TOHO ROCK!! 2007]]<br />
*[[東方幻奏祀典 風華~KAZABANA~]]<br />
*[[幻想天舞 ~GENSOUTENBU~]]<br />
*[[神樂 ~KAGURA~]]<br />
*[[雪月華 ~SETU GEKKA~]]<br />
*[[幻奏舞曲 ~GENSOU BUKYOKU~]]<br />
*[[神凪 ~KAN-NAGI~]]<br />
*[[彩麗-Xirai-]]<br />
*[[遊穹 U-KYU]]<br />
*[[AGGRESSIVE ELEMENTS]]<br />
*[[夕詠 SEKIEI]]<br />
*[[星月夜 -ホシツクヨ-]]<br />
*[[咲禮 -サクラ-]]<br />
*[[AGGRESSIVE EMOTION]]<br />
*[[灯岸 -HIGAN-]]<br />
*[[想奏 -オモイカネ-]]<br />
*[[煌彩 -KOUSAI-]]<br />
*[[FIORITA]]<br />
*[[AGGRESSIVE EXPLOSION]]<br />
*[[舞音 ~native place~]]<br />
<br />
---<br />
<br />
: See also [[#K2 SOUND|K2 SOUND]]<br />
<br />
===CCup ([[Cカップ]])===<br />
*[[Sway]]<br />
*[[Syabondarpeggio]]<br />
<br />
===Camphor===<br />
*[[Camphor Music side create collection #1]]<br />
<br />
===Cat Styles===<br />
*[[東方混淆夜]]<br />
*[[東方magic]]<br />
*[[WindEyes]]<br />
<br />
=== Cavija's Properties Store (梶迫小道具店) ===<br />
*[[M3 mix CD]]<br />
*[[Capricioasă Gând]]<br />
*[[Hide & Seek]]<br />
*[[神無楽]]<br />
*[[Records del Mil lenni]]<br />
*[[N13]]<br />
<br />
===CC*=Style===<br />
*[[Crimson Reflection]]<br />
*[[Toho Trance Vision]]<br />
<br />
===Chaos Concerto===<br />
*[[幻想妖音蒐]]<br />
<br />
===Chaos Core Recordings===<br />
*[[東方精神裁判]]<br />
<br />
===ChaoticDawn===<br />
*[[熱血紅白]]<br />
<br />
===Charge of uniform===<br />
*[[Red Herring -Practice mode-]]<br />
<br />
===Cherry Lunaburst===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[奏楽 ~東方アンサンブル~]]<br />
*[[東方ヴィヴァーチェ]]<br />
*[[東方アッチェレランド]]<br />
*[[東方パストーソ]]<br />
*[[innerCast]]<br />
*[[From Oneday to Presence]]<br />
*[[万紙開穴]]<br />
*[[フォールオブピンクフォール]]<br />
<br />
===Cherry Sound===<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[Beginning]]<br />
<br />
===CHESS===<br />
*[[翠]]<br />
<br />
===chipion===<br />
*[[SUPER NOVA GiRL]]<br />
*[[SHE iS MiND PASS FiLTER]]<br />
*[[スカーレット・ディスコ]]<br />
*[[ELECTRiC Re:ViEW]]<br />
*[[Hold the light.EP]]<br />
*[[墨染 (合同企画CD)]]<br />
*[[キセキセツナダンス]]<br />
<br />
===Chom-Koubou (ちょむ工房)===<br />
*[[東方サマーランド]]<br />
<br />
===[[Church Mode]] (ちゃーちもーど)===<br />
*[[東方教会旋法 - Ostliche Kirchenform -]]<br />
*[[東方mochatronik1]]<br />
<br />
===Circadian===<br />
*[[逆夢Projection]]<br />
<br />
===Circle Katoh (サークル加藤)===<br />
*[[東方加藤-@]]<br />
<br />
===Circle S&G===<br />
<br />
*[[東方Destroy 試聴版]]<br />
*[[東方Destroy]]<br />
<br />
===Cis-Trance===<br />
*[[東方硬核夜]]<br />
*[[東方ハードコア]] (Touhou Hardcore)<br />
*[[踊る東方レイヴ]]<br />
*[[東方紅想歌]]<br />
*[[踊る東方ドリフト-PRACTICE-]]<br />
*[[100%東方カーニバル]]<br />
*[[踊る東方ドリフト]]<br />
*[[踊る東方ドリフト -’turbo-]]<br />
*[[200%東方ハードコア]]<br />
*[[ABNORMAL DANCE]]<br />
*[[踊る東方レイヴ体験版]]<br />
*[[東方紅想歌 ~前夜祭~]]<br />
*[[テクネMIX001]]<br />
*[[FANATIC HARDCORE - RED LABEL]]<br />
*[[FANATIC HARDCORE - BLACK LABEL]]<br />
*[[THE SWEET DEVILS]]<br />
*[[ABNORMAL VOICE]]<br />
*[[TOHO JUMPING DISCO]]<br />
*[[TOO NEGATIVE]]<br />
<br />
===clear quartz===<br />
*[[東方響乱樂]]<br />
*[[東方響乱樂 弐式]]<br />
<br />
=== Cloister Notes ===<br />
<br />
*[[Abendrot]]<br />
<br />
===Clonesoldier's Factory===<br />
*[[Eastern Piano & Ensemble -The Concert for Crimson Ladies-]]<br />
*[[DOUBLE IGNITION]]<br />
<br />
===CM11===<br />
*[[11 Colors]]<br />
*[[秋風の調べ]]<br />
*[[Fairies' Quarrel!!]]<br />
<br />
===Cocktail M49 (かくてるM49)===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[東方かくてる]]<br />
*[[東方実験室]]<br />
*[[palette]]<br />
*[[MONOCHLORE -Prologue-]]<br />
*[[MONOCHLORE]]<br />
<br />
===CODE ZTS LABEL===<br />
<br />
*[[VAGUE extend]]<br />
*[[Selfregards2]]<br />
<br />
===CODE-49===<br />
*[[東方電脳街]]<br />
*[[東方昇華想]]<br />
*[[Cantrip]]<br />
<br />
===co1168===<br />
<br />
*[[Lie is reality]]<br />
<br />
===[[ColorfulCube]]===<br />
*[[Prism Light Fragments]]<br />
*[[Moonlit Fragments]]<br />
*[[Pieces of Memorable Dreams]]<br />
*[[Pieces of Antinomy Mind]]<br />
*[[Pieces of Antinomy Mind Side-B: Alice in PMD]]<br />
*[[霊 -rei-]]<br />
*[[Phantasmal Junction Side-A:あんびえんと行]]<br />
*[[Phantasmal Junction Side-B:びーと行]]<br />
*[[Phantasmal Junction Side-C: ちっぷちゅ~ん行]]<br />
*[[Accumulated Fragments]] (A selection of tracks from previous albums)<br />
<br />
===Coloured Glaze===<br />
*[[探し物、落し物~Fantasia of boundary~]]<br />
<br />
===Comfort Colors===<br />
*[[真夜中の幻想楽団]]<br />
<br />
===ComicFishing===<br />
<br />
*[[盈月紀年~Plenilune Annals]]<br />
*[[盈月紀年2 ~ others have their destiny, we have our own]]<br />
<br />
===Comiket Of Death===<br />
*[[松戸エクストリーム]]<br />
<br />
===Compellege===<br />
<br />
*[[zenith]]<br />
<br />
===Compllege===<br />
*[[zenith]]<br />
<br />
===[[Conagusuri]] (こなぐすり)===<br />
*[[東方漢方薬]]<br />
*[[東方幻舞薬]]<br />
*[[東方對魔薬 ~先行マキシ版~]]<br />
*[[東方對魔薬]]<br />
*[[チルミックス]]<br />
*[[東方河童乃薬]]<br />
*[[東方万能飲薬]]<br />
*[[東方虹華薬]]<br />
*[[音召薬]] (Collaboration with OTOMEKAN)<br />
*[[東方神魔薬]]<br />
*[[Era of conagusuri 01]]<br />
<br />
===Concorde===<br />
*[[東方AAA!REVENGE!!]]<br />
<br />
===Contrast===<br />
<br />
*[[咲乱舞曲]]<br />
*[[C72 omakeCD]]<br />
*[[東方特攻隊]]<br />
<br />
===COOL&CREATE===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[STG x STG (Non-Touhou)]]<br />
*[[東方ストライク]]<br />
*[[東方ホムーラン]]<br />
*[[drizzly train]]<br />
*[[Flowering ERINNNNNN!!]]<br />
*[[スーパーあまねりお]]<br />
*[[スーパーシャッターガール]]<br />
*[[ぎりぎり☆あまねりお (Non-Touhou; Original)]]<br />
*[[R! T! S!|R!T!S!]]<br />
*[[東方サマーフタリ]]<br />
*[[からふるすまいる (Non-Touhou; Original)]]<br />
*[[drizzly again]]<br />
*[[ROOTS]] (by Adrena Gizyuku)<br />
*[[サトリ サトラレ]] (by Adrena Gizyuku)<br />
*[[榴散符 〜Shrapnel Cards〜]] (by Adrena Gizyuku)<br />
*[[東方SOP]] (by Adrena Gizyuku)<br />
<br />
===Coolier (クーリエ)===<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[ゆかりん突発CD]]<br />
*[[戦国幻想曲]]<br />
<br />
===[[Crazy Voltage]]===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[Drawing the Spell (Preview Disk)]]<br />
*[[Fragments of Books]]<br />
*[[Drawing the Spell]]<br />
*[[Promise Her the Moon]]<br />
*[[Drawing the Spell Ⅱ]]<br />
*[[Drawing the Spell Ⅲ]]<br />
*[[Wonderland After Dark]]<br />
*[[Drawing the Spell Ⅳ]]<br />
*[[Break My Curse]]<br />
<br />
===Creative Union===<br />
*[[Invitation]]<br />
<br />
=== Creatronic ===<br />
<br />
*[[東方七角星]]<br />
<br />
=== [[Crest]] ===<br />
*[[流月抄 ~ Moon over Mind]]<br />
*[[茜眩帷-SENGENI-]]<br />
<br />
===Crimson Moon===<br />
*[[Ready To Die!]]<br />
*[[Lunatic Star "Chaos"]]<br />
*[[How Much Is Your Life?]]<br />
*[[自重禁止。]]<br />
*[[Gensou Diary]]<br />
*[[ちゅっちゅ畑でつかまえて ~Kiss Me! Hug Me!!~]]<br />
*[[Endless Phantasmagoria]]<br />
*[[Undefined Darkness]]<br />
<br />
===Croak Not Rue===<br />
*[[赤い霧ばらまくとかマジありえねぇよこのビッチ]]<br />
*[[生えぬ毛などあんまし無い!]]<br />
*[[白玉楼はEscでお願いします。]]<br />
*[[おまえの○○ちっちぇえな]]<br />
<br />
===CrossGear===<br />
*[[Philter's Magic]]<br />
*[[Fairy Feel]]<br />
*[[東方遊宴祭]]<br />
*[[東方疾奏曲]]<br />
*[[東方コンピ!]]<br />
*[[Clelia]]<br />
*[[東方酔恋歌]]<br />
*[[Restrict Play]]<br />
<br />
===Cross Current===<br />
*[[MIRROR]]<br />
<br />
===[[CROW'SCLAW]]===<br />
*[[Frozen Frog]]<br />
*[[Crossfire Barrage]]<br />
*[[Brutal Games for Reminding of Death]]<br />
*[[Over The Rainbow]]<br />
*[[From The Bottom Of The Heart]]<br />
<br />
===CTBR===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[T ~東方夢想曲~]]<br />
*[[THE 俺 ~SIMPLE1000~]]<br />
*[[The best compilation]]<br />
*[[Sacred Treasure]]<br />
*[[Synth Sound Symphony]]<br />
*[[Choice×Choice×Choice]]<br />
*[[Original Intention]]<br />
*[[LOVE]]<br />
*[[Become Happy!!]]<br />
*[[僕は東方を「いい、見てる。」]]<br />
*[[飛翔旋律]]<br />
<br />
===[[CYTOKINE]]===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[THE OUTSIDE]]<br />
*[[A SATELLITE IN THE 2ND OUTER SPACE]]<br />
*[[Third-Rater]]<br />
*[[PRISMA]]<br />
*[[Virtual x Real]]<br />
*[[Cubical another perspective has violated systematically]]<br />
*[[虹蛇]]<br />
*[[hatch the new Flow]]<br />
*[[⑨ -maruQ-]]<br />
*[[FLASHBACK to ...]]<br />
*[[±]]<br />
*[[REINE OKTAVE]]<br />
*[[hatch the new Fl∞w]]<br />
*[[A+jugos]]<br />
*[[bifurcation]]<br />
*[[492357816]]<br />
*[[The TOWER]]<br />
*[[Voice blinded color]]<br />
*[[DEMO DISK-1]]<br />
*[[Dead Man's Hand]]<br />
*[[1⑨ –イチマルキュウ–]]<br />
<section end=C /><br />
<section begin=D /><br />
<br />
== D ==<br />
<br />
===D'va;;;;;;;;4===<br />
*[[candybug]]<br />
*[[アムリタ]]<br />
<br />
===Dandelion Trio===<br />
*[[東方祀花謠 ~Les Illusions des Cent Fleurs.]]<br />
*[[東方幻夢譚~Les re^ves de livres dans la nuit noire.]]<br />
<br />
===Dan Dan Gumi ([[だんだん組]])===<br />
*[[紅美鈴と魔女の卵]]<br />
*[[ケロちゃん川流れ]]<br />
*[[東方落語魔理沙出世だぜ!]]<br />
*[[グリモワールオブアリス (だんだん組)|グリモワールオブアリス]]<br />
*[[優曇華院のある風景]]<br />
*[[怪傑!射命丸]]<br />
*[[東方教会旋法 - Ostliche Kirchenform -]]<br />
<br />
===Dangerous Mezashi Cat===<br />
*[[Memento mori]]<br />
<br />
===danmaq===<br />
<br />
*[[Leila Prismriver]]<br />
*[[danmaq soundtrack]]<br />
<br />
===[[Dark PHOENiX]]===<br />
*[[Arrow Rain]]<br />
*[[Arrow Revolver]]<br />
*[[Arrow Revolution]]<br />
*[[ShotShell I]]<br />
*[[ShotShell II]]<br />
*[[ShotShell III]]<br />
*[[Arrow Realize]]<br />
*[[Flowers for Patchouli]]<br />
*[[Sound-0 Phase-10]]<br />
*[[Sound-0 Phase-11]]<br />
*[[Witch Clock]]<br />
*[[Sound-0 Phase-12]]<br />
<br />
===dBu music ([[Dobu Usagi]])===<br />
<br />
<br />
The four albums from the 弾奏結界 (Symphony from The Sanctuary) arrange CD series:<br />
<br />
# [[紅魔狂詩曲 Scarlet Rapsodia]]<br />
# [[幻葬旋律曲 Necromanza]]<br />
# [[夢幻夜想曲 Eternal Nocturne]]<br />
# [[追憶鎮魂曲 Nostalgic Requiem]]<br />
<br />
*深弾奏結界 [[散華嬉遊曲 Flower Divertimento]]<br />
*文弾奏結界 [[文花風師曲 Arietta Incalzando]]<br />
*[[iCE MiLK TEi]]<br />
*[[2面に進めませんっ!!]]<br />
*[[阿礼の子供は夜の鳩山を飛ぶ日本の伝説(仮)]]<br />
*絶弾奏結界 [[兎角宴舞曲 Courante Impromptu]]<br />
*風弾奏結界 [[神交風雅曲 Oratario del Vento]]<br />
*廃弾奏結界 [[鬼譚奏鳴曲 Demon Tale Sonata]]<br />
*星弾奏結界 [[天空航進曲 March over sky]]<br />
*蓮弾奏結界 [[白夜小夜曲 Serenade at midnight sun]]<br />
*[[RoYAL MiLK TEi]]<br />
*氷弾奏結界 [[妖精戦奏曲 Scherzo of Fairy Wars]]<br />
*蘇弾奏結界 [[尸解変奏曲 Undead Variation]]<br />
<br />
===DDBY===<br />
*[[8BiTouhou]]<br />
*[[8BiTouhou 2]]<br />
*[[東方幻想曲]]<br />
*[[8BiTouhou 3]]<br />
*[[Touhou Synthesis]]<br />
*[[Touhou Synthesis 2]]<br />
*[[Touhou Synthesis 3]]<br />
*[[紅マジック]]<br />
*[[Touhou Synthesis 4]]<br />
*[[Highway]]<br />
*[[Touhou Synthesis 5]]<br />
*[[とうほうふゆまつり]]<br />
*[[Taz]]<br />
*[[Touhou UnderGround]]<br />
*[[Highway 2]]<br />
*[[秘封物語]]<br />
*[[InsTouhou]]<br />
*[[秘封物語2]]<br />
*[[Cafe de Touhou]]<br />
*[[Cafe de Touhou 2]]<br />
*[[Cafe de Touhou 3]]<br />
<br />
===Dear,friends===<br />
<br />
*[[2005:D,M0 - Dear,Music vol.00 -]]<br />
*[[東方夜詠月 - Dear,Music Another side -(プレ版)]]<br />
*[[D,M2-Dear, Music vol.02-]]<br />
<br />
===Delights music===<br />
<br />
*[[Linkup remix side trance & progressive vol.1]]<br />
<br />
===[[Demetori]]===<br />
<br />
*[[Shout at The Devil]]<br />
*[[如臨深遠 ~雨縒煙柳~]]<br />
*[[彼岸花葬 ~the view of spiral riverside~]] (collaboration CD with [[#UI-70|UI-70]])<br />
*[[Il Mondo dove e finito il Tempo]]<br />
*[[闡提宗祀 ~ Offering to The Sukhavati]]<br />
*[[曼衍珠汝華 ~ Nada Upasana Pundarika]]<br />
<br />
===[[Denkai Lab]] (電開製作所)===<br />
*[[東方難波街道]]<br />
*[[東方ASSOCIATION]] (Collaboration with [[#いえろ~ぜぶら(YELLOW ZEBRA)|YELLOW ZEBRA]])<br />
*[[恋艶 THE NIGHT CLUB]]<br />
<br />
===Denshi Hotaru (でんしほたる)===<br />
*[[東方螢温泉]]<br />
*[[東方熊人形]]<br />
*[[東方鼠王国]]<br />
<br />
===device: one===<br />
*[[paraout#1]]<br />
<br />
===DESTRUCTIVE ANGEL (formerly っ´Д`)っゼロ式の家)===<br />
*[[とうほうテクニック]]<br />
*[[東方ハードロック Visual croos ~叫気の愛に抱かれた者達~]]<br />
*[[トゥホゥの奇妙な冒険]]<br />
*[[恋する乙女のどろわ~ず☆ミ]]<br />
*[[Eternal Force Blizzard]]<br />
*[[Crazy Trancy Ecstasy]]<br />
*[[Extreme Genocide Force]]<br />
*[[幻想郷がもっと俺に輝けと囁いている]]<br />
<br />
===DeZI:R===<br />
*[[音速殴-ONSOKU PUNCH-DX EDITION]]<br />
*[[桜雪 ~Snow Blossom~]]<br />
<br />
===Digitalic Party===<br />
*[[After "F" Toho Arrange Collection -Disc "before"-]]<br />
*[[After "F" Toho Arrange Collection]]<br />
*[[blissout]]<br />
*[[Clamshell Relation]]<br />
*[[Digitalic -L+R- Party ~Latest+Revival~]]<br />
<br />
===DIHALMENT===<br />
*[[酒郷・慧音詩]]<br />
<br />
===Dimension's Gate===<br />
*[[Magical Forest]]<br />
*[[FANTASY OF FANTASY]]<br />
*[[Solitary Doll]]<br />
<br />
===Disaster===<br />
*[[Sephiroth]]<br />
*[[Touhou Unreal Mahjong OST]]<br />
<br />
===[[Disfact]]===<br />
*[[天狗祭囃子]]<br />
*[[Sound Of Rogue's Allure]]<br />
<br />
===Discord Registers===<br />
*[[Find Her Match]]<br />
*[[FOGGY NIGHT]]<br />
*[[Hi! NEW SCAPE]]<br />
<br />
===Distorted Music===<br />
*[[TERRIBLE SOUND]]<br />
*[[GENSOKYO'S NIGHT FRENZY]]<br />
*[[ALIENATION]]<br />
*[[Heartfelt Pain]]<br />
<br />
===Diverse System===<br />
*[[anima I 東方]]<br />
*[[thE]]<br />
*[[anima II 東方]]<br />
*[[thE2]]<br />
*[[thE2.5]]<br />
<br />
===Dixas (妖幻楽団)===<br />
<br />
*[[妖幻楽集 お試し盤+α]]<br />
<br />
===DMC===<br />
*[[MEMENTO MORI]]<br />
<br />
===Dobu no Futa (どぶのふた)===<br />
*[[音撃斬雷電激震]]<br />
*[[クランベリー・ファック]]<br />
*[[猫泥棒]]<br />
*[[渡る世間は鬼ばかり]]<br />
<br />
===Dokugiri (毒霧)===<br />
*[[魘]]<br />
<br />
===DoKuRo-Bose===<br />
*[[東方ぼうず]]<br />
<br />
===DragonTree MusicTroops===<br />
*[[とらべるちゃんす!]]<br />
*[[幻想急行星蓮線]]<br />
<br />
===Draw the Emotional===<br />
<br />
*[[Collapse of the Sky]]<br />
*[[Funny party in the Fog]]<br />
<br />
===Dread-Note===<br />
*[[Rock'N roll Junkies]]<br />
<br />
===Dreamcolor Project (ゆめいろ企画)===<br />
*[[Midnight Tea Party]]<br />
*[[Cherry Petals Fantasia]]<br />
*[[Endless Fairy Tale]]<br />
*[[Lycoris Radiata]]<br />
*[[Blue Vault of Heaven]]<br />
*[[Miracle Fruit]]<br />
<br />
===Dreamcolor Utopia (夢色ゆーとぴあ)===<br />
*[[東方幻想盤]]<br />
<br />
=== DRIFT ORBIT ===<br />
<br />
*[[無料頒布]]<br />
<br />
===Driving kitchen===<br />
*[[東方熱帯夜]]<br />
*[[東方冬将軍]]<br />
*[[東方切裂魔]]<br />
*[[Doomsday Clock demo]]<br />
*[[スタイリッシュ!!]]<br />
<br />
===Dropの小屋。===<br />
*[[東方ろりぽっぷ]]<br />
*[[東方バロック紀行]]<br />
*[[東方幻想奇談 ~闇色硝子~]]<br />
<br />
===DSdA -Die Symphonie des AZURES-===<br />
*[[TOHO TECH SYMPHONIA]]<br />
<br />
===Dust_Box_49===<br />
*[[Alternative]]<br />
*[[Photograph of Phantasmagoria]] (collaboration with N-tone)<br />
*[[Faith of Format]] (collaboration with N-tone)<br />
*[[ハルノユメ]]<br />
*[[Dungeon&Danger]] (collaboration with N-tone)<br />
*[[TONE BOX]]<br />
<br />
===Dxtliant Child===<br />
*[[Utopia Far East]]<br />
*[[The Hagoromo of the sky]]<br />
<section end=D /><br />
<section begin=E /><br />
<br />
== E ==<br />
<br />
===E-MP===<br />
*[[東方ちゃんぷるー]]<br />
*[[東方ちゃんぷるー2]]<br />
<br />
===E.B.S.0/1===<br />
*[[The force of ruination]]<br />
*[[Frontal Frontier]]<br />
<br />
===Earlgray (アールグレイ)===<br />
*[[想い風 ~the ties between dream and wind~]]<br />
*[[天の海 ~Could there nearby be you by you?~]]<br />
*[[唄う星 ~The earth that the pupil watches~]]<br />
*[[河城にとりのDOKIDOKIディスク]]<br />
*[[古明地こいしのDOKIDOKIディスク]]<br />
*[[風の詩歌]]<br />
*[[アリ恋]]<br />
*[[覚恋慕]]<br />
*[[四季映姫と小野塚小町のDOKIDOKIダブル添い寝裁判]]<br />
<br />
===earth Japan SOFT===<br />
<br />
*[[eJ Game Collection 3]]<br />
<br />
===[[EastNewSound]]===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[000]]<br />
*[[Lyrical Crimson]]<br />
*[[Scattered Destiny]]<br />
*[[Lyrical Crimson the instrumental]]<br />
*[[Lucent Wish]]<br />
*[[Lucent Wish the instrumental]]<br />
*[[Sacred Factor]]<br />
*[[Sacred Factor the instrumental]]<br />
*[[EastNewSoundBest vol.1]]<br />
*[[Felsic Mirage]]<br />
*[[Felsic Mirage the instrumental]]<br />
*[[Split Theory]]<br />
*[[Split Theory the instrumental]]<br />
*[[Definite Energy]]<br />
*[[Solitude Blossom]]<br />
*[[Solitude Blossom the instrumental]]<br />
*[[Dione Aggregation]]<br />
*[[Uncanny Instinct]] (Original)<br />
<br />
===EcN===<br />
*[[TOHO SKA PARADISE ORCHESTRA]]<br />
*[[FULL-TENSION SHOOTERS]]<br />
*[[コミックマーケット76限定無料配布ディスク]]<br />
<br />
===[[efs]]===<br />
*[[Lunatic Gate]]<br />
*[[Chaotic Beat]]<br />
*[[Mystic Heart]]<br />
*[[夜桜幻想郷]]<br />
*[[Atomic Heat]]<br />
*[[Last Notes]]<br />
*[[楽園-eden-]]<br />
*[[Re:Birth]]<br />
<br />
===ego☆trip===<br />
*[[KALEIDOSCAPE]]<br />
<br />
===Eight-Million===<br />
*[[AMATERASU Mythology]]<br />
*[[FOLLOW THE LIGHT]]<br />
*[[incomprehensible]]<br />
*[[wafture]]<br />
*[[Quiet Clamor]]<br />
*[[FUTURE SCATTER]]<br />
<br />
===Einherjar Records===<br />
*[[Prologue]]<br />
*[[Ex.]]<br />
<br />
===El Dorado===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[Near Death HEAVEN]]<br />
*[[Nightmare Nights]]<br />
*[[Advanced ALPHA]]<br />
*[[Silent Spirit]]<br />
*[[Stormy Spirit]]<br />
*[[Solaris Lues]]<br />
*[[Desire ]]<br />
*[[El Dorado おまけCD]]<br />
*[[墨染]]<br />
*[[アンモラルブーケ]]<br />
*[[Infinity (El Dorado)|Infinity]]<br />
*[[Ruthless Fear]]<br />
*[[妄執と堕落のピグマリオニズム]]<br />
<br />
===ELECTRIC RED===<br />
*[[RED HAZARD DEMO]]<br />
*[[Subterranean Sun]]<br />
*[[RED RECOLLECTION]]<br />
*[[大空魔術~Magical Astronomy-EP-]]<br />
*[[LUST REMOTE/THE SPIRITUAL EYE]]<br />
<br />
===Elemental note===<br />
*[[東方幻夢音]]<br />
*[[Gothic style of Touhou]]<br />
*[[月夜桜 -Night View of Touhou-]]<br />
*[[秋音風 -Autumn of Touhou-]]<br />
*[[永縁花 -The Eternal of Touhou-]]<br />
<br />
===Elemental Records===<br />
*[[Strange Wind]]<br />
*[[Abyss]]<br />
*[[Sound Spectrum]]<br />
*[[CHALLENGE]]<br />
*[[奏 ~KANADE~]]<br />
<br />
===emotional music===<br />
*[[東方即興曲集 ~Master of record~]]<br />
<br />
===emroots===<br />
<br />
*[[reflection]]<br />
<br />
===En-flan===<br />
*[[桜下之抄]]<br />
<br />
===ENDLESS SKY===<br />
<br />
*[[Schreckenschuß]]<br />
<br />
===Engage Blue===<br />
*[[東方叫瞑毒 ~ afterbirth ignorant sculpture]]<br />
<br />
===Ennui Girl’s Talk===<br />
<br />
*[[Seeker of Phantasma]]<br />
<br />
===Epock-Making===<br />
*[[e.p.]]<br />
*[[EPOCK-MAKING 1]]<br />
<br />
===eS=S===<br />
<br />
<br />
:See: [[List_by_Groups#TRiANCE_CODE_.28formerly_eS.3DS.29|TRiANCE CODE]]<br />
<br />
===Eternal Music===<br />
<br />
*[[individual]]<br />
<br />
===Eternal17===<br />
*[[Synchronicity]]<br />
<br />
===Everfades===<br />
<br />
*[[Reverie]]<br />
<br />
===Evergrace===<br />
*[[Symmetry]]<br />
*[[東方紅魔郷アルバムぷれびゅーでぃすく]]<br />
*[[緋色の郷愁]]<br />
*[[Mirror Gate]]<br />
<br />
=== Ezel-Ash (E館) ===<br />
*[[幻想鏡らびリンス]]<br />
<section end=E /><br />
<section begin=F /><br />
<br />
== F ==<br />
<br />
===Factory Noise & AG (有限会社ファクトリー・ノイズ&AG)===<br />
*[[BorderLine]]<br />
*[[WindAge]]<br />
*[[Time Limit ~Eternity~]]<br />
*[[Time Limit ~Momentary~]]<br />
<br />
===Fall village===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[東方 DE しりとり]]<br />
<br />
===False&Trues===<br />
*[[technological]] (Collaboration with [[#いえろ~ぜぶら(YELLOW ZEBRA)|Yellow Zebra]])<br />
*[[technological SPECIAL DISC (Karaoke disc of technological given out exclusively at the event)]]<br />
*[[techmatrix]]<br />
*[[東方TRITONATION]]<br />
<br />
===Fantasticlight Music===<br />
*[[東方夢幻街道]]<br />
<br />
===Far in the distance -4 EVER-===<br />
*[[Are you NUTS!?!]]<br />
<br />
===FELT===<br />
*[[Milky Wink]]<br />
*[[Fairy Queen]]<br />
*[[Flower Flag]]<br />
<br />
===FENNEL SEED===<br />
*[[FENNEL SEED ~想いし神~]]<br />
<br />
===Feuille===<br />
*[[瑠璃子]]<br />
<br />
===firephlex productions===<br />
*[[東方解酒樽斗]]<br />
*[[第七回博麗神社例大祭限定CD]]<br />
*[[東方溢桜蕾EX]]<br />
<br />
===Firinity Factory (formerly COHCOA PROJECT)===<br />
<br />
*[[東方序章記-Toho the First-]]<br />
*[[東方混戦紀-Toho the CHAΩS-]]<br />
*[[東方与楽園]]<br />
*[[リトルスタート!!]]<br />
*[[track is alive]]<br />
<br />
===Five-seveN===<br />
*[[Underground Experimental ReMix Soundtrack]]<br />
<br />
===flap+frog===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[葉椿]]<br />
*[[葉椿/花椿]]<br />
*[[sasanqua e.p.]]<br />
*[[confeit e.p.]]<br />
*[[dominoes e.p.]]<br />
*[[stereophonic wonder]]<br />
*[[stereophonic voyager]]<br />
*[[stereophonic discover]]<br />
<br />
===FLAT fish φんだあ===<br />
<br />
*[[おん ぱっきゃまらーど(試作版)]]<br />
*[[おん ぱっきゃまらーど ver1.03]]<br />
<br />
===Flip Air Sound===<br />
*[[My orrery, Your orrery]]<br />
<br />
===Floating Cloud===<br />
*[[Touhou Irish]] ({{lang|ja|東方アイリッシュ}})<br />
*[[Flower Village]]<br />
*[[Carnival]]<br />
<br />
===Floor6===<br />
*[[紅魔恍惚]]<br />
*[[妖音碧玉]]<br />
*[[Toho Synthesized]]<br />
<br />
===Floresta Prateada===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[東方泡影吟]]<br />
*[[Refondi da Babela turo]]<br />
*[[星月夜 ~The starry night~]]<br />
*[[fragments of evolved]]<br />
*[[私の虚しい物語]]<br />
<br />
===Fluid Stance===<br />
*[[LUNATIC EASTRONICA]]<br />
*[[Isolated Times]]<br />
<br />
===FMPSG===<br />
*[[FMPSG003 -The Chiptune Memories-]]<br />
*[[FMPSG009 -Remember the chiptune-]]<br />
*[[FMPSG012 -Burning Stone-]]<br />
<br />
===Foggy Roots===<br />
<br />
*[[東方夜蕾草]]<br />
*[[東方空走展]]<br />
*[[東方符札調]]<br />
*[[東方刻々滔(不完全版)]]<br />
*[[東方刻々滔-彩-]]<br />
<br />
===FORCE FIELD===<br />
*[[東方真奏曲 壱 ~Theme of Reimu]]<br />
<br />
===Foreground Eclipse===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[Foreground Eclipse Demo CD Vol.01]]<br />
*[[Missing, Loving... and Suffering EP]]<br />
*[[Foreground Eclipse Demo CD Vol.02]]<br />
*[[Foreground Eclipse Demo CD Vol.03]]<br />
*[[Wishes Hidden In The Foreground Noises]]<br />
*[[Foreground Eclipse Demo CD Vol.04]]<br />
*[[Foreground Eclipse Demo CD Vol.05]]<br />
*[[Tears Will Become Melodies Tonight]]<br />
*[[Foreground Eclipse Demo CD Vol.06]]<br />
<br />
===Forest306===<br />
*[[東方阿漕集]]<br />
*[[東方阿漕宴]]<br />
*[[ハルノカゼ]]<br />
*[[星屑の還る場所 "Artificial StarDust "]]<br />
*[[Moonlit Passage]]<br />
*[[東方阿漕祭]]<br />
*[[夢視京]]<br />
*[[Eryngiusis]]<br />
<br />
===forestpireo (ふぉれすとぴれお)===<br />
*[[東方夢三月]]<br />
*[[東方妹奏曲]]<br />
*[[T★GIRLS.01]]<br />
*[[RED ME?]]<br />
*[[東方流星曲]]<br />
*[[Shooting Summer]]<br />
*[[T★GIRLS.02]]<br />
*[[Girl Revolution]]<br />
*[[SPRING★]]<br />
*[[Colorful Magic]]<br />
*[[Melody Memories]]<br />
*[[Memory Box]]<br />
*[[Party Poche]]<br />
<br />
===FOX RAVEL===<br />
*[[Pleach Any Deary]]<br />
*[[TOHO DESTRUCTION!!]]<br />
*[[Magic Magical Night]]<br />
*[[UNEXPECTED FIGHT]]<br />
*[[Break Back Another]]<br />
<br />
===Foxtail-Grass Studio===<br />
*[[pastoral landscape]]<br />
*[[Lupinus 幻想写景 -風-]]<br />
*[[Remember*C -spring-]]<br />
*[[nocturnal landscape]]<br />
<br />
===Fragile Online===<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[東方と戦慄(初回版)]]<br />
*[[東方と戦慄]]<br />
*[[冥土行進曲]]<br />
*[[ブルース恋娘]]<br />
*[[百鬼夜行]]<br />
*[[だってしょうがないじゃない]]<br />
*[[FRAGILE ONLINE BEST ALBUM VOL.1 東方シリーズ編]] (''Vol.2, RETRO-GAME, is not Touhou-specific'')<br />
*[[絶対弾幕革命前夜]]<br />
*[[絶対弾幕革命前夜2]]<br />
*[[絶対弾幕革命前夜1-2-3]]<br />
*[[東方チップチューン地獄]]<br />
*[[荒御霊 VS. FRAGILE ONLINE -BREAKCORE DJ BATTLE-]]<br />
*[[星蓮船バンド]]<br />
*[[AbbeyRoad]]<br />
*[[真・東方チップチューン地獄 -射命丸地獄変-]]<br />
*[[百鬼夜行 序]]<br />
*[[百鬼夜行 破]]<br />
*[[百鬼夜行 急]]<br />
<br />
===Francois' Yomogi Farm [[フランソワさんのよもぎ畑]]===<br />
*[[矩形波幻奏]]<br />
*[[矩形波文箱]]<br />
*[[矩形波文箱 -花月夜-]]<br />
*[[矩形波幻聴]]<br />
*[[FamiMari]]<br />
*[[にとりーず・でぃっしゅ]]<br />
*[[矩形波礼讃]]<br />
*[[宇部蓬幻奏倶楽部]]<br />
*[[東方チップチューン地獄]]<br />
*[[矩形波迷奏]]<br />
*[[恋色マリサスパーク]]<br />
*[[とびくらロマンス]]<br />
<br />
===free-logic===<br />
*[[First-Logic]]<br />
*[[Second-Logic]]<br />
*[[ミクと楽器と幽霊幼女]]<br />
<br />
===fromadistance===<br />
*[[eureka]]<br />
*[[historie]]<br />
<br />
=== Frontier Create ===<br />
<br />
*[[ウルトラ☆テング]]<br />
<br />
===[[Frontier Records]]===<br />
*[[frontier]]<br />
*[[雪月華|{{lang|ja|雪月華}}]]<br />
*[[Wind]]<br />
*[[TRINITY -Orchestra Side-]]<br />
*[[TRINITY -Metal Side-]]<br />
*[[TRINITY -Trance Side-]]<br />
*[[Happiness ~少女は幻想で恋を唄う~|Happiness {{lang|ja|~少女は幻想で恋を唄う~}}]]<br />
*[[DAWN STAR]]<br />
*[[Forever]]<br />
*[[ウルトラ☆テング|{{lang|ja|ウルトラ}}☆{{lang|ja|テング}}]]<br />
*[[東方白梅娘 -TOUHOU BAINEINYAN|{{lang|ja|東方白梅娘}} -TOUHOU BAINEINYAN]]<br />
<br />
===Frozen System Records===<br />
*[[lunar eclipse]]<br />
*[[ホウキボシ]]<br />
*[[運命の境界線]]<br />
*[[Black Impulse]]<br />
<br />
===Fuchinobe Andromeda (淵野辺アンドロメダ)===<br />
*[[urinalysis]]<br />
<br />
===Fukyouwaon (布教我音)===<br />
*[[AURORA]]<br />
<br />
===FullMooN.13 (フルムーン) ===<br />
<br />
*[[Oriental FullMooN]]<br />
*[[Help!!]]<br />
<br />
===Futon===<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
*[[brisa preta]]<br />
*[[Go West]]<br />
*[[West End Girls]]<br />
<section end=F /><br />
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[[Category:Doujin Circle/Arrange| ]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Mononoke_Shibai&diff=265749Mononoke Shibai2012-06-17T19:58:49Z<p>Tsukihime: Created page with "{{MusicArticle | titlejp =物ノ怪芝居 | titlejprom =Mononoke Shibai | titleen = | group =Aoba Seisakusho | groupCat =Aoba Seisakusho | image =s..."</p>
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*01. '''{{lang|ja|人と鳥の物語}}''' ''(5:44)''<br />
*02. '''{{lang|ja|天に月、地に華を}}''' ''(5:19)''<br />
*03. '''{{lang|ja|炉心暴蝕核融合}}''' ''(4:14)''<br />
*04. '''{{lang|ja|星空の河童}}''' ''(5:40)''<br />
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[[Category:Unfinished/MusicArticles]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&diff=256472MediaWiki:Sitenotice2012-04-12T18:00:46Z<p>Tsukihime: grammar</p>
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<div><span style="color: #0000ff; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">The [http://www.facebook.com/TouhouWiki Touhouwiki Facebook Fanpage] is online, everyone is invited to join the facebook community.</span></div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=241488Talk:Touhou Wiki2012-01-18T22:35:53Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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==Talks by major topics==<br />
===Workspace===<br />
*[[Touhou Wiki: Frontpage modifications|Frontpage mods]] - any proposed changes to frontpage can be made here<br />
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===Discussions===<br />
*[[/Subpage structure|Subpage structure]]<br />
*[[/Date standards|Date standards]]<br />
*[[/Revamp Arrange Music|Revamp Arrange Music]]<br />
*[[/Lyric Re-design|Lyric Re-design]]<br />
*[[/Editor Corner|Editor's Corner]]<br />
*[[/Circle Pages|Circle Pages]]<br />
*[[/Mainpage|Mainpage]]<br />
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==Twitter==<br />
I almost hate to say it, but it's a useful medium and resource that we aren't exploiting and is an(other) advantage we have over that other wiki. http://twitter.com/touhouwiki is being attributed to us, but isn't being used at all right now. Does no one have any idea who owns it? I've found I quite like Twitter and would be totally willing to put in the work if we can get it. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 16:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see they have a Twitter. And a Facebook. [http://www.facebook.com/pages/Touhou-Wiki/181196018574656 Which I guess we also have], but again aren't using. That's one thing they're doing better, and that sucks. Of course, this is just coincidental. My decision to bring this up has to do with other things we can do and what's best for us. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 16:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::You mean what am I doing on twitter such as [https://twitter.com/#!/KyoriAsh/status/145955017273262080 this], [https://twitter.com/#!/KyoriAsh/status/145955037217161216 this], [https://twitter.com/#!/KyoriAsh/status/145955070905815040 this] and [https://twitter.com/#!/KyoriAsh/status/145955562465673216 this]? Meanwhile, our arch rival wiki already have a good start with [http://twitter.com/THPWiki twitter], however we don't. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 17:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm new to it all, so I wasn't aware, so don't think it's not appreciated. Acquiring and using that TouhouWiki Twitter as a hub would go a long way, though. And there's no time like the present to try and make a dent. I don't know about daily songs and junk like they're doing, since who has the time for that, but we could at least make announcements and direct everyone toward articles here, much like you're already doing. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 17:28, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I can do this. Do any of you know of a good desktop client that allows you to use multiple (4+) accounts at once ? [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 18:07, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Try [http://mashable.com/2009/06/27/twitter-desktop-apps/ here] or [http://mashable.com/2009/05/18/twitter-apps-manage-multiple-accounts/ here] or [http://www.squidoo.com/twitterapps here]. I can't say I know anything about them. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 22:03, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
: So has anything been done yet? --[[User:Coyc|Coyc]] 12:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Very long News section==<br />
Lately, the News section has been gradually getting bigger and bigger. Now it's pretty ridiculous. The problem though is that it pushes the other important index links (Encyclopedia, Other Articles, Articles Needing Attention) further down the page hurting front page functionality. Something needs to be done to shorten the News section on the front page.<br />
Some possible solutions have been suggested.<br />
:1. Keep a short list on the front page, "Show more" goes to a different page with all the links.<br />
:2. Expandable "Show/Hide" on front page.<br />
:3. Trim non-important items completely.<br />
Options 1 and 2 will keep all news items but will require additional coding to be done to support it. Option 3 requires none, but will affect the quality of the news section. How should be contract the News section? [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 03:48, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I like the Show/Hide idea best. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 03:51, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Out of these three options, I prefer option 1 (with option 2 as the next best alternative). [[User:IbarakiIbuki|Ibaraki Ibuki]] 04:47, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Show/Hide has been implemented; criteria being date. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 17:13, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Mediawiki 1.18==<br />
Lately, Wikipedia suffered from [http://leuksman.com/log/2011/09/23/automatic-photo-orientation-in-mediawiki-1-18/ this problem], so might well as we stay at 1.17? However, FR wiki already updated to 1.18 and may suffered the same problem as well - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 06:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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So we'll bide our time until they get that addressed, hmm?<br />
<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 18:10, 28 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Reference Desk==<br />
[[Touhou Wiki:Reference Desk]]<br />
<br />
This is getting nuked because of the current policy of you must register to edit.<br />
<br />
However, I bring up that allowing the anons who do not wish to to have the privilege to just edit that page and nothing else to allow this as an option.<br />
<br />
Worst case is that one page it zapped with stuff and we take it down.<br />
<br />
Best case it is a useful reservoir and we give the anons a voice.<br />
<br />
You decide.<br />
<br />
Update: Here is why we '''need''' this<br />
<br />
*The argument could be made that an infestation of attacks could be made if we allow this. However, the stipulation are that they only have the rights and privileges to edit that single page. Thus is is easily contained should something happen. <br />
<br />
*This may also have these anons register in the future as they would like to be part of what happens.<br />
<br />
*This shows we support and value the opinions of the anon and makes our wiki more attractive<br />
<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 20:15, 2 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: What does mandatory registration have to do with whether to keep the Reference Desk? It wasn't just anons posting questions there. --[[User:Winane|Winane]] 09:51, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Well yes, it has been moved to the [[Talk:Touhou Wiki/Editor Corner|Editor Corner's page]] for editor's that have questions.<br />
I want to salvage this one (Reference Desk) for the anons to post, as this seems more fitting for it<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:49, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Theories Section ==<br />
<br />
(I posted this here cause it won't just be aimed at the characters pages). Anyway, due to Sakuya's page, as well as Maribel's page, I thought we should create a "Theories" section on some pages, and as to my taste, it doesn't really fit well under the Fandom section with large paragraphs bulleted. As for examples, I've made an edit on [[User:Nazeo/Standardization of Character Pages|Nazeo's standardization page]] to show the layout as well as setting it out on my [[User:Tony64/Sandbox|sandbox]] on how it would look on the pages. As for a main summary, [[User:Tony64/Template:Theories Summary|this]] will be used, similar to [[Template:Bougetsushou]]. Would it be OK to implement this? {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 19:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Also, I still need to write some sort of guideline to this to stop users from adding unwanted theories. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 19:31, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Perhaps the guideline is that the theories should have a degree of significance '''in relation to the character'''. Right now, I actually cannot think of any character that would actually have any theories of great significance except for Sakuya, Maribel, and (only maybe) Alice. Any others should be heavily scrutinized. In other words, I think that the best guideline is that for now, this section can be okay only for Sakuya, Maribel, and Alice's pages unless a very good reason comes up for some other character.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 19:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::Maybe theories sections should only be allowed for characters where ZUN specifically indicated there's an actual secret of significance to be found. Mainly Sakuya (Where ZUN has explicitly stated she DOES have a background, etc. He just isn't telling anyone what it is, and has stated that whole "Eirin is surprised" and "more can be uncovered in Cage in Lunatic Runagate" (or whatever he said in that interview where he said it)) and Maribel (Where ZUN has explicitly responded to a question about her relationship with Yukari, but left it at it having something to do with Lafcadio Hearn). I'm not sure Alice qualifies because ZUN never explicitly stated there's a secret to be found there. The whole "Alice's background contradicts!" runs under assumptions that just because she was found in Makai, Shinki created her, when ZUN never really stated as such. It also runs under the assumption that the PC-98's finer details should be considered in the Windows series, which again (IMHO at least) is something we really can't assume, given several other possible contradictions (Marisa learning Star Magic after meeting Reimu when the trial version of her boss battle with Reimu in the PC-98 series explicitly states it's their first meeting, and Kurumi being a vampire when Remilia's stated to be the only known vampire to currently exist. Both leave open room for interpretation, as Marisa doesn't state it's their first time meeting in the full official version of the game, nor does Perfect Memento say there were any other vampires in Gensokyo before the only known CURRENT vampire). ....well, it is admittingly a big enough deal with the fandom that maybe it could be included regardless.<br />
::...unless you're referring about a theories section for Alice for Dolls in Pseudo Paradise, I guess. But my huge wall of text theory for that has been shrunken down enough to fit where it currently is without needing a section of its own (although if you want to re-add/revamp all that stuff I wrote about it back to it and make it its own section, that's fine with me). Oh, and I guess maybe one for Remilia regarding the Vampire Incident (although IMHO the fact that EVERY non-SDM character with the exception of "I treat everyone the same" Reimu refers to Remilia exclusively as "The Vampire" should make it a reasonably safe assumption that Remilia is "The Vampire" from "The Vampire" incident). I guess whether or not the Lunarians like Lord Tsukoyumi is the same as the original shinto god might qualify too, if only due to that one being a particularly bizarre case. ~ [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 20:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::<nowiki>*headdesk*</nowiki> And maybe Yukari. ....okay, yea, this is harder than I thought. ~ [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 20:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::::Well, perhaps to talk about the theories regarding Alice's background could perhaps go in between the "trivia" and the "fandom" sections, if there is ever a need to list things out (since it won't grow to the size of Sakuya's "theories"). As is, perhaps the theories section should therefore be only limited to Sakuya and Maribel - nobody else should have one. It is simply a matter that the two are exceptional, which is why the theories need their own section - for the other characters, it can go elsewhere.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 20:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yea, that works well enough. Don't want to overcomplicate things, now that I think about it. ~ [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 22:41, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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And whatever you can not fit on that page goes in [[Contemplations|here]].<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:50, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Like Tosiaki said, it should really be as a subsection under Fandom, but I think that should be the case for everyone. However, pages are already long enough and I'd rather not lengthen them even more with a bunch of needless cruft. Furthermore, there's no reason the underused Contemplations section couldn't be used for such things, including in the case of Sakuya. I say we should write a sentence or two to a paragraph about these theories, and link to a separate page under Contemplations. Characters like Sakuya or Maribel with a whole host of lengthy theories can have their own page, while we have another page for miscellaneous character theories for everyone else. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 14:16, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:For the case of Sakuya and Maribel, though, the theories are very much directly related to the character as ZUN himself has made comments about them, which is why they need to be on the page - not true for any other character. Sakuya and Maribel do not have a "whole host of theories" - they have exactly the theories that are right now on their pages. Of course, even with those theories, there would be a problem with going too much into speculation on the character pages itself, so for the case of Maribel, I have included everything I thought was important to say under "Is there a relation to Yukari?" section - and left everything else under fandom. I think that this amount is the amount that should be included.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 19:32, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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(This isn't going just as ZUNNED... DX). Anyway, the original plan was to keeping it to what ZUN has officially leaked about certain theories that are very well known (which I mean that even ZUN would certainly know), but to just start with keeping to Sakuya and Maribel having this section (Was hoping it to have gone to other non-character pages, but meh). Also, like I said, it doesn't fit well under the Fandom sectio-n, as well as the Additional Information section, since all of it is bulleted and can make the layout look weird compared to other character pages. That's why I suggested it have it's own h2 section. Anyway, I'll start implementing Sakuya's to see if people do agree. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 21:40, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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On the other hand, though, I do think that it would be a good idea to have a sub-section to talk about the six main theories on how Yuyuko might have killed herself (seppuku ritual suicide, stabbing her chest, cutting her throat, drowning, poison, and hanging herself), but it will not go under a "theories" section. I will get to it eventually.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 09:55, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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The reason why I would say that those suicide theories should be included on the character page rather than contemplations is because there is actually substantial official evidence for all six.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 10:02, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:You have official evidence for all six mutually exclusive theories of suicide? Unless they are all true and Yuyuko is Rasputin, you're being terribly inconsistent. If six different users presented six different theories and each of them believes he is right and the others are wrong, edit wars are inevitable regardless of how much official evidence they have to back up their claims. That's why moving these theories (and not just about Yuyuko, but about any character) to the [[Contemplations]] page is a reasonable compromise.<br />
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:And if you do decide to talk about exactly how Yuyuko died (and to my knowledge the answer appears to be "I don't know"), please mention at least some of these theories are just theories. (And put it under a "Theories" section, pretty please?)<br />
:[[User:IbarakiIbuki|Ibaraki Ibuki]] 14:42, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::No, these are not just "theories." As Yuyuko is a bourei it is important to talk about them. They are not "six different users" - these are actually the six with substantial official backing, and it is important to talk about '''what official sources say about her suicide''' and this would be important to include them, but only official sources. But I guess I mis-spoke. Yes, it will be under a "theories" section, along with theories into two other things: 1. her father, and 2. the cherry blossoms of the Sumizome.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 18:22, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::???<br />
:::Can you prove where these official six suicides are??? {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:35, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes, when I get to working on the [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]]'s page. The fact that most people do not know about the six most officially supported suicide methods is verification of the fact that it really does need to be included on Yuyuko's page.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 18:39, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::But in any case, when I earlier stated that only Sakuya and Maribel should have "theories" sections, I completely forgot about Yuyuko's important theories related to her father, the cherry blossoms of the Sumizome, and her suicide method. These are important things to talk about for Yuyuko, so she should have a "theories" section as well.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 18:44, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've heard about these six suicides (poison, seppuku, stabbing her chest, as mentioned in my user page), and some of them seem to have some backing, but I never knew there would be official backing for all six methods! I dunno if you mean that ZUN explicitly said "yeah, all six methods are true" or that Yuyuko's method of death is described differently among different official sources (like [[Silent Sinner in Blue|SSiB]], [[Perfect Memento in Strict Sense|PMiSS]], or ZUN's blog, etc.). If it's the latter case then I guess it won't be a problem to include them (yes it might sound inconsistent but there are indeed some inconsistencies within the world of Touhou Project, such as Mystia being eaten by Yuyuko but appearing again in the next game, so we can give it the benefit of the doubt).<br />
:::::Yes indeed we need to include a section about Yuyuko's death as she is a ghost and a part of Yuyuko that some of her fans are unaware of. I was always wondering why it's only described briefly in the fandom section and not appearing in some of the contemplations page. Hopefully Tosiaki can help out with providing the necessary information here. [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 19:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Touhou Hentai Doujin Works==<br />
Hmm... I wanted to ask this for a long time, is there any chance to allow to create this related game articles? I know this type of game can be problematic... But, as a wiki, this type of information should not be ignored... - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 01:51, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I don't see why not (well, as a wiki of course). Speaking of which Touhou Hanafuda needs its page too. This message from [[User:Deathsoul4|DeltaSierra4]] was delivered on 02:05, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:It seems like it is only that nobody has ever created one before, but that isn't because there is any rule against it - just that nobody has done before. As the purpose of this wiki is to cover anything Touhou-related (both the original and derivative works), it seems like it actually should be covered.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 02:15, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::If done right, (give the NSFW warnings, things like that) I say why not.<br />
::(Hmm, a sample test page would read in big text "Warning, NSFW" and have links that read "Continue" which links to the Hentai page and "Back", which would link back to the Doujin Portal.)<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 02:41, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::Then a draft of Hentai articles rules should be compiled. Let's see, mostly will have story section, gameplay (Visual novel................) and other stuff... - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 03:24, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::I think that pages created just for the purpose of warnings would not really be appropriate for a wiki that is supposed to be documenting information.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 03:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::The user should always be warned about NSFW content. I didn't think I would have to worry about such stuff while browsing this wiki, but if we really are including hentai, we need to tell the user that. [[User:IbarakiIbuki|Ibaraki Ibuki]] 04:12, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::In any case, whatever the form the warning is, should not, of course, be a separate page created for it by itself.<br />
::::Also, although we are not Wikipedia, I think that when it comes to dealing with things like this, we should generally follow what Wikipedia does with censorship, because we are essentially documenting information. Thus, I think it would be best to adopt Wikipedia's [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Censorship|Censorship Policy]].<br />
::::Those who do not want to see images on this site can turn off images while browsing this site.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 04:20, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::Right now, the most risque pictures we have are, to the best of my knowledge, some of (not-so) Innocent Key's album covers. For album covers, we follow Wikipedia's censorship policy. We could warn users of NSFW content, but not through a blank warning page. If linking from another page, putting (NSFW) beside the link ought to work. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 05:27, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
That is what I was suggesting.<br />
You are correct, many NSFW pages are redundant and the only way for users to come across these is prior knowledge. <br />
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A separate option besides Kief's solution to having NSFW warning next to the link is having a redirect including the pages, then it will link to the Section that contains Hentai, (yes, there should redirect to a general page instead of each having their own NSFW redirect page as that gets redundant again.)<br />
I'm not so sure with the acceptance of this option so I'll need others opinions on how to carry such a thing out (if at all)<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:58, 15 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Non-Touhou albums==<br />
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Does this wiki also deal with non-Touhou albums? There are arrange groups that have their Touhou albums posted here but I haven't been able to come across any non-Touhou albums so far. If there is none, is that because we only deal with Touhou arrange albums or simply because nobody has worked with creating pages for them yet? --'''This message from [[User:Deathsoul4|DeltaSierra4]] was delivered on''' 18:51, 14 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I guess that it is because it is only about Touhou. It does seem somewhat a shame, though, that the wider information that still might be of interest would not be covered. Does anyone know of a separate site where such information would be covered?--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 23:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::VGM database might be of your interest then. [http://vgmdb.net/db/main.php here's] the link.<br />
::I brought up this issue since TAMUSIC released a non-Touhou album during the last Comiket along with their Touhou arrange albums. If we've an article covering TAMUSIC's discography, I thought it wouldn't hurt to add their non-Touhou albums as well. --'''This message from [[User:Deathsoul4|DeltaSierra4]] was delivered on''' 23:29, 14 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==SOPA?==<br />
Just read it from [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:SOPA initiative|here]], not sure what will affect us though... - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 18:03, 15 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:It be naive for us to think that this wouldn't affect us; and I must speak out against the misconceptions behind it.<br />
:First off I must say how it does in fact affect us.<br />
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:Misconceptions:<br />
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:*Oh, I don't live in the US, therefore does not affect me/there is nothing I can do<br />
::Umm... sad to say this does affect you as this wiki is hosted in Absecon, <big>'''U.S.A.'''</big> and most of the internet are hosted on USA sites AND U.S.A. has a great control over the internet. And there are things you can do! Just check it out in the second link I posted. <br />
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:*Wait... Isn't this an Anti-Piracy Bill; and isn't Touhou Wiki against piracy?<br />
::Yes, Touhou Wiki frowns sternly at piracy, however, the language of the bill states that even a connection with Piracy will shut down the site without due process. This is similar to the Red Scare, if someone declares us a pirater, we get shut down. We do not even get the chance to take the content down; simply put, we get downed.<br />
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:Oh and this video explains quite simply what SOPA is,everything I explained and more,and how this is detrimental.<br />
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM SOPA Is Bad]<br />
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:...and this can potentially become "The Great Firewall of America"<br />
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:Personally, I want us, Touhou Wiki, to bear the censor symbol (found on [http://americancensorship.org/ Americancensorship.org] ) on [http://en.touhouwiki.net/skins/common/images/alicelogo.png Teacher Alice], and I need the community support on this.<br />
:Please guys, we can't be apathetic about this situation, the future of Touhouwiki and the Internet hangs in the balance! <br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:19, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Even Wikimedia and Mozilla also oppose the bill, so that means SOPA has deep impact to us - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 16:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::The fact that this site has translators' ethics is a bit worrying. I would be in favour of using the site news section regarding SOPA, but this would require editor support and admin approval. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 18:00, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::''Latest News'': Wikimedia decided to blackout English version Wikipedia on 18 January 2012, for more information, [http://blog.wikimedia.org/ read here] - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 07:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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As the date approaches closer and closer, (Jan 24th 2012) we need to take swift action.<br />
I still want our wiki to bear the censor symbol, and if we can, participate in the blackout (Got till tomorrow Jan 18 12 Am).<br />
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Come on editors!<br />
Join us in our bid to speak out against censorship!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 03:36, 18 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Personally I really dislike involving my hobbyist activities in politics, but this time this seems to be more than simple politics. I'd say why not? I'd like to hear about what the admins think. --'''This message from [[User:Deathsoul4|DeltaSierra4]] was delivered on''' 03:56, 18 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't know what non-americans can do. I've spoken to some americans and they think it's one of the better ideas that's coming out of congress (their argument being that they're hard-working honest people that don't pirate so why would it affect them?). You'd think a country of 300 million+ would be able to stage some sort of massive retaliation against this. Like, totally the largest revolt you'll ever seen. Has such a thing happened? I don't know, I don't see any news about it. In fact, it seems like most people don't even know about it --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 22:35, 18 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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''Latest News'': Wikipedia English alreaty started blackout, Mozilla Foundation decided to blackout tomorrow - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 06:43, 18 January 2012 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=241487Talk:Touhou Wiki2012-01-18T22:35:08Z<p>Tsukihime: /* SOPA? */</p>
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==Twitter==<br />
I almost hate to say it, but it's a useful medium and resource that we aren't exploiting and is an(other) advantage we have over that other wiki. http://twitter.com/touhouwiki is being attributed to us, but isn't being used at all right now. Does no one have any idea who owns it? I've found I quite like Twitter and would be totally willing to put in the work if we can get it. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 16:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I see they have a Twitter. And a Facebook. [http://www.facebook.com/pages/Touhou-Wiki/181196018574656 Which I guess we also have], but again aren't using. That's one thing they're doing better, and that sucks. Of course, this is just coincidental. My decision to bring this up has to do with other things we can do and what's best for us. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 16:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::You mean what am I doing on twitter such as [https://twitter.com/#!/KyoriAsh/status/145955017273262080 this], [https://twitter.com/#!/KyoriAsh/status/145955037217161216 this], [https://twitter.com/#!/KyoriAsh/status/145955070905815040 this] and [https://twitter.com/#!/KyoriAsh/status/145955562465673216 this]? Meanwhile, our arch rival wiki already have a good start with [http://twitter.com/THPWiki twitter], however we don't. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 17:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm new to it all, so I wasn't aware, so don't think it's not appreciated. Acquiring and using that TouhouWiki Twitter as a hub would go a long way, though. And there's no time like the present to try and make a dent. I don't know about daily songs and junk like they're doing, since who has the time for that, but we could at least make announcements and direct everyone toward articles here, much like you're already doing. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 17:28, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I can do this. Do any of you know of a good desktop client that allows you to use multiple (4+) accounts at once ? [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 18:07, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Try [http://mashable.com/2009/06/27/twitter-desktop-apps/ here] or [http://mashable.com/2009/05/18/twitter-apps-manage-multiple-accounts/ here] or [http://www.squidoo.com/twitterapps here]. I can't say I know anything about them. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 22:03, 12 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
: So has anything been done yet? --[[User:Coyc|Coyc]] 12:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Very long News section==<br />
Lately, the News section has been gradually getting bigger and bigger. Now it's pretty ridiculous. The problem though is that it pushes the other important index links (Encyclopedia, Other Articles, Articles Needing Attention) further down the page hurting front page functionality. Something needs to be done to shorten the News section on the front page.<br />
Some possible solutions have been suggested.<br />
:1. Keep a short list on the front page, "Show more" goes to a different page with all the links.<br />
:2. Expandable "Show/Hide" on front page.<br />
:3. Trim non-important items completely.<br />
Options 1 and 2 will keep all news items but will require additional coding to be done to support it. Option 3 requires none, but will affect the quality of the news section. How should be contract the News section? [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 03:48, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I like the Show/Hide idea best. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 03:51, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Out of these three options, I prefer option 1 (with option 2 as the next best alternative). [[User:IbarakiIbuki|Ibaraki Ibuki]] 04:47, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Show/Hide has been implemented; criteria being date. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 17:13, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Mediawiki 1.18==<br />
Lately, Wikipedia suffered from [http://leuksman.com/log/2011/09/23/automatic-photo-orientation-in-mediawiki-1-18/ this problem], so might well as we stay at 1.17? However, FR wiki already updated to 1.18 and may suffered the same problem as well - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 06:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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So we'll bide our time until they get that addressed, hmm?<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 18:10, 28 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Reference Desk==<br />
[[Touhou Wiki:Reference Desk]]<br />
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This is getting nuked because of the current policy of you must register to edit.<br />
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However, I bring up that allowing the anons who do not wish to to have the privilege to just edit that page and nothing else to allow this as an option.<br />
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Worst case is that one page it zapped with stuff and we take it down.<br />
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Best case it is a useful reservoir and we give the anons a voice.<br />
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You decide.<br />
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Update: Here is why we '''need''' this<br />
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*The argument could be made that an infestation of attacks could be made if we allow this. However, the stipulation are that they only have the rights and privileges to edit that single page. Thus is is easily contained should something happen. <br />
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*This may also have these anons register in the future as they would like to be part of what happens.<br />
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*This shows we support and value the opinions of the anon and makes our wiki more attractive<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 20:15, 2 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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: What does mandatory registration have to do with whether to keep the Reference Desk? It wasn't just anons posting questions there. --[[User:Winane|Winane]] 09:51, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Well yes, it has been moved to the [[Talk:Touhou Wiki/Editor Corner|Editor Corner's page]] for editor's that have questions.<br />
I want to salvage this one (Reference Desk) for the anons to post, as this seems more fitting for it<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:49, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Theories Section ==<br />
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(I posted this here cause it won't just be aimed at the characters pages). Anyway, due to Sakuya's page, as well as Maribel's page, I thought we should create a "Theories" section on some pages, and as to my taste, it doesn't really fit well under the Fandom section with large paragraphs bulleted. As for examples, I've made an edit on [[User:Nazeo/Standardization of Character Pages|Nazeo's standardization page]] to show the layout as well as setting it out on my [[User:Tony64/Sandbox|sandbox]] on how it would look on the pages. As for a main summary, [[User:Tony64/Template:Theories Summary|this]] will be used, similar to [[Template:Bougetsushou]]. Would it be OK to implement this? {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 19:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Also, I still need to write some sort of guideline to this to stop users from adding unwanted theories. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 19:31, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Perhaps the guideline is that the theories should have a degree of significance '''in relation to the character'''. Right now, I actually cannot think of any character that would actually have any theories of great significance except for Sakuya, Maribel, and (only maybe) Alice. Any others should be heavily scrutinized. In other words, I think that the best guideline is that for now, this section can be okay only for Sakuya, Maribel, and Alice's pages unless a very good reason comes up for some other character.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 19:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::Maybe theories sections should only be allowed for characters where ZUN specifically indicated there's an actual secret of significance to be found. Mainly Sakuya (Where ZUN has explicitly stated she DOES have a background, etc. He just isn't telling anyone what it is, and has stated that whole "Eirin is surprised" and "more can be uncovered in Cage in Lunatic Runagate" (or whatever he said in that interview where he said it)) and Maribel (Where ZUN has explicitly responded to a question about her relationship with Yukari, but left it at it having something to do with Lafcadio Hearn). I'm not sure Alice qualifies because ZUN never explicitly stated there's a secret to be found there. The whole "Alice's background contradicts!" runs under assumptions that just because she was found in Makai, Shinki created her, when ZUN never really stated as such. It also runs under the assumption that the PC-98's finer details should be considered in the Windows series, which again (IMHO at least) is something we really can't assume, given several other possible contradictions (Marisa learning Star Magic after meeting Reimu when the trial version of her boss battle with Reimu in the PC-98 series explicitly states it's their first meeting, and Kurumi being a vampire when Remilia's stated to be the only known vampire to currently exist. Both leave open room for interpretation, as Marisa doesn't state it's their first time meeting in the full official version of the game, nor does Perfect Memento say there were any other vampires in Gensokyo before the only known CURRENT vampire). ....well, it is admittingly a big enough deal with the fandom that maybe it could be included regardless.<br />
::...unless you're referring about a theories section for Alice for Dolls in Pseudo Paradise, I guess. But my huge wall of text theory for that has been shrunken down enough to fit where it currently is without needing a section of its own (although if you want to re-add/revamp all that stuff I wrote about it back to it and make it its own section, that's fine with me). Oh, and I guess maybe one for Remilia regarding the Vampire Incident (although IMHO the fact that EVERY non-SDM character with the exception of "I treat everyone the same" Reimu refers to Remilia exclusively as "The Vampire" should make it a reasonably safe assumption that Remilia is "The Vampire" from "The Vampire" incident). I guess whether or not the Lunarians like Lord Tsukoyumi is the same as the original shinto god might qualify too, if only due to that one being a particularly bizarre case. ~ [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 20:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::<nowiki>*headdesk*</nowiki> And maybe Yukari. ....okay, yea, this is harder than I thought. ~ [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 20:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::::Well, perhaps to talk about the theories regarding Alice's background could perhaps go in between the "trivia" and the "fandom" sections, if there is ever a need to list things out (since it won't grow to the size of Sakuya's "theories"). As is, perhaps the theories section should therefore be only limited to Sakuya and Maribel - nobody else should have one. It is simply a matter that the two are exceptional, which is why the theories need their own section - for the other characters, it can go elsewhere.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 20:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::Yea, that works well enough. Don't want to overcomplicate things, now that I think about it. ~ [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 22:41, 3 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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And whatever you can not fit on that page goes in [[Contemplations|here]].<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:50, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Like Tosiaki said, it should really be as a subsection under Fandom, but I think that should be the case for everyone. However, pages are already long enough and I'd rather not lengthen them even more with a bunch of needless cruft. Furthermore, there's no reason the underused Contemplations section couldn't be used for such things, including in the case of Sakuya. I say we should write a sentence or two to a paragraph about these theories, and link to a separate page under Contemplations. Characters like Sakuya or Maribel with a whole host of lengthy theories can have their own page, while we have another page for miscellaneous character theories for everyone else. [[User:UTW|UTW]] 14:16, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:For the case of Sakuya and Maribel, though, the theories are very much directly related to the character as ZUN himself has made comments about them, which is why they need to be on the page - not true for any other character. Sakuya and Maribel do not have a "whole host of theories" - they have exactly the theories that are right now on their pages. Of course, even with those theories, there would be a problem with going too much into speculation on the character pages itself, so for the case of Maribel, I have included everything I thought was important to say under "Is there a relation to Yukari?" section - and left everything else under fandom. I think that this amount is the amount that should be included.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 19:32, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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(This isn't going just as ZUNNED... DX). Anyway, the original plan was to keeping it to what ZUN has officially leaked about certain theories that are very well known (which I mean that even ZUN would certainly know), but to just start with keeping to Sakuya and Maribel having this section (Was hoping it to have gone to other non-character pages, but meh). Also, like I said, it doesn't fit well under the Fandom sectio-n, as well as the Additional Information section, since all of it is bulleted and can make the layout look weird compared to other character pages. That's why I suggested it have it's own h2 section. Anyway, I'll start implementing Sakuya's to see if people do agree. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 21:40, 4 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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On the other hand, though, I do think that it would be a good idea to have a sub-section to talk about the six main theories on how Yuyuko might have killed herself (seppuku ritual suicide, stabbing her chest, cutting her throat, drowning, poison, and hanging herself), but it will not go under a "theories" section. I will get to it eventually.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 09:55, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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The reason why I would say that those suicide theories should be included on the character page rather than contemplations is because there is actually substantial official evidence for all six.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 10:02, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:You have official evidence for all six mutually exclusive theories of suicide? Unless they are all true and Yuyuko is Rasputin, you're being terribly inconsistent. If six different users presented six different theories and each of them believes he is right and the others are wrong, edit wars are inevitable regardless of how much official evidence they have to back up their claims. That's why moving these theories (and not just about Yuyuko, but about any character) to the [[Contemplations]] page is a reasonable compromise.<br />
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:And if you do decide to talk about exactly how Yuyuko died (and to my knowledge the answer appears to be "I don't know"), please mention at least some of these theories are just theories. (And put it under a "Theories" section, pretty please?)<br />
:[[User:IbarakiIbuki|Ibaraki Ibuki]] 14:42, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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::No, these are not just "theories." As Yuyuko is a bourei it is important to talk about them. They are not "six different users" - these are actually the six with substantial official backing, and it is important to talk about '''what official sources say about her suicide''' and this would be important to include them, but only official sources. But I guess I mis-spoke. Yes, it will be under a "theories" section, along with theories into two other things: 1. her father, and 2. the cherry blossoms of the Sumizome.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 18:22, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::???<br />
:::Can you prove where these official six suicides are??? {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:35, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes, when I get to working on the [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]]'s page. The fact that most people do not know about the six most officially supported suicide methods is verification of the fact that it really does need to be included on Yuyuko's page.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 18:39, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::But in any case, when I earlier stated that only Sakuya and Maribel should have "theories" sections, I completely forgot about Yuyuko's important theories related to her father, the cherry blossoms of the Sumizome, and her suicide method. These are important things to talk about for Yuyuko, so she should have a "theories" section as well.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 18:44, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've heard about these six suicides (poison, seppuku, stabbing her chest, as mentioned in my user page), and some of them seem to have some backing, but I never knew there would be official backing for all six methods! I dunno if you mean that ZUN explicitly said "yeah, all six methods are true" or that Yuyuko's method of death is described differently among different official sources (like [[Silent Sinner in Blue|SSiB]], [[Perfect Memento in Strict Sense|PMiSS]], or ZUN's blog, etc.). If it's the latter case then I guess it won't be a problem to include them (yes it might sound inconsistent but there are indeed some inconsistencies within the world of Touhou Project, such as Mystia being eaten by Yuyuko but appearing again in the next game, so we can give it the benefit of the doubt).<br />
:::::Yes indeed we need to include a section about Yuyuko's death as she is a ghost and a part of Yuyuko that some of her fans are unaware of. I was always wondering why it's only described briefly in the fandom section and not appearing in some of the contemplations page. Hopefully Tosiaki can help out with providing the necessary information here. [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 19:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Touhou Hentai Doujin Works==<br />
Hmm... I wanted to ask this for a long time, is there any chance to allow to create this related game articles? I know this type of game can be problematic... But, as a wiki, this type of information should not be ignored... - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 01:51, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I don't see why not (well, as a wiki of course). Speaking of which Touhou Hanafuda needs its page too. This message from [[User:Deathsoul4|DeltaSierra4]] was delivered on 02:05, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:It seems like it is only that nobody has ever created one before, but that isn't because there is any rule against it - just that nobody has done before. As the purpose of this wiki is to cover anything Touhou-related (both the original and derivative works), it seems like it actually should be covered.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 02:15, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::If done right, (give the NSFW warnings, things like that) I say why not.<br />
::(Hmm, a sample test page would read in big text "Warning, NSFW" and have links that read "Continue" which links to the Hentai page and "Back", which would link back to the Doujin Portal.)<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 02:41, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::Then a draft of Hentai articles rules should be compiled. Let's see, mostly will have story section, gameplay (Visual novel................) and other stuff... - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 03:24, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::I think that pages created just for the purpose of warnings would not really be appropriate for a wiki that is supposed to be documenting information.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 03:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::The user should always be warned about NSFW content. I didn't think I would have to worry about such stuff while browsing this wiki, but if we really are including hentai, we need to tell the user that. [[User:IbarakiIbuki|Ibaraki Ibuki]] 04:12, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::In any case, whatever the form the warning is, should not, of course, be a separate page created for it by itself.<br />
::::Also, although we are not Wikipedia, I think that when it comes to dealing with things like this, we should generally follow what Wikipedia does with censorship, because we are essentially documenting information. Thus, I think it would be best to adopt Wikipedia's [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Censorship|Censorship Policy]].<br />
::::Those who do not want to see images on this site can turn off images while browsing this site.--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 04:20, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::Right now, the most risque pictures we have are, to the best of my knowledge, some of (not-so) Innocent Key's album covers. For album covers, we follow Wikipedia's censorship policy. We could warn users of NSFW content, but not through a blank warning page. If linking from another page, putting (NSFW) beside the link ought to work. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 05:27, 13 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
That is what I was suggesting.<br />
You are correct, many NSFW pages are redundant and the only way for users to come across these is prior knowledge. <br />
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A separate option besides Kief's solution to having NSFW warning next to the link is having a redirect including the pages, then it will link to the Section that contains Hentai, (yes, there should redirect to a general page instead of each having their own NSFW redirect page as that gets redundant again.)<br />
I'm not so sure with the acceptance of this option so I'll need others opinions on how to carry such a thing out (if at all)<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:58, 15 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Non-Touhou albums==<br />
<br />
Does this wiki also deal with non-Touhou albums? There are arrange groups that have their Touhou albums posted here but I haven't been able to come across any non-Touhou albums so far. If there is none, is that because we only deal with Touhou arrange albums or simply because nobody has worked with creating pages for them yet? --'''This message from [[User:Deathsoul4|DeltaSierra4]] was delivered on''' 18:51, 14 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I guess that it is because it is only about Touhou. It does seem somewhat a shame, though, that the wider information that still might be of interest would not be covered. Does anyone know of a separate site where such information would be covered?--[[User:Tosiaki|Tosiaki]] 23:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::VGM database might be of your interest then. [http://vgmdb.net/db/main.php here's] the link.<br />
::I brought up this issue since TAMUSIC released a non-Touhou album during the last Comiket along with their Touhou arrange albums. If we've an article covering TAMUSIC's discography, I thought it wouldn't hurt to add their non-Touhou albums as well. --'''This message from [[User:Deathsoul4|DeltaSierra4]] was delivered on''' 23:29, 14 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==SOPA?==<br />
Just read it from [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:SOPA initiative|here]], not sure what will affect us though... - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 18:03, 15 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:It be naive for us to think that this wouldn't affect us; and I must speak out against the misconceptions behind it.<br />
:First off I must say how it does in fact affect us.<br />
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:Misconceptions:<br />
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:*Oh, I don't live in the US, therefore does not affect me/there is nothing I can do<br />
::Umm... sad to say this does affect you as this wiki is hosted in Absecon, <big>'''U.S.A.'''</big> and most of the internet are hosted on USA sites AND U.S.A. has a great control over the internet. And there are things you can do! Just check it out in the second link I posted. <br />
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:*Wait... Isn't this an Anti-Piracy Bill; and isn't Touhou Wiki against piracy?<br />
::Yes, Touhou Wiki frowns sternly at piracy, however, the language of the bill states that even a connection with Piracy will shut down the site without due process. This is similar to the Red Scare, if someone declares us a pirater, we get shut down. We do not even get the chance to take the content down; simply put, we get downed.<br />
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:Oh and this video explains quite simply what SOPA is,everything I explained and more,and how this is detrimental.<br />
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM SOPA Is Bad]<br />
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:...and this can potentially become "The Great Firewall of America"<br />
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:Personally, I want us, Touhou Wiki, to bear the censor symbol (found on [http://americancensorship.org/ Americancensorship.org] ) on [http://en.touhouwiki.net/skins/common/images/alicelogo.png Teacher Alice], and I need the community support on this.<br />
:Please guys, we can't be apathetic about this situation, the future of Touhouwiki and the Internet hangs in the balance! <br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:19, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Even Wikimedia and Mozilla also oppose the bill, so that means SOPA has deep impact to us - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 16:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::The fact that this site has translators' ethics is a bit worrying. I would be in favour of using the site news section regarding SOPA, but this would require editor support and admin approval. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 18:00, 16 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::''Latest News'': Wikimedia decided to blackout English version Wikipedia on 18 January 2012, for more information, [http://blog.wikimedia.org/ read here] - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 07:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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As the date approaches closer and closer, (Jan 24th 2012) we need to take swift action.<br />
I still want our wiki to bear the censor symbol, and if we can, participate in the blackout (Got till tomorrow Jan 18 12 Am).<br />
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Come on editors!<br />
Join us in our bid to speak out against censorship!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 03:36, 18 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Personally I really dislike involving my hobbyist activities in politics, but this time this seems to be more than simple politics. I'd say why not? I'd like to hear about what the admins think. --'''This message from [[User:Deathsoul4|DeltaSierra4]] was delivered on''' 03:56, 18 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't know what non-americans can do. I've spoken to some americans and they think it's one of the better ideas that's coming out of congress (their argument being that they're hard-working honest people that don't pirate so why would it affect them?). You'd think a country of 300 million+ would be able to stage some sort of massive retaliation against this. Like, totally the largest revolt you'll ever seen. Has such a thing happened? I don't know, I don't see any news about it. In fact, it seems like most people don't even know about it --22:35, 18 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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''Latest News'': Wikipedia English alreaty started blackout, Mozilla Foundation decided to blackout tomorrow - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 06:43, 18 January 2012 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=User:Tsukihime&diff=237810User:Tsukihime2011-12-28T18:31:31Z<p>Tsukihime: /* Other External */</p>
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<div>[[User:Tsukihime#Small Tools|Small Tools]]<br />
<br />
== Small Tools ==<br />
<br />
Some small scripts that I wrote to make it easier to create/edit wiki articles.<br />
<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parse_CDwiki.html CDwiki generator] (use this to create musicArticle templates. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parse_game.html Game Entry generator] (fill in the fields, get a nice game entry template Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/updateMusicArticle.html Music Article converter] (convert old music templates to the current one. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/langChecker.html Lang Tag Checker] (fixes any missing lang tags. Currently supports JA lang tag only. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parseTrackArtists.html Track Artists] (parses the album template to give list of all album arrangers, vocals, and lyricists. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/ParseDiscography.html Circle Discography parser] (parses a circle's discography. Use [https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?authkey=CPHNvPcH&hl=en&key=tL1TwjiSGeZRnw13nsoj4XQ&hl=en&authkey=CPHNvPcH#gid=8 this] for the input. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parseLyrics.html Lyrics parser] (Will support three functions: creating template, extracting from template, and updating existing lyrics. Updated july 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/ParseAlbums.html Album parser] (Takes [[Special:Export|exported]] XML files and parses all albums into a nicely formatted output for spreadsheets. Updated march 2011)<br />
<br />
== To-Do ==<br />
<br />
*[[:Category:Articles_using_outdated_templates|Update Music Headers]] - Music albums that are using the older album template.<br />
*[[:Category:Move_requests|Move requests]]<br />
*[[:Category:Candidates_for_deletion|Delete requests]]<br />
*[[:Category:No_catalogno]]<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
<br />
=== Pages ===<br />
*[[/List By Group|List By Group]]<br />
*[[/Doujin Circle Page|Doujin Circle Page]] - List of all doujin circles<br />
*[[/GenericTableTest|Generic Table]]<br />
*[[/WorldLinkTest|World Link Test]]<br />
*[[/Conventions|Conventions page]]<br />
*[[/YTQRSkills|Youkai Tan Q Roku skills page]]<br />
*[[/SWRspells|SWRspells]]<br />
<br />
=== Templates ===<br />
<br />
*[[/MusicTemplate|Music template]]<br />
*[[/DynamictableTest|Dynamic table test]]<br />
*[[/Navbox|Navbox template]]<br />
*[[/LyricPage|Lyric page]]<br />
*[[/TrackListTest|Music tracklist template]]<br />
*[[/OtherGameTest|Other game template]] (complete)<br />
*[[/CirclePageTest|Circle page and template]]<br />
*[[/Delete|Delete]]<br />
*[[/FangameInfobox|Fangame Infobox]]<br />
*[[/tab|tab]] - just some whitespace<br />
<br />
=== Tedious manual work ===<br />
<br />
*<s>[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Category:Articles_using_outdated_templates Update outdated music articles please!]</s> All music articles updated! <br />
*[[Red Link Albums|Red Link Albums]] - A number of red link albums to fill out!<br />
<br />
=== Tests ===<br />
<br />
*[[/Prefix test|Prefix test]]<br />
*[[/Subpage test|subpage test]]<br />
<br />
== Links ==<br />
<br />
=== Useful Pages ===<br />
<br />
[[:Category:Content|All Content Categories]]<br />
<br />
=== Music Databases ===<br />
<br />
*[http://doujinongaku.net/cddbs/searchTag/1 Doujin Ongaku]<br />
*[http://www16.atwiki.jp/toho/ CDwiki]<br />
*[http://vgmdb.net vgmdb]<br />
*[http://www.jv44.info/cddb/index.php jv44]<br />
<br />
=== Other External ===<br />
<br />
*http://www.touhounosekai.org/<br />
*http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=129.60<br />
*[http://goldengate.niceboard.net/t437-touhou-labyrinth Touhou Labyrinth page]<br />
*[http://nnvsxx.blog.163.com/blog/#m=0&t=1&c=fks_084066093083083064082084085095085081089071087080085065082 Some touhou music]<br />
*[http://www.kuukunen.net/toh kuukunen]<br />
<br />
=== MediaWiki reference ===<br />
<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Interface_messages MediaWiki: Pages]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents Wiki editing]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix Wiki Extensions]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LoopFunctions Wiki Loop functions]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php LocalSettings.php]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API Mediawiki API]<br />
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[[Image:Pcb_translated_image_stg6enm2.png]]<br />
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[[image:椛_怒り.png]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=User:Tsukihime&diff=237809User:Tsukihime2011-12-28T18:31:20Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
<hr />
<div>[[User:Tsukihime#Small Tools|Small Tools]]<br />
<br />
== Small Tools ==<br />
<br />
Some small scripts that I wrote to make it easier to create/edit wiki articles.<br />
<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parse_CDwiki.html CDwiki generator] (use this to create musicArticle templates. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parse_game.html Game Entry generator] (fill in the fields, get a nice game entry template Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/updateMusicArticle.html Music Article converter] (convert old music templates to the current one. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/langChecker.html Lang Tag Checker] (fixes any missing lang tags. Currently supports JA lang tag only. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parseTrackArtists.html Track Artists] (parses the album template to give list of all album arrangers, vocals, and lyricists. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/ParseDiscography.html Circle Discography parser] (parses a circle's discography. Use [https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?authkey=CPHNvPcH&hl=en&key=tL1TwjiSGeZRnw13nsoj4XQ&hl=en&authkey=CPHNvPcH#gid=8 this] for the input. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parseLyrics.html Lyrics parser] (Will support three functions: creating template, extracting from template, and updating existing lyrics. Updated july 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/ParseAlbums.html Album parser] (Takes [[Special:Export|exported]] XML files and parses all albums into a nicely formatted output for spreadsheets. Updated march 2011)<br />
<br />
== To-Do ==<br />
<br />
*[[:Category:Articles_using_outdated_templates|Update Music Headers]] - Music albums that are using the older album template.<br />
*[[:Category:Move_requests|Move requests]]<br />
*[[:Category:Candidates_for_deletion|Delete requests]]<br />
*[[:Category:No_catalogno]]<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
<br />
=== Pages ===<br />
*[[/List By Group|List By Group]]<br />
*[[/Doujin Circle Page|Doujin Circle Page]] - List of all doujin circles<br />
*[[/GenericTableTest|Generic Table]]<br />
*[[/WorldLinkTest|World Link Test]]<br />
*[[/Conventions|Conventions page]]<br />
*[[/YTQRSkills|Youkai Tan Q Roku skills page]]<br />
*[[/SWRspells|SWRspells]]<br />
<br />
=== Templates ===<br />
<br />
*[[/MusicTemplate|Music template]]<br />
*[[/DynamictableTest|Dynamic table test]]<br />
*[[/Navbox|Navbox template]]<br />
*[[/LyricPage|Lyric page]]<br />
*[[/TrackListTest|Music tracklist template]]<br />
*[[/OtherGameTest|Other game template]] (complete)<br />
*[[/CirclePageTest|Circle page and template]]<br />
*[[/Delete|Delete]]<br />
*[[/FangameInfobox|Fangame Infobox]]<br />
*[[/tab|tab]] - just some whitespace<br />
<br />
=== Tedious manual work ===<br />
<br />
*<s>[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Category:Articles_using_outdated_templates Update outdated music articles please!]</s> All music articles updated! <br />
*[[Red Link Albums|Red Link Albums]] - A number of red link albums to fill out!<br />
<br />
=== Tests ===<br />
<br />
*[[/Prefix test|Prefix test]]<br />
*[[/Subpage test|subpage test]]<br />
<br />
== Links ==<br />
<br />
=== Useful Pages ===<br />
<br />
[[:Category:Content|All Content Categories]]<br />
<br />
=== Music Databases ===<br />
<br />
*[http://doujinongaku.net/cddbs/searchTag/1 Doujin Ongaku]<br />
*[http://www16.atwiki.jp/toho/ CDwiki]<br />
*[http://vgmdb.net vgmdb]<br />
*[http://www.jv44.info/cddb/index.php jv44]<br />
<br />
=== Other External ===<br />
<br />
*http://www.touhounosekai.org/<br />
*http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=129.60<br />
*[http://goldengate.niceboard.net/t437-touhou-labyrinth Touhou Labyrinth page]<br />
*[http://nnvsxx.blog.163.com/blog/#m=0&t=1&c=fks_084066093083083064082084085095085081089071087080085065082 Some touhou music]<br />
*[http://www.kuukunen.net/toh]<br />
<br />
=== MediaWiki reference ===<br />
<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Interface_messages MediaWiki: Pages]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents Wiki editing]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix Wiki Extensions]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LoopFunctions Wiki Loop functions]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php LocalSettings.php]<br />
*[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API Mediawiki API]<br />
<br />
[[Image:Pcb_translated_image_stg6enm2.png]]<br />
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[[image:椛_怒り.png]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki/Editor_Corner&diff=229964Talk:Touhou Wiki/Editor Corner2011-11-12T05:18:02Z<p>Tsukihime: /* The "phrase" that every single translator just refuses to translate. Yes...You know which one i'm talking about ... */</p>
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<div>== Idea ==<br />
<br />
The name itself is irrelevant. I just came up with something quick. We should have a page primarily focused on editors that's easily accessible. It will contain a list of "works in-progess" such as the subpaging move, updating music article templates, red link albums, translations, etc.<br />
<br />
It would be useful if you're not sure what's going on around the wiki changes sometimes just get approved (over IRC) and is implemented quickly (but not quick enough since there are dozens or hundreds of articles to go through). The page would be decorated very stylishly for presentation purposes, but it would basically have headings that group the kind of editing job it is. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 18:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:[[Touhou Wiki:Community Portal|Sounds familiar]] - [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 23:09, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: lol great, there's already stuff there. But seeing how I couldn't find it..maybe it's not obvious enough =\ --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 13:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Then we will make more use of the community portal. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 15:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Expanding Community Portal ==<br />
<br />
=== Making it more visible ===<br />
<br />
So [http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere&target=Touhou+Wiki:Community+Portal&namespace=0 What links here]? Nothing from any of the main articles. Seems like the only place we can find it are from the Welcome message, the category page (wherever that is) and some random links on people's profiles. No matter how I look at it, it's not very visible.<br />
<br />
Our sidebar currently has "Content (A-Z)" which seems rather useless for the most part. One option would be to add a link to the community portal somewhere under Recent changes, or perhaps create a section for "Community Portal" which will contain dropdown links to particular pages within (for now, there will be none as the idea has not gotten anywhere yet).<br />
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Proposal: Remove Content (A-Z), Replace with Community Portal --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 15:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:This has been completed. [[User:Chloe|Chloe]] 16:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk Page ==<br />
<br />
The talk page would be focused on editing works, and possibly editor recognition (great glory!). Why not just use the main talk page? Well there's a lot of non-editing related stuff there and trying to find a topic in the archives is pretty difficult right now. Having a topical format would be ideal. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 18:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== More stuff ==<br />
<br />
We might have a dynamically updated list of editors and also have an editor of the month raffle, where the winner receives great glory! <br />
<br />
We will make it a big deal. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 18:21, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Um, didn't [[User:Nazeo|Nazeo]] wanted to have the exact same with his [[User:Nazeo/List Of Users On Touhou Wiki|user project]]? Well, I myself am busy enough, but I wouldn't mind having something like that. But do we really need all these community features? Yeah, we'll be on par with Wikia, but I don't know if doing the exact same is particularly wise in this situation. --[[User:NamelessLegacy|NamelessLegacy]] 22:54, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Probably. Seems like he's given up on it though lol. If we constantly avoid anything that wikia does, then we'll have basically nothing. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 23:07, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Rage!==<br />
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I was kinda hoping to accomplish that by my list of editor's (see [[User:Nazeo/List Of Users On Touhou Wiki|Editor's]]) just that you beat me to the punch...<br />
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That being said, I'm in!<br />
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(Who said I gave up? Certain people I wish not to name deleted their names as soon as I put them in; ergo I have no power in keeping them there!)<br />
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In fact... I think I'll revamp this now that you've got me going here...<br />
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Update:<br />
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To '''Tsukihime''': I didn't give up, but I have to be cautious with this.<br />
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I don't want to upset anyone with it, I just want to make this as painless as possible.<br />
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That's why it seems slow, I don't want to step on people's toes!<br />
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Already I have resistance to moving forward with this, (but annoyingly, no solutions as to how to fix things...)<br />
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So suggestions?<br />
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It's yours(aka the community), not mine as what to do with it...<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I think it would be best to separate the page into various modules. The editors list would only be one module. Others would include list of tasks and whatnot. Having it all on one page may be too much information because the list can grow extremely fast (as can be seen from the current portal). So the list of users would continue to focus on "people" related stuff like teams and whatnot. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 05:49, 10 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm good with that if I can figure out how to do it...<br />
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::I'll accept any help that can go into this, but I won't idle by; I will figure it out if everyone is too busy!<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 02:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Transforming==<br />
I'm going to turn this into a relay system and keep it alive.<br />
<br />
Why?<br />
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Well, we now have the [http://webchat.ppirc.net/?channels=touhouwiki IRC] for speedy contact, the [[Touhou Wiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]] if someone needed work, the [[Talk:Touhou Wiki|Talk]] for this wiki and [[User:Nazeo/List Of Users On Touhou Wiki|The User Project]] as a quick resource.<br />
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So, what this will now be used is a way where Users can use this as a tool where... <br />
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*If they want to ask other editor's questions that aren't normally on the IRC due to Time Zones, Unawareness and etc.<br />
*Talk about things that don't quite fit into the Community Portal, the talk page, or The User Project.<br />
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Basically, this will be a hub where Editor's can...<br />
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*Ask other editor's questions.<br />
*Infer ideas.<br />
*Discuss future plans.<br />
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So, who's with me?<br />
<p>[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 03:17, 7 August 2011 (UTC)</p><br />
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I'm glined from the IRC network, so I have nothing wrong with this, it could help a lot people who either can't access the IRC at all, don't want to, or simply aren't on on the same time zones as everyone else.<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 07:02, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for your support!<br />
:It was [[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]]'s idea and I'm just trying to keep it alive<br />
:[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 07:13, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Some confusion ==<br />
<br />
I am currently trying to rewrite the character page for Reimu, and many things just confuse me. First off, why are appearances constantly referring to the last game? You end up with MoF referring PoFV referring IN referring PCB referring EoSD for Reimu's appearance, I'm not sure about you, but it gets a bit confusing for me. I'm also unsure how to depict the relationships for her since she knows pretty much everyone. I'm also unsure if I should mention the PC-98 era characters.<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 18:52, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I guess it is for continuity, (Like President Grover Cleveland appearing twice but not in a consecutive fashion)<br />
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But, at the same time, I'd say something like EoSD-Ten Desires with breaks during Double Spoiler and Shoot the Bullet<br />
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And I say yes for including Pc-98 for it indeed happened!<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:20, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:: I meant that more concerning the relationships. Genji is never seen after Touhou 5, neither are any of the characters supposedly living in Reimu's shrine besides Suika.<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 21:26, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Then how do we explain such Characters like [[Ruukoto]]?<br />
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Supposdly she is still with Reimu... and this starts with me gettinga headache trying to explain the jump from Pc-98 to Windows.<br />
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I almost want to treat them as two seperate people, Pc-98 Reimu and the Windows Reimu.<br />
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So... I guess we can say that we can *shudder* speculate as best as we can on what happened to Genji and the rest of Pc-98...<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:51, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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For now, I simply don't mention them in relationships as to avoid confusion<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 21:54, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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So should we do the same with Genji until we have a better way of sorting this out?<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 22:02, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Reimu's page. ==<br />
<br />
Ultimatum cancelled.<br />
<br />
I propose we change the current [[Hakurei Reimu]] page to this updated one with the InfoBox layout; [[User:Sefam/Reimu_Hakurei]]. As I am not a major editor on the site and as the Reimu page IS the most visited page on the wiki, I decided to ask before by throwing this ultimatum. You can change your votes along the way and propose suggestions, there are a few things I would like to change/expand on myself, such as the Relationships section.<br />
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I vote yesh!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 22:01, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Please allow me to change some little stuff. s the appereacne is still not that good with what first appears in the subsection. (Like that (Th 1-5 blabla)) ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 22:02, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm currently working on it, but I'l hold my modifications on the bench and see what you can do to it first. [[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 22:03, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Qwanti suggested I should update the page right now, so I did. I'l just call off the ultimatum and we can work on the page from here<br />
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The Reimu page needs some help right now! [[Talk:Reimu_Hakurei]]<br />
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== Separate pages for the 3 fairies ==<br />
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I'm currently looking at the infobox layout, and at the Sunny/Luna/Star page, and I have a bit of a problem with the page; why is it that three characters that have a rather significant amount of canon material(More than Maribel and Renko who both have their own page) have a single page?<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 22:11, 7 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I agree that they should be separated. <br />
But as we do this, we should also unchain the Prismrivers as well.<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 06:29, 8 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Add Original Songs to Character pages? ==<br />
<br />
I thought it was a good idea anyway...<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 05:46, 12 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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You mean like the character themes? I did that as you can see on the Reimu/Marisa/Youmu pages. Check "Music Themes" in the infobox.<br />
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The reason it's not done on most other profiles is that Momi hurried to update every character page to the infobox layout. I'l get to the music themes myself later.<br />
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--[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 11:45, 12 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Kk, it looks like I'm willing to totally revamp these char-pages to a total centralization as I notice they are almost all over the place! <br />
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I'm using [[Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] as a example for what the all the pages should look like.<br />
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If you need me or have something you need to tell me,[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] (or anyone else), just ask<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 04:01, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I should refer to the [[Touhou Wiki:Guidelines#Character article guidelines|Guidelines]] for a good overview what needs to change. ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 11:33, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Official profiles too big ==<br />
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[[Reimu]]<br />
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I think the official profile section takes way too much space in the contents section, it takes more than half of the list, and it expands itself unless you explicitely tell it to hide. Reimu is one of the biggest and most visited pages, and due to the sheer amount of games the shrine maiden has been in, it looks bloated.<br />
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How can I keep the profile sections without them showing in the content box?<br />
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And yes, the fairy trio split is coming when I stop procrastinating. ;p<br />
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--[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 13:06, 30 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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<br />
==The Massive Image Moving Project==<br />
[[File:Prepare for Battle!!!.png|thumb|500px|center|<center>It's go time!</center>]]<br />
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<big>Alright first off you must be willing to devote almost all of your time on this, no slackers, got it? <br/>Second, '''NO ONE''' begins without [[User:WGH|WGH's]] express say-so!<br/>If we are going to do this, we are going to do this right, got it?</big><br />
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Ok, I need all the active people on this.<br />
<br />
Two of our good friends attempted this and got burned.<br />
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So now, we shall avenge our brothers and led on a cause of our own<br />
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'''Administrators'''<br />
*Interwiki ('''VERY Important, DO NOT SCREW UP!!!''') and move the imgs to their new title<br />
(Kill the redirects)<br />
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'''Everyone Else'''<br />
*Scour across the language wikis and see if the images show up. <br />
If not, check the name and correct it if it's simply missing, and if not moved, check with an admin.<br />
<br />
We have our battle roster here (Add yourself, if you think u are worthy...)<br />
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*[[User:Nazeo|Nazeo]]<br />
*[[User:Tony64|Tony64]] (One of the two who got "burned")<br />
*[[User:Sefam|Sefam]]<br />
*[[User:IbarakiIbuki|IbarakiIbuki]]<br />
*[[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]]<br />
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Now, it's very important that we do not fail.<br/><br />
The wiki is in our hands now!<br />
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Who's with me?!?<br />
<br />
(Rally the troops, there will be BLOOD!!!!)<br />
<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 17:55, 31 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: Stop right now. All image-moving projects all frozen until further notice. I'll try to resolve it as soon as possible. Thanks. -[[User:WGH|WGH]] 18:10, 31 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Glad to hear it!<br />
We are awaiting for deployment!<br />
I was gonna wait until you are done with yours (I think it's quite ambitious of you)<br />
Just give us the word, and we shall move!<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 18:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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So, is this bootstarted yet? I'd like to participate. --[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 00:09, 1 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Add yourself to the roster, we will go at [[User:WGH|WGH's]] Command!<br />
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(I also heard [[User:K|K]] is jumping in on this, gratz to him as well!)<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:14, 1 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I barely even know what this is about to be honest, but if it helps the wiki, I'm all for helping! But it would be nice if someone could instruct me about what needs to get done in this project, like, what's the range of the images that we need to move? All of them on the wiki? --[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 02:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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In a word, Yes.<br />
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'''DON'T BEGIN JUST YET!'''<br />
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Hold on for [[User:K|K]] and [[User:WGH|WGH]]<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 03:25, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I still have no idea what all this madness is about, but I'm interested, and I'll try to do whatever I can.<br />
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Because: '''THIS! IS! TOUHOU!!'''<br />
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[[User:IbarakiIbuki|Ibaraki Ibuki]] 04:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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To reiterate: we will announce when it is appropriate to take on this project. Do not start anything in the meantime. Your work will be reverted and you will break things on the wiki. [[User:Chloe|Chloe]] 04:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Moving images will not break things if the person dedicated to change the link in time. That's what I'm thinking when moving Th02 characters' images - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 13:08, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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<br />
To Chloe: I understand the gravity of the situation and we are waiting until the call, right guys?<br />
<br />
Keep yourselves toasty, because when they do get done we will take this by storm!<br />
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To KyoriAsh: ...And for that reason is why we are waiting. <br />
<br />
We must keep this together, otherwise we are going to trip over each other and crash and burn like roasted marshmallows.<br />
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Don't worry, this will get done.<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 03:43, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I can't see any specifics for the project. What is the scope of the project, and why do all these images need to be moved anyway? [[User:Arcorann|Arcorann]] 04:43, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Some images, named as Thxx<long name>.png, some used <short form game name><short name>.png, some used Thxx<short name>.PNG/JPG, and some even directly upload the extracted file without renaming<br />
:The image moving ultimate target is to convert all character's image naming to <code>Thxx<Short name with first letter of the name in capital letter>.png/jpg</code> - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 16:04, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Though, all the files are already on the move list with the file name it should be, so the only thing to do is moving it, and that is an admin's task. What should non-admin do (after the "go" is said) anyway? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Non-admin should check across all language wiki whether the pic link is broken or not - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 18:44, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
Ugh, where these theatrics come from? Not much external help is needed. Probably none. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 16:11, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Theatrics?<br />
This is just how serious we are my comrade!<br />
Nonetheless, we are on stand by!<br />
As with what Kyori said, we are here to back you up on your epic battle!<br />
<br />
(If I miss anything in the tasks, add them there and add yourself to the roster if participating.)<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 22:55, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, obvious. That one I forgot. I also just remebered that the "move request" after ove should be deleted. And write me in for "the move". ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 23:21, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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You have been added!<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 20:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I would like to initiate a trial move for TH04 char's images, however I need "someone's permission" before I can go for it. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 11:57, 8 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Backend reports: [[User:WGH|WGH]] is making progress on his image moving magic scripts. [[User:K|I]] am almost done bringing the GlobalUsage extension up to a workable state, which will make checking for a certain image across multiple wikis much easier. Image move operations are to remain on hold until backend preparations are complete. This means don't touch anything. [[User:K|K]] 17:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Also, when we're ready to go, an exact step-by-step process should be written up that will guide a user through the image moving process. Having this kind of process documented will minimize confusion. [[User:K|K]] 17:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the Intel [[User:K|K]]!<br />
We will be ready for the call!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:00, 9 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Meantime, let's clarify some things. Particularly, character images naming scheme. I don't see ''any'' good reason to make file name as abbreviated as possible. But there are some shortcomings. Such messy file names are a bit hard to read, and they would be barely searchable by search engines. Maybe do something like <code><nowiki>Th<Game number>-<English abbreviated game title>-<Full character name, words separated with _s>.jpg</nowiki></code>? --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 18:31, 10 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:This is not for me to say.<br />
:I carry out the orders.<br />
:I'd say go for it (waiting takes way too long) so the ones who are opposed will tell us '''AND''' offer a alternative solution.<br />
:That way, stuff gets done and we can get rockin!<br />
:[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 01:28, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Several suggestions have been put forth. I know one suggestion mentioned having first name only, primary reason being easier for non-English wiki users to handle.<br />
::I prefer having full character name to reduce ambiguity. There is one case where the first name only would have a shortcoming, and which could only be resolved by assigning a nick to another (i.p. udonge or reisenii in SSiB).<br />
::I am more indifferent about underscores to space names. Maybe I'll form an opinion on that sometime later. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 02:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::<code>Thxx<Short name with first letter of the name in capital letter>.png/jpg</code> is sufficient to resolve ambiguity, for Reisens, use Reisen and ReisenII to differentiate. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 04:20, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Except for the adding of "English abbreviated game title" I'm not against it. Adding the abbreviation seems rather pointless as the game is already clarified. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 19:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: The reason I suggested abbreviated game title is SEO. This way there are more chances that obvious google query like "touhou reimu pcb" will get the right page (the image in the File namespace) as the most relevant result. [[User:WGH|WGH]] 16:37, 7 October 2011 (UTC) <br />
: I'm still waiting for more opinions/responses. There are currently only two of them - mutually exclusive ones. Only Kiefmaster99 supported one of them. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 19:42, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Due to GlobalUsage's unusual behaviour, I'm afraid that I will take out the plan of edit-first-then-reupload across inter-language wiki, as this may bring up the GlobalUsage from the language which uploaded it, and for abbreviated game title, why should File been query by google rather than game title? It's unnecessary. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 17:19, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
: I believe if you're looking for Reimu's image from PCB, "touhou reimu pcb" is the most natural search query. Getting to it from PCB article would take you a few extra clicks, wouldn't it? --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 20:37, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::[http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=ja&source=hp&q=touhou+reimu+pcb&pbx=1&oq=touhou+reimu+pcb&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=199419l199419l1l199877l1l1l0l0l0l0l198l198l0.1l1l0&fp=1&biw=1665&bih=956&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&cad=b Are you sure about the "query"?] - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 11:03, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: What are you trying to say with this link? --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 17:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::It means the result DOES NOT REALLY return PCB related Reimu images/articles, but rather unrelated to PCB Reimu, also, not everyone search using PCB. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 17:32, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::: My intention is to make it actually return related results. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 17:37, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Splitting the fairies. Now. ==<br />
<br />
My articles for the three fairies are ready, as well as the joint page;<br />
<br />
[[User:Sefam/Sunny_Milk]]<br />
<br />
[[User:Sefam/Luna_Child]]<br />
<br />
[[User:Sefam/Star_Sapphire]]<br />
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[[User:Sefam/Three_Mischievous_Fairies]]<br />
<br />
Before making the transition myself, I want to know;<br />
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1. Is there any way I could make the joint page better, I have no ideas.<br />
<br />
2. Will the navbox adapt itself to the character currently in the page by itself?<br />
<br />
3. Will the redirects work correctly to the correct article. IE. If I search Sunny Milk, I want to end up on the Sunny Milk page, not the Three Mischievous Fairies page.<br />
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:I have put up a notice for a possible name change for the main, just so you know. The Navbox would go like "GROUPNAME &bull; (NAME1 &bull; NAME2 &bull; NAME3)" or something like that I guess.<br />
:One thing to watch out for: poorly piped links. By that, I mean <code><nowiki>[[Three Mischievous Fairies|Sunny Milk]]</nowiki></code>. See [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Piped link#When not to use|'''when not to use piped links''']]. You need to do a "what links here".<br />
:For 3, you'll be replacing the redirect page with the character's article. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 21:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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The fairies are now split and happy! You can now visit their respective pages! [[Sunny Milk]] [[Luna Child]] [[Star Sapphire]] [[Three Fairies of Light]]. I'm wondering what to work on now.<br />
:Nice. I wonder if there is more to tell with the Three Fairies, but the character pages looks good too individual. Maybe we could also split the prismirver sisters page (and now I will help too!). ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Redirect supression when moving an article==<br />
Is it good or bad? I think it's bad. Other sites link to our articles pretty often. Nobody likes when links cease to work. I propose to forbid using redirect supression when moving old articles. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 20:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:However, there will be ALOT of useless redirect especially those <code>&lt;game&gt;: category</code> or <code>&lt;game&gt;/something</code>, it's uncommon and if there is no interwiki link, then it consider useless, except for common redirect. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 03:10, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: I didn't say "interwiki", not even once. I'm talking about external links. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 09:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::External link is not our concerns, even Wikipedia also not concerns about it, also only certain redirects like character name should be preserved, and not like this type of redirection of the games' sub-pages link. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 10:04, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::: Could you give me the proof that Wikipedia doesn't care about links from external websites? I see exactly the opposite [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:R#HARMFUL | here]]. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 10:13, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Why you would need to retain the old redirect when it was deemed no use, even some of the external site is using? External site should update the link especially those <code>&lt;game&gt;/subpage1/subpage2</code> and not to retain those old pages. Just like some website already closed and you still using the old external link is improper - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 10:23, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Should, should... This is unattainable in practice. End users should update their IE6, yet web site owners still have to retain (''more or less'') backward compatibility. By the way, what did you mean by comparing Touhou Wiki with closed site? --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 10:38, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I wait someone to clarify it, besides, [http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=ja&source=hp&q=http:%2F%2Fen.touhouwiki.net%2Fwiki%2FUndefined_Fantastic_Object%2FTranslation%2FReimu_A%27s_Scenario&pbx=1&oq=http:%2F%2Fen.touhouwiki.net%2Fwiki%2FUndefined_Fantastic_Object%2FTranslation%2FReimu_A%27s_Scenario&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=80898l101644l0l102026l89l65l1l2l2l0l744l14751l3.23.16.8.1.5.1l59l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=8f3d25a97a9d705b&biw=1665&bih=956 Not even any external link return the result] - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 11:03, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I think when a page is moved, especially a page that is visited often, the redirect should stay for some time before it gets deleted. After a while it is linked to the new page rather than the redirect. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 15:16, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: Even "some time" wouldn't help. It could be, for example, useful forum post, which its author will never bother to update. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 17:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== The "phrase" that every single translator just refuses to translate. Yes...You know which one i'm talking about ... ==<br />
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It's that phrase that has been used over 60 times. It's become one of Zun's signature trademark. It emphasizes gensokyo's sense of sarcasm. It's the one phrase that should be familiar to any and all touhou translator. <br><br><br />
I'm talking about "-程度の能力". <br><br><br />
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It's the phrase that has been used every single time as a template to describe a character's ability. Yet it never gets translated. not once.<br />
<br> For example, "能力:心を読む程度の能力" simply becomes "Ability: Power to read people's hearts". The actual translation for 程度の is "Just about the extent of ___".. or more simply, "About the extent of ____ ". [Ability: About the extent of reading people's hearts]<br />
Now...this is Zun's genius way of showing gensoukyo's natural sense of sarcasm and ironic side. The phrase 程度の tries to make their ablity sound modest and unimpressive on purpose, as if it's trying to make people wonder, "What? Is that realy all you've got?". So what if you can manipulate fate? So what if you can manipulate nuclear fusion? This is Gensokyo, a paradise where everything is above and beyond the extent of anyone's imaginations. On the other hand, Reimu's profile doesn't even make an effort to impress anyone (much like her actual personality). She's the crime solving, youkai exterminating, divine summoner of the hakurei shrine...yet..in her profile.. "Abilty: About the extent of flying".... Woe to the one who underestimates this human girl... <br />
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Is translating "the phrase" somekind of unwritten taboo or something O_o . I ask this because I'm in the (slow)process of mass translation revision. <br />
The "ability" section in wiki's character profile infobox can be left alone but i'm strictly talking about the official "character.txt" translation. My goal is to translate underlying messages, sarcasm, and nuances, but I was wondering if using "Ability: About the extent of __" would just confuse people. Would everyone get Zun's sense of sarcastic humor? Is there a better/more natural translation of the phrase? Should we just leave it with the generic "Ability: The power to ___"? <br> [[User:Tren|Tren]] 21:29, 11 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I'm no translator, but this fact is notable enough to be put in a footnote, but putting it in all the profiles would be pretty confusing.<br />
However, where that footnote should go is anyone's choice.<br />
That is, if anyone else agrees with me <br />
(Agree to disagree!)<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 02:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I'd lean towards the fact that the resulting translation may sound awkward to english speakers. It would be nice to have a more accurate translation, as some people probably feel they're missing out on a lot of important details. Maybe you can create a page that lists these things that need attention. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 05:18, 12 November 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=229869Talk:Touhou Wiki2011-11-11T01:56:07Z<p>Tsukihime: /* Colors/Colours */</p>
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=== Character Page Sections ===<br />
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I'm using the [[Reimu]] page as a baseline along with the new InfoBox layout.<br />
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Right now, the sections are divided like this;<br />
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:Main Description<br />
:(Contents Box here)<br />
:1 Concept<br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 Occupation<br />
::1.4 Relationships<br />
:2 Story<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Sources<br />
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Currently, I'm thinking of chopping out section 1.3 and merging it with the Main Description. I think that the first few paragraphs of the page should describe the character briefly, its personality and the character's status quo(Ex. Reimu is a shrine maiden who solves incidents). I find that very hard to do without repeating myself in the occupations section. The InfoBox also has a occupations section.<br />
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Also, I don't think that 1.4 fits well in "Concept". Relationships are not part of the character's concept; the name is, the appearance is, but not the relationships. Should we put this section somewhere else?<br />
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Many other pages are like this and currently the model for the InfoBox layout is like this. Should we change/standardize it?<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 04:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I feel that 1.4 would allow to see how the relationships evolve over time if it's under story.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Note that "concept" is all optional. If some information is too short and fits better in the intro that is good, I guess. And other optional subheadings are fine too, like for the ability. And subsubheadings could be used too (Refering to [[Yukari Yakumo]]). ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Right, I understand that.<br />
For example, not all characters have a special occupation([[Rin|Rin]]) or notable ability that has to be explained ([[Yuugi]]) <br />
It was more along the lines that the information, if they did have that stuff, should be presented the same way in the same places if they are there.<br />
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This is what I'm thinking...<br />
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(These borrow elements from Sefam and UTW and one other person I'm forgetting. Sorry.)<br />
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:Main Description<br />
A short Summary of Character on top of Contents box<br />
:(Contents Box here) <br />
:1 Concept <br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 (Personality) <br />
::1.4 (Some other thing) *Optional<br />
:2 Story (with links to their dialogue)<br />
:2.1 BackStory *Maybe Optional... (Reason being I'm not sure if all characters do have a backstory)<br />
::2.2 Relationships<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
::3.3 (Some other thing that doesn't fit under these two) *Optional<br />
::(Other notable thing goes here) *Optional<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Source<br />
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(The top is subject to change)<br />
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What I find missing often is a summary on top of the profile, dialogue, appearance is missing, things like that.<br />
So, tell me what you think!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, something like that, plus a maybe reference (youtube for example). But I think relationships should be part of "concept". ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 19:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry, too many pages to keep track of and I thought things were finally settled on. One, I suggested the optional Personality under Concept, in case that ever needs more elaboration than what's touched on in the opening summary. <br />
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Two, I don't believe Relationships makes much sense under "Concept", which along with what Nazeo said, implies to me that it should be used mostly for the bare bones of a character. I wonder if this is too rigid a thought. Obviously the other option is to forget this very literal definition, cram it all under Concept again and leave Story for that alone, especially since Story is so lengthy for some characters. <br />
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Also, thinking about the way I laid out some articles like [[Mononobe no Futo]] or [[Toyosatomimi no Miko]] when adding the historical/fictional/mythological basis, I realized Name and these descriptions usually go hand in hand in most articles, so I thought Name should be renamed Name and Basis or something (when Basis information is available, anyway).[[User:UTW|UTW]] 04:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Don't be sorry, I'm just making sure that the work on these don't conflict later.<br />
(Also, while I agree with what you said about the relationships. it was [[User:Sefam]] who stated that, not me, lol)<br />
I looked at your work and I agree with the set-up, (though I added Relationships as a later thing)<br />
For Basis, it translates back as concept, so I think that'll work for now unless it's like [[Rin]] who's occupation may have a reference to Buddhism and makes the character (which would be optional because other characters may or may not have have notable qualities like that in regards to Concept)<br />
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Sorry [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]], but IMO, relationships make more sense to me in the story section.<br />
Your reference ideas if they have a basis in history can be a subsection under Trivia but on top of Fandom.<br />
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What worries me is the position of the Backstory section.<br />
If it's on top, 1.it can possibly spoil the story, but if it's under it, 2. it may repeat what the story already stated (though a simple fix may correct that 3. is that it shouldn't be a sub and be italicized and crammed somehere)<br />
So far, I'm with # 2, anyone else has their own spin on this?<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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===Character infobox lists===<br />
> [[Mima]]. Tony did an revision ([http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Mima&oldid=217577]) with using "small" for text between the brackets for specifing the stage and stuff. It looks ok imo, though, for that a template should be created so a page isn's spammed with all "<nowiki><small></nowiki>" and <nowiki><br /></nowiki> stuff. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>(dutch)</sup> 16:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did this simply because of lack of space. I'm trying to find way reduce space without harm and is why I suggested 350. I don't know any other methods apart from <nowiki><small></nowiki>. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== May I add the lyrics to some songs? ==<br />
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Just got a copy of Funny Party in the Fog, and was going to add some of the lyrics, but then I saw the line that says "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!" So this is me asking permission to add the lyrics for some of the songs. I'm sure they're copyrighted somewhere, so I thought it would be safer to ask.<br />
--[[User:Flanchan|Flanchan]] 01:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding the lyrics for songs is fine for as long as you don't just copy and paste other people's translations without crediting them. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Heaven within the Youkai mountain? ==<br />
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I believe there should be a location category called "Worlds Above" (天空) in the "outside Gensokyou" section. The "underworld" has its own category, so I suppose there should be a category for everything above gensokyo as well. The netherworld/hakugyukuro/heaven could be moved to this section (I'm not sure if the netherworld required its own category...The Hakugyokuro could even be a subcategory within the "netherworld" page). I would also add in the senkai (仙界) there, which is where the bosses of th13 moved over to after leaving the mausoleum beneath Myouren temple. Maybe even the "Dragon Palace" (竜宮) in the thunderstorm clouds as well...though i'm not sure if there's enough facts for it to have a page of its own. <br />
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Heaven and the Youkai mountain isn't literally connected by a road. It's more like a summit where the open passage through the clouds above are visible.<br />
Right now according to the wiki, it looks as if the Yama sends you to the youkai mountain once you reach ascension... [[User:Tren|Tren]] 03:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Stubs ==<br />
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Now the "stub" template isn't very clear. Yes, the page isn't fully finished and defenitly needs revision, but I think the "stub" template could be expanded for a bit. So having different kinds of stubs, "Translation stubs", "Character stubs", "Game stubs" etc. My idea is that when you do something like <br />
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{{Stub|Game|(list of stuff that needs to be done)}}<br />
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The first "Game" will be categorized as "<nowiki>[[Category:Game stubs]]</nowiki><br />
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And the template will show a very small box with small text, and using the <nowiki><toggledisplay></nowiki> to show and hide the small list of tasks. And in the middle "This article about a game is a stub. If you can add to it in any way, please do so."<br />
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Sure, it could be put on the community portal, but it is useless to put every stub there. And for things like fangames it could be usefill. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 00:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Fan doujins by character? ==<br />
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I figured I would get some input before starting this. I figured that there are a lot of Touhou Doujins out there with alot of characters...I figured maybe we can put up a page and list the doujins on the character by appearance?<br />
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We don't have to go around digging for them...it's something to add to when we come across them. [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 21:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Incomplete Translations ==<br />
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There are plenty of pages for songs or literature that haven't been translated into English. Cage in Lunatic Runagate's seventh chapter is nearly entirely blank, the eighth chapter is also incomplete and the afterword has no English at all. That's just one example. I was wondering who has the knowledge to translate these sorts of things, as the pages seem very half-done without them. [[User:DarkMarxSoul|DarkMarxSoul]] 00:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10102.60.html Good luck there... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 00:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "Fake" games ==<br />
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I was just looking at [[fan-made_characters/Rinbokusan_Sasaki]] and it says she was made for a "fake" touhou game.<br />
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What is a "Fake" game? Perhaps a more descriptive term could be used to describe such games? I certainly wouldn't want players calling any games I create "fake" --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It's a game that pretends to be an official game by ZUN. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 19:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::The fake term is pretty much something inaccurate to describe such games... I don't know if it is refering to that it is a "fake" Touhou game or a "Fake" game, just... leave them as Touhou "clones" if anything... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 20:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Pool Touhou Wiki? ==<br />
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What is [http://pool.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page this]? What's it going to be? I discovered it when I tried to upload a new image... {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Just change pool. to en. --[[User:Hikaruxz|Hikaruxz]] 19:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:OK. Thanks for the info ^^ {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 21:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Game Navbox restructuring ==<br />
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I've been considering the (official) game navboxes, and I think we can organize them far better than they are right now.<br />
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My biggest concern at the moment is that we have a page/subpage structure named "translation". This is, in my opinion, a rather useless structure. The translation page itself is hardly even useful, and the most I've seen it do is link to the scenario pages. Nothing the navbox can't do, in any case. As for its use as a header, I'm pretty sure everyone who comes here expects to see a translation anyway, regardless of whether the header labels it explicitly or not. I think we can safely do away with it.<br />
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And so, in its place, I thought it would be far better to unify the groups under the headers "story", "gameplay" and "documentation" for most games. Prologue/extra story, scenario/extra scripts, characters and locations all belong under the Story subsection. Strategy and spellcards belong under Gameplay, and Documentation is for anything else within the game files, like the music comments and afterword. Not all games navboxes will look the same, of course, but I mean as a general guideline. Games like Shoot the Bullet that lack a story as such would retain the Translation structure for instance.<br />
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Some examples:<br />
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([[Template:Navbox TD|Ten Desires one implemented]])<br />
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{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox IaMP<br />
|title = [[Immaterial and Missing Power]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th075Cover.jpg|155px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation|Story]]</center><br />
|list1 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|list1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Reimu's Scenario|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Marisa's Scenario|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Sakuya's Scenario|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Alice's Scenario|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Patchouli's Scenario|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Youmu's Scenario|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Remilia's Scenario|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yuyuko's Scenario|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yukari's Scenario|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Suika's Scenario|Suika]]<br />
|group2 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list2 = [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Sakuya Izayoi]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] &bull; [[Patchouli Knowledge]] &bull; [[Youmu Konpaku]] &bull; [[Remilia Scarlet]] &bull; [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]] &bull; [[Yukari Yakumo]] &bull; [[Suika Ibuki]] &bull; [[Hong Meiling]]<br />
|group3 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Stages|Stages]]<br />
|list3 = [[Hakurei Shrine]] &bull; [[Forest of Magic]] &bull; [[Scarlet Devil Mansion]] (Lobby &bull; Library &bull; Clock Tower) &bull; [[Netherworld]] ([[Hakugyokurou]])<br />
}}<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Immaterial and Missing Power/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
|list2 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Sakuya Izayoi|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Alice Margatroid|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Patchouli Knowledge|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Youmu Konpaku|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Remilia Scarlet|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Yuyuko Saigyouji|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Yukari Yakumo|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Suika Ibuki|Suika]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Hong Meiling|Meiling]]<br />
|group2 = VS Mode Script<br />
|list2 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Reimu's Script|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Marisa's Script|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Sakuya's Script|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Alice's Script|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Patchouli's Script|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Youmu's Script|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Remilia's Script|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yuyuko's Script|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yukari's Script|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Suika's Script|Suika]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Meiling's Script|Meiling]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group3 = <center>Documentation</center><br />
|list3 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Afterword|Afterword]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Music|Music Comments]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power OST|Original Soundtrack]]<br />
}}<br />
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{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox IN<br />
|title = [[Imperishable Night]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th08cover.jpg|175px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Imperishable Night/Story|Story]]</center><br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|list1 = Boundary Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Magic Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Scarlet Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Ghost Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]])<br />
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|group2 = [[Imperishable_Night/Translation/Afterword|Extra Story]]<br />
|list2 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Extra|Boundary Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Extra|Magic Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Extra|Scarlet Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Extra|Ghost Team]]<br />
|group3 = [[Imperishable Night/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list3 = [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Sakuya Izayoi]] &bull; [[Youmu Konpaku]] &bull; [[Yukari Yakumo]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] &bull; [[Remilia Scarlet]] &bull; [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]] &bull; [[Wriggle Nightbug]] &bull; [[Mystia Lorelei]] &bull; [[Keine Kamishirasawa]] &bull; [[Tewi Inaba]] &bull; [[Reisen Udongein Inaba]] &bull; [[Eirin Yagokoro]] &bull; [[Kaguya Houraisan]] &bull; [[Fujiwara no Mokou]]<br />
|group4 = Locations<br />
|list4 = [[Human Village]] &bull; [[Bamboo Forest of the Lost]] &bull; [[Eientei]] &bull; [[Moon]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Imperishable Night/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
|list2 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = <br />
|list1 = [[Imperishable Night/Strategy|Strategy]] &bull; [[High scores#Imperishable Night world records ~ "B" route & Extra only (東方永夜抄の全一記録 ~ Final-BとEX限定)|High Scores]] &bull; [[:Category:Imperishable Night Replays|Replays]]<br />
|group2 = [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list2 = [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 1|Stage 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 2|Stage 2]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 3|Stage 3]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 4A|Stage 4A Uncanny]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 4B|Stage 4B Powerful]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 5|Stage 5]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 6A|Stage 6A]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 6B|Stage 6B]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Extra|Extra]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Last Word|Last Word]]<br />
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|group3 = <center>Documentation</center><br />
|list3 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Afterword|Afterword]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Music|Music]]<br />
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Are there any major objections to doing this? And I mean beyond the amount of work :P If it comes down to it I can handle the worst of it. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 23:35, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I absolotly, and I mean seriously thinking about it, I absolotly have no objection to this :P It looks perfecly fine to me cause I was thinking the same thing before I seen the abouve you wrote. I'd say go ahead and do those useful edits :D {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 00:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes. Please, and thank you. I've hated "Translation" ever since we started the subpage setup and the navboxes as they are. If you can combine the sections in a way that makes it logical and easier to navigate, that'd be awesome. Don't forget to move the pages around too, to their proper subpage sections. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 05:12, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:So..... Momiji is planning to do away the "Translation" subpage.... hmm... Story under "Story" subpage is it? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 05:32, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It would make sense, although having "Translation" in the first place was the result of the original translation of the raw text. I always thought that having the majority of the game text, story and whatnot, being under "Translation" felt awkward and kind've inappropriate. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 05:40, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Planned, next week to do the moving, with interwiki link fix - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 06:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: Great! Good to hear I wasn't the only "Translation" hater. :V For the subpages, I thought Game/Story/Prologue, Game/Story/Scenario, Game/Story/Characters etc etc was the best structure. I don't necessarily think we should move stuff like Spell Cards under the Gameplay subpage though, just like we don't have Music under Documentation, so it'd just be the story stuff that gets moved around.<br />
: But by planned for next week, do you mean only the moving? I could reorganize the navboxes for now. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 10:39, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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What to do with the Translation page for like [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation|UFO]] where there are other documentation on it? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: We could rename those to "Miscellaneous Translations" (or something) and stick them under documentation, perhaps? --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 15:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Alright, I'll be starting on the Ten Desires navbox and subpages move now. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 11:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did say we start this weekend? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: You said next week so I wasn't sure... ^^; But Ten Desires internal stuff is done, so all that's left is stuff that links to redirects, which I'll take care of now too. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah, so the "Translation" subpage will exist. Ok then those miscellaneous translations could be put in there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:27, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: Aye, and we can put it on the documentation line in the navbox. But for now the Ten Desires translation page is really useless so I didn't put it (yet?). --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I see. I will move those "miscaleanneous translations" to that page. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Internal link fix: done, Interwiki link fix: done, useless redirect delete: done - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It looks okay to me and I think it could be done with the other game pages. Unless we are waiting for something? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes I'm waiting ''marked for move'' to avoid the useless redirect - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 13:06, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I want to do Touhou Hisoutensoku, but I am not fully sure about some stuff.<br />
{{Navbox<br />
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|title = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Story|Story]]</center><br />
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|list1 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|group2 = Scenario<br />
|list2 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Scenario|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Cirno's Scenario|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Meiling's Scenario|Meiling]]<br />
|group3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list3 = [[Sanae Kochiya]] &bull; [[Cirno]] &bull; [[Hong Meiling]] &bull; [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Utsuho Reiuji]] &bull; [[Suwako Moriya]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] ([[Goliath Doll]]) &bull; [[Patchouli Knowledge]] &bull; [[Unnamed Giant Catfish]] &bull; ([[Hisoutensoku]] &bull; [[Taisui Xingjun]])<br />
|group4 = Locations<br />
|list4 = [[Misty Lake]] &bull; [[Underground Geyser Center]] &bull; [[Nuclear Furnace]] &bull; [[Scarlet Devil Mansion]] &bull; [[Forest of Magic]]<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|list1 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay/Weather|Weather]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay/Stages|Stages]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Player System cards|System Cards]]<br />
|group2 = Skill and [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list2 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Sakuya Izayoi|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Alice Margatroid|Alice]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Patchouli Knowledge|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Youmu Konpaku|Youmu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Remilia Scarlet|Remilia]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Yuyuko Saigyouji|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Yukari Yakumo|Yukari]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Suika Ibuki|Suika]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Reisen Udongein Inaba|Reisen]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Aya Shameimaru|Aya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Komachi Onozuka|Komachi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Iku Nagae|Iku]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Sanae Kochiya|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Cirno|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Hong Meiling|Meiling]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Utsuho Reiuji|Utsuho]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Suwako Moriya|Suwako]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Unnamed Giant Catfish|Catfish]]<br />
|group3 = <center>Versus Dialogue</center><br />
|list3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Reimu's Script|Reimu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Marisa's Script|Marisa]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sakuya's Script|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Alice's Script|Alice]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Patchouli's Script|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Youmu's Script|Youmu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Remilia's Script|Remilia]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Yuyuko's Script|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Yukari's Script|Yukari]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Suika's Script|Suika]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Reisen's Script|Reisen]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Aya's Script|Aya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Komachi's Script|Komachi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Iku's Script|Iku]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Tenshi's Script|Tenshi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Script|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Cirno's Script|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Meiling's Script|Meiling]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Utsuho's Script|Utsuho]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Suwako's Script|Suwako]]<br />
}}<br />
|group3 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Music|Music]]</center><br />
|list3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST|Original Soundtrack]] ([[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST/ZUN's Comments|ZUN's comments]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST/Uni Akiyama's Comments|Uni Akiyama's comments]])<br />
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I cant place the versus dialogue anywhere then there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:What's wrong with it been under gameplay? Should it be somewhere else? {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 15:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::There is possible, seems logic. Though, I am not going to add it immediately. Waiting for more opinions. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 15:37, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Another thing I am not sure about is the subpages. Obviously the story scenarios goes under story, and some goes for the prologue. But what about the versus dialogue script? Still note sure to put those under gameplay. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 13:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Should be under Story, since mostly dialogues related to story, although only versus dialog. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 15:25, 19 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::I see, it seems okay if it is there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe adding a "terms" at the story, where stuff like "divine spirits" and "Taoism" could go at Ten Desires, for example. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Official speculation ==<br />
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Saw this term. What makes speculation official? When ZUN goes "Hmm yes that may be the case I guess though I never explicitly wrote that"? --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 05:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Dunno that it was even used. Given that the term "official" is related to ZUN, if ZUN says something about his work then it's fact, not a speculation. Why would he make speculations on his own work? [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 05:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::On second thought maybe the person using the term mistook "fan speculation" or downright his/her own speculation for that. [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 05:49, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::[http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Sakuya_Izayoi&curid=725&diff=223099&oldid=221813] It was in-universe speculation, taken from PMiSS. [[User:Morrolan|Morrolan]] 06:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Yea, it's in-universe speculation. Sorry, I thought that was clear from the context. That said, ZUN does speculate on his own things every once in a while (many characters' official profiles include the words "Probably", etc), but normally as a joke or for small stuff that falls under the [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShrugOfGod|"Shrug of God"] category. [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 14:01, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Deleting old talks ==<br />
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So how did Darkslime get away with [http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Reimu_Hakurei&diff=prev&oldid=208605 this one]? :/ {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:02, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Voting for ''de'' link change==<br />
The current '''de''' address: <nowiki>http://de.touhouwiki.net/</nowiki><br />
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The "new" '''de''' address: <nowiki>http://wiki.touhou-forum.de/</nowiki><br />
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Please give some suggestion and opinion regarding existing '''de''' wiki, thanks. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Their front page is not up to date like ours is all I'm saying. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 12:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Their front page not necessary update as en, the same as [[:zh:|''zh'']] and [[:ru:|''ru'']] also using different main page compared to ''en'' - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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How will it affect the curent de interwikis? I think if it relieves some server stress it's good to have them host it on their forum server. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:28, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Rest assure, interwiki link won't affected much - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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A sitenotice has been put up in current '''de''' wiki. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 13:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I'm ok with the link change. -[[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 16:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Ditto. It does not affect interwiki links [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 18:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It'll act in much the same way as the French Touhou Wiki. I don't see the problem with that, so long as the users of the .de wiki are in favour of it. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 18:19, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It's already in the process, I'm just waiting for K to update the mainpage to change stuff. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 19:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Feedback on the red section ying-yangs. ==<br />
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Just a little head up concerning the new red ying-yangs preceding section headers now.<br />
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I like them, they add a layer of style to the wiki, but I think the red is a bit too much. On my monitor, it really clashes with the mix of black(text), white(background) and blue/purple(hyperlinks). It could use a bit of a tone down in color. What does everyone else think? Also, they don't seem to be vertically centered with the text, is that intended?<br />
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--[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 16:06, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I think it's awesome just the way it is :D [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 17:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::A deeper color of red could be fine as well, but I'm fine with the way it is right now. [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 17:47, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: I also believe they're too bright. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 17:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I to think the red is a bit too much. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Concur. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 19:29, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I have actually been thinking of changing the yin-yangs to a blue color to match the theme better, especially given that we made the underline for h2s dark blue. How does this look? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3115610/blueicons.png [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] 14:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, that does look much better than black-white and red-white. I say go for it. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 14:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I think that blue is a little to deep. It can be a slightly more softer blue so it is more light blue, or adding more gray and white so it is a little lighter. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:58, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I like the blue myself.<br />
Reason being as [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] said, it does indeed match the theme better.<br />
If we made skins in the far future, then this would be a great idea to have different colored orbs, but that is a different matter entirely...<br />
As for the shade, I'm indifferent to it.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 20:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki pages and English patches ==<br />
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Game transcripts and spellcard names from the wiki (and maybe some other things, like character titles) often don't correspond to actual in-game text from English patches. Is it a problem (and should be fixed), or not?<br /><br />
[[User:OneMore|OneMore]] 15:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:"Just because a translation appears in a game patch does not make it 100% correct. Translations do change and become more accurate over time. Games may also have inherent limitations such as maximum length." So it means that it should stay at it is now, unless someone does have another opinion on certain translations. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 15:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, translations are always getting better, especially around here. The amount of errors/oversights I find in translations that are put up soon after a game comes out is rather staggering, but I don't have enough time to really go over them. Also, the EoSD translation is so outdated that it could actually use a whole new english patch at this point. [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] 02:08, 25 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay. [[User:OneMore|OneMore]] 08:02, 25 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::: Are the translation patches done by a single circle or are they made by several different people from all over? If it is made by a single person, I could contact him/her to help out with updated translation. [[User:Tren|Tren]] 18:15, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Some of them are by a single person, but some haven't been active for a long while and is why most of the patches haven't been updated to this wiki's standards... {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 19:03, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Obviously not by one single person. As far as I know some people from [http://www.gensokyo.org Gensokyo.org] make the translation patch, with translation from this wiki. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 19:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hmm... The ones I suspect were by a single person are HRtP, SoEW, EoSD, PCB and IN. I could be wrong, so I don't want to get into a little argument lol :) {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 20:34, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Colors/Colours ==<br />
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I am a little confused about some stuff. A while ago, Nazeo did some spellcheck edits and part of that was changing "Colour" to "color" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Undefined_Fantastic_Object/Gameplay&diff=prev&oldid=228676). Now the edits aren't bad or something, but something came to my mind.<br />
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Two of Marisa's themes, "Love-Coloured Magic" and "Love-colored Master Spark". Both has "love-colo(u)red" in it's name, but why does both have different spellings? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:20, 9 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I would assume neither themes had english titles and consequently an american and someone-not-american (british, canadian, ... ) translated it as such, and therefore now you have two versions of "colored". --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 06:39, 10 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Well, that sounds logical. One thing I want to say with this is that such spelling "errors" doesn't need to be changed, otherwise those two themes should get changed too. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 22:41, 10 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It's a minor detail. I'm sure anyone would associate "color" and "colour" with the same concept. Of course, my spellchecker is telling me that the correct spelling is "color" but I'm ignoring it --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 01:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=229864Talk:Touhou Wiki2011-11-10T22:34:04Z<p>Tsukihime: /* Colors/Colours */</p>
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=== Character Page Sections ===<br />
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I'm using the [[Reimu]] page as a baseline along with the new InfoBox layout.<br />
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Right now, the sections are divided like this;<br />
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:Main Description<br />
:(Contents Box here)<br />
:1 Concept<br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 Occupation<br />
::1.4 Relationships<br />
:2 Story<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Sources<br />
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Currently, I'm thinking of chopping out section 1.3 and merging it with the Main Description. I think that the first few paragraphs of the page should describe the character briefly, its personality and the character's status quo(Ex. Reimu is a shrine maiden who solves incidents). I find that very hard to do without repeating myself in the occupations section. The InfoBox also has a occupations section.<br />
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Also, I don't think that 1.4 fits well in "Concept". Relationships are not part of the character's concept; the name is, the appearance is, but not the relationships. Should we put this section somewhere else?<br />
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Many other pages are like this and currently the model for the InfoBox layout is like this. Should we change/standardize it?<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 04:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I feel that 1.4 would allow to see how the relationships evolve over time if it's under story.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Note that "concept" is all optional. If some information is too short and fits better in the intro that is good, I guess. And other optional subheadings are fine too, like for the ability. And subsubheadings could be used too (Refering to [[Yukari Yakumo]]). ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Right, I understand that.<br />
For example, not all characters have a special occupation([[Rin|Rin]]) or notable ability that has to be explained ([[Yuugi]]) <br />
It was more along the lines that the information, if they did have that stuff, should be presented the same way in the same places if they are there.<br />
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This is what I'm thinking...<br />
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(These borrow elements from Sefam and UTW and one other person I'm forgetting. Sorry.)<br />
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:Main Description<br />
A short Summary of Character on top of Contents box<br />
:(Contents Box here) <br />
:1 Concept <br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 (Personality) <br />
::1.4 (Some other thing) *Optional<br />
:2 Story (with links to their dialogue)<br />
:2.1 BackStory *Maybe Optional... (Reason being I'm not sure if all characters do have a backstory)<br />
::2.2 Relationships<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
::3.3 (Some other thing that doesn't fit under these two) *Optional<br />
::(Other notable thing goes here) *Optional<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Source<br />
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(The top is subject to change)<br />
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What I find missing often is a summary on top of the profile, dialogue, appearance is missing, things like that.<br />
So, tell me what you think!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, something like that, plus a maybe reference (youtube for example). But I think relationships should be part of "concept". ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 19:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry, too many pages to keep track of and I thought things were finally settled on. One, I suggested the optional Personality under Concept, in case that ever needs more elaboration than what's touched on in the opening summary. <br />
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Two, I don't believe Relationships makes much sense under "Concept", which along with what Nazeo said, implies to me that it should be used mostly for the bare bones of a character. I wonder if this is too rigid a thought. Obviously the other option is to forget this very literal definition, cram it all under Concept again and leave Story for that alone, especially since Story is so lengthy for some characters. <br />
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Also, thinking about the way I laid out some articles like [[Mononobe no Futo]] or [[Toyosatomimi no Miko]] when adding the historical/fictional/mythological basis, I realized Name and these descriptions usually go hand in hand in most articles, so I thought Name should be renamed Name and Basis or something (when Basis information is available, anyway).[[User:UTW|UTW]] 04:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Don't be sorry, I'm just making sure that the work on these don't conflict later.<br />
(Also, while I agree with what you said about the relationships. it was [[User:Sefam]] who stated that, not me, lol)<br />
I looked at your work and I agree with the set-up, (though I added Relationships as a later thing)<br />
For Basis, it translates back as concept, so I think that'll work for now unless it's like [[Rin]] who's occupation may have a reference to Buddhism and makes the character (which would be optional because other characters may or may not have have notable qualities like that in regards to Concept)<br />
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Sorry [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]], but IMO, relationships make more sense to me in the story section.<br />
Your reference ideas if they have a basis in history can be a subsection under Trivia but on top of Fandom.<br />
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What worries me is the position of the Backstory section.<br />
If it's on top, 1.it can possibly spoil the story, but if it's under it, 2. it may repeat what the story already stated (though a simple fix may correct that 3. is that it shouldn't be a sub and be italicized and crammed somehere)<br />
So far, I'm with # 2, anyone else has their own spin on this?<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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===Character infobox lists===<br />
> [[Mima]]. Tony did an revision ([http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Mima&oldid=217577]) with using "small" for text between the brackets for specifing the stage and stuff. It looks ok imo, though, for that a template should be created so a page isn's spammed with all "<nowiki><small></nowiki>" and <nowiki><br /></nowiki> stuff. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>(dutch)</sup> 16:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did this simply because of lack of space. I'm trying to find way reduce space without harm and is why I suggested 350. I don't know any other methods apart from <nowiki><small></nowiki>. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== May I add the lyrics to some songs? ==<br />
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Just got a copy of Funny Party in the Fog, and was going to add some of the lyrics, but then I saw the line that says "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!" So this is me asking permission to add the lyrics for some of the songs. I'm sure they're copyrighted somewhere, so I thought it would be safer to ask.<br />
--[[User:Flanchan|Flanchan]] 01:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding the lyrics for songs is fine for as long as you don't just copy and paste other people's translations without crediting them. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Heaven within the Youkai mountain? ==<br />
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I believe there should be a location category called "Worlds Above" (天空) in the "outside Gensokyou" section. The "underworld" has its own category, so I suppose there should be a category for everything above gensokyo as well. The netherworld/hakugyukuro/heaven could be moved to this section (I'm not sure if the netherworld required its own category...The Hakugyokuro could even be a subcategory within the "netherworld" page). I would also add in the senkai (仙界) there, which is where the bosses of th13 moved over to after leaving the mausoleum beneath Myouren temple. Maybe even the "Dragon Palace" (竜宮) in the thunderstorm clouds as well...though i'm not sure if there's enough facts for it to have a page of its own. <br />
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Heaven and the Youkai mountain isn't literally connected by a road. It's more like a summit where the open passage through the clouds above are visible.<br />
Right now according to the wiki, it looks as if the Yama sends you to the youkai mountain once you reach ascension... [[User:Tren|Tren]] 03:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Cirno Tokens==<br />
On [[User:Nazeo/List Of Users On Touhou Wiki|The List Of Users]] page, you can earn the much acclaimed Cirno Tokens in which you can wear proudly [[User:Nazeo/List_Of_Users_On_Touhou_Wiki#The_Community|here]].<br />
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For every 9 major contributions you make to wiki, you receive a wonderful cirno token!<br />
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You may exchange 9 cirno tokens for a cirno coin.<br />
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Each task on the community portal should be assigned a reward value between 1 and 5. This indicates how many cirno tokens you will receive upon completion of the task. 5 cirno tokens means you will receive a cirno coin. <br />
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You can find these point values on [[User:Nazeo/List Of Users On Touhou Wiki|The List Of Users]] page.<br />
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After you complete the task, award yourself the number of tokens assigned!<br />
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*Note, this is [[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime's]] idea, not mine.<br />
I'm just the lowly messenger. :3<br />
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Any questions please direct them to [[User talk:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] or [[User talk:Nazeo|Nazeo]] (though it's preferred to talk to Tsukihime before coming to me)<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Stubs ==<br />
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Now the "stub" template isn't very clear. Yes, the page isn't fully finished and defenitly needs revision, but I think the "stub" template could be expanded for a bit. So having different kinds of stubs, "Translation stubs", "Character stubs", "Game stubs" etc. My idea is that when you do something like <br />
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{{Stub|Game|(list of stuff that needs to be done)}}<br />
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The first "Game" will be categorized as "<nowiki>[[Category:Game stubs]]</nowiki><br />
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And the template will show a very small box with small text, and using the <nowiki><toggledisplay></nowiki> to show and hide the small list of tasks. And in the middle "This article about a game is a stub. If you can add to it in any way, please do so."<br />
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Sure, it could be put on the community portal, but it is useless to put every stub there. And for things like fangames it could be usefill. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 00:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Fan doujins by character? ==<br />
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I figured I would get some input before starting this. I figured that there are a lot of Touhou Doujins out there with alot of characters...I figured maybe we can put up a page and list the doujins on the character by appearance?<br />
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We don't have to go around digging for them...it's something to add to when we come across them. [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 21:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Incomplete Translations ==<br />
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There are plenty of pages for songs or literature that haven't been translated into English. Cage in Lunatic Runagate's seventh chapter is nearly entirely blank, the eighth chapter is also incomplete and the afterword has no English at all. That's just one example. I was wondering who has the knowledge to translate these sorts of things, as the pages seem very half-done without them. [[User:DarkMarxSoul|DarkMarxSoul]] 00:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10102.60.html Good luck there... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 00:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "Fake" games ==<br />
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I was just looking at [[fan-made_characters/Rinbokusan_Sasaki]] and it says she was made for a "fake" touhou game.<br />
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What is a "Fake" game? Perhaps a more descriptive term could be used to describe such games? I certainly wouldn't want players calling any games I create "fake" --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It's a game that pretends to be an official game by ZUN. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 19:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::The fake term is pretty much something inaccurate to describe such games... I don't know if it is refering to that it is a "fake" Touhou game or a "Fake" game, just... leave them as Touhou "clones" if anything... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 20:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Pool Touhou Wiki? ==<br />
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What is [http://pool.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page this]? What's it going to be? I discovered it when I tried to upload a new image... {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Just change pool. to en. --[[User:Hikaruxz|Hikaruxz]] 19:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:OK. Thanks for the info ^^ {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 21:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Game Navbox restructuring ==<br />
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I've been considering the (official) game navboxes, and I think we can organize them far better than they are right now.<br />
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My biggest concern at the moment is that we have a page/subpage structure named "translation". This is, in my opinion, a rather useless structure. The translation page itself is hardly even useful, and the most I've seen it do is link to the scenario pages. Nothing the navbox can't do, in any case. As for its use as a header, I'm pretty sure everyone who comes here expects to see a translation anyway, regardless of whether the header labels it explicitly or not. I think we can safely do away with it.<br />
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And so, in its place, I thought it would be far better to unify the groups under the headers "story", "gameplay" and "documentation" for most games. Prologue/extra story, scenario/extra scripts, characters and locations all belong under the Story subsection. Strategy and spellcards belong under Gameplay, and Documentation is for anything else within the game files, like the music comments and afterword. Not all games navboxes will look the same, of course, but I mean as a general guideline. Games like Shoot the Bullet that lack a story as such would retain the Translation structure for instance.<br />
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Some examples:<br />
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([[Template:Navbox TD|Ten Desires one implemented]])<br />
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{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox IaMP<br />
|title = [[Immaterial and Missing Power]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th075Cover.jpg|155px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation|Story]]</center><br />
|list1 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|list1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Reimu's Scenario|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Marisa's Scenario|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Sakuya's Scenario|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Alice's Scenario|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Patchouli's Scenario|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Youmu's Scenario|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Remilia's Scenario|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yuyuko's Scenario|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yukari's Scenario|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Suika's Scenario|Suika]]<br />
|group2 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list2 = [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Sakuya Izayoi]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] &bull; [[Patchouli Knowledge]] &bull; [[Youmu Konpaku]] &bull; [[Remilia Scarlet]] &bull; [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]] &bull; [[Yukari Yakumo]] &bull; [[Suika Ibuki]] &bull; [[Hong Meiling]]<br />
|group3 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Stages|Stages]]<br />
|list3 = [[Hakurei Shrine]] &bull; [[Forest of Magic]] &bull; [[Scarlet Devil Mansion]] (Lobby &bull; Library &bull; Clock Tower) &bull; [[Netherworld]] ([[Hakugyokurou]])<br />
}}<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Immaterial and Missing Power/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
|list2 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Sakuya Izayoi|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Alice Margatroid|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Patchouli Knowledge|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Youmu Konpaku|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Remilia Scarlet|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Yuyuko Saigyouji|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Yukari Yakumo|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Suika Ibuki|Suika]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Hong Meiling|Meiling]]<br />
|group2 = VS Mode Script<br />
|list2 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Reimu's Script|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Marisa's Script|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Sakuya's Script|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Alice's Script|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Patchouli's Script|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Youmu's Script|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Remilia's Script|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yuyuko's Script|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yukari's Script|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Suika's Script|Suika]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Meiling's Script|Meiling]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group3 = <center>Documentation</center><br />
|list3 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Afterword|Afterword]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Music|Music Comments]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power OST|Original Soundtrack]]<br />
}}<br />
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{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox IN<br />
|title = [[Imperishable Night]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th08cover.jpg|175px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Imperishable Night/Story|Story]]</center><br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|list1 = Boundary Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Magic Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Scarlet Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Ghost Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]])<br />
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|group2 = [[Imperishable_Night/Translation/Afterword|Extra Story]]<br />
|list2 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Extra|Boundary Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Extra|Magic Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Extra|Scarlet Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Extra|Ghost Team]]<br />
|group3 = [[Imperishable Night/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list3 = [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Sakuya Izayoi]] &bull; [[Youmu Konpaku]] &bull; [[Yukari Yakumo]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] &bull; [[Remilia Scarlet]] &bull; [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]] &bull; [[Wriggle Nightbug]] &bull; [[Mystia Lorelei]] &bull; [[Keine Kamishirasawa]] &bull; [[Tewi Inaba]] &bull; [[Reisen Udongein Inaba]] &bull; [[Eirin Yagokoro]] &bull; [[Kaguya Houraisan]] &bull; [[Fujiwara no Mokou]]<br />
|group4 = Locations<br />
|list4 = [[Human Village]] &bull; [[Bamboo Forest of the Lost]] &bull; [[Eientei]] &bull; [[Moon]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Imperishable Night/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
|list2 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = <br />
|list1 = [[Imperishable Night/Strategy|Strategy]] &bull; [[High scores#Imperishable Night world records ~ "B" route & Extra only (東方永夜抄の全一記録 ~ Final-BとEX限定)|High Scores]] &bull; [[:Category:Imperishable Night Replays|Replays]]<br />
|group2 = [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list2 = [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 1|Stage 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 2|Stage 2]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 3|Stage 3]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 4A|Stage 4A Uncanny]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 4B|Stage 4B Powerful]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 5|Stage 5]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 6A|Stage 6A]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 6B|Stage 6B]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Extra|Extra]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Last Word|Last Word]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group3 = <center>Documentation</center><br />
|list3 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Afterword|Afterword]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Music|Music]]<br />
}}<br />
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Are there any major objections to doing this? And I mean beyond the amount of work :P If it comes down to it I can handle the worst of it. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 23:35, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I absolotly, and I mean seriously thinking about it, I absolotly have no objection to this :P It looks perfecly fine to me cause I was thinking the same thing before I seen the abouve you wrote. I'd say go ahead and do those useful edits :D {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 00:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes. Please, and thank you. I've hated "Translation" ever since we started the subpage setup and the navboxes as they are. If you can combine the sections in a way that makes it logical and easier to navigate, that'd be awesome. Don't forget to move the pages around too, to their proper subpage sections. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 05:12, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:So..... Momiji is planning to do away the "Translation" subpage.... hmm... Story under "Story" subpage is it? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 05:32, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It would make sense, although having "Translation" in the first place was the result of the original translation of the raw text. I always thought that having the majority of the game text, story and whatnot, being under "Translation" felt awkward and kind've inappropriate. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 05:40, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Planned, next week to do the moving, with interwiki link fix - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 06:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: Great! Good to hear I wasn't the only "Translation" hater. :V For the subpages, I thought Game/Story/Prologue, Game/Story/Scenario, Game/Story/Characters etc etc was the best structure. I don't necessarily think we should move stuff like Spell Cards under the Gameplay subpage though, just like we don't have Music under Documentation, so it'd just be the story stuff that gets moved around.<br />
: But by planned for next week, do you mean only the moving? I could reorganize the navboxes for now. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 10:39, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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What to do with the Translation page for like [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation|UFO]] where there are other documentation on it? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: We could rename those to "Miscellaneous Translations" (or something) and stick them under documentation, perhaps? --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 15:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Alright, I'll be starting on the Ten Desires navbox and subpages move now. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 11:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did say we start this weekend? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: You said next week so I wasn't sure... ^^; But Ten Desires internal stuff is done, so all that's left is stuff that links to redirects, which I'll take care of now too. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah, so the "Translation" subpage will exist. Ok then those miscellaneous translations could be put in there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:27, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: Aye, and we can put it on the documentation line in the navbox. But for now the Ten Desires translation page is really useless so I didn't put it (yet?). --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I see. I will move those "miscaleanneous translations" to that page. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Internal link fix: done, Interwiki link fix: done, useless redirect delete: done - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It looks okay to me and I think it could be done with the other game pages. Unless we are waiting for something? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes I'm waiting ''marked for move'' to avoid the useless redirect - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 13:06, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I want to do Touhou Hisoutensoku, but I am not fully sure about some stuff.<br />
{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox HSTS<br />
|title = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th123.jpg|175px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Story|Story]]</center><br />
|list1 = <br />
{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|list1 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|group2 = Scenario<br />
|list2 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Scenario|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Cirno's Scenario|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Meiling's Scenario|Meiling]]<br />
|group3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list3 = [[Sanae Kochiya]] &bull; [[Cirno]] &bull; [[Hong Meiling]] &bull; [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Utsuho Reiuji]] &bull; [[Suwako Moriya]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] ([[Goliath Doll]]) &bull; [[Patchouli Knowledge]] &bull; [[Unnamed Giant Catfish]] &bull; ([[Hisoutensoku]] &bull; [[Taisui Xingjun]])<br />
|group4 = Locations<br />
|list4 = [[Misty Lake]] &bull; [[Underground Geyser Center]] &bull; [[Nuclear Furnace]] &bull; [[Scarlet Devil Mansion]] &bull; [[Forest of Magic]]<br />
}}<br />
|group2 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
|list2 =<br />
{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|list1 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay/Weather|Weather]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay/Stages|Stages]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Player System cards|System Cards]]<br />
|group2 = Skill and [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list2 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Sakuya Izayoi|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Alice Margatroid|Alice]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Patchouli Knowledge|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Youmu Konpaku|Youmu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Remilia Scarlet|Remilia]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Yuyuko Saigyouji|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Yukari Yakumo|Yukari]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Suika Ibuki|Suika]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Reisen Udongein Inaba|Reisen]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Aya Shameimaru|Aya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Komachi Onozuka|Komachi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Iku Nagae|Iku]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Sanae Kochiya|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Cirno|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Hong Meiling|Meiling]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Utsuho Reiuji|Utsuho]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Suwako Moriya|Suwako]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Unnamed Giant Catfish|Catfish]]<br />
|group3 = <center>Versus Dialogue</center><br />
|list3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Reimu's Script|Reimu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Marisa's Script|Marisa]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sakuya's Script|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Alice's Script|Alice]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Patchouli's Script|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Youmu's Script|Youmu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Remilia's Script|Remilia]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Yuyuko's Script|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Yukari's Script|Yukari]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Suika's Script|Suika]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Reisen's Script|Reisen]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Aya's Script|Aya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Komachi's Script|Komachi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Iku's Script|Iku]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Tenshi's Script|Tenshi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Script|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Cirno's Script|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Meiling's Script|Meiling]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Utsuho's Script|Utsuho]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Suwako's Script|Suwako]]<br />
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|group3 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Music|Music]]</center><br />
|list3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST|Original Soundtrack]] ([[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST/ZUN's Comments|ZUN's comments]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST/Uni Akiyama's Comments|Uni Akiyama's comments]])<br />
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I cant place the versus dialogue anywhere then there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:What's wrong with it been under gameplay? Should it be somewhere else? {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 15:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::There is possible, seems logic. Though, I am not going to add it immediately. Waiting for more opinions. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 15:37, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Another thing I am not sure about is the subpages. Obviously the story scenarios goes under story, and some goes for the prologue. But what about the versus dialogue script? Still note sure to put those under gameplay. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 13:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Should be under Story, since mostly dialogues related to story, although only versus dialog. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 15:25, 19 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::I see, it seems okay if it is there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe adding a "terms" at the story, where stuff like "divine spirits" and "Taoism" could go at Ten Desires, for example. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Official speculation ==<br />
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Saw this term. What makes speculation official? When ZUN goes "Hmm yes that may be the case I guess though I never explicitly wrote that"? --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 05:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Dunno that it was even used. Given that the term "official" is related to ZUN, if ZUN says something about his work then it's fact, not a speculation. Why would he make speculations on his own work? [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 05:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::On second thought maybe the person using the term mistook "fan speculation" or downright his/her own speculation for that. [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 05:49, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::[http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Sakuya_Izayoi&curid=725&diff=223099&oldid=221813] It was in-universe speculation, taken from PMiSS. [[User:Morrolan|Morrolan]] 06:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Yea, it's in-universe speculation. Sorry, I thought that was clear from the context. That said, ZUN does speculate on his own things every once in a while (many characters' official profiles include the words "Probably", etc), but normally as a joke or for small stuff that falls under the [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShrugOfGod|"Shrug of God"] category. [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 14:01, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Deleting old talks ==<br />
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So how did Darkslime get away with [http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Reimu_Hakurei&diff=prev&oldid=208605 this one]? :/ {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:02, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Voting for ''de'' link change==<br />
The current '''de''' address: <nowiki>http://de.touhouwiki.net/</nowiki><br />
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The "new" '''de''' address: <nowiki>http://wiki.touhou-forum.de/</nowiki><br />
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Please give some suggestion and opinion regarding existing '''de''' wiki, thanks. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Their front page is not up to date like ours is all I'm saying. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 12:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Their front page not necessary update as en, the same as [[:zh:|''zh'']] and [[:ru:|''ru'']] also using different main page compared to ''en'' - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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How will it affect the curent de interwikis? I think if it relieves some server stress it's good to have them host it on their forum server. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:28, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Rest assure, interwiki link won't affected much - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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A sitenotice has been put up in current '''de''' wiki. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 13:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I'm ok with the link change. -[[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 16:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Ditto. It does not affect interwiki links [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 18:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It'll act in much the same way as the French Touhou Wiki. I don't see the problem with that, so long as the users of the .de wiki are in favour of it. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 18:19, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It's already in the process, I'm just waiting for K to update the mainpage to change stuff. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 19:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Feedback on the red section ying-yangs. ==<br />
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Just a little head up concerning the new red ying-yangs preceding section headers now.<br />
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I like them, they add a layer of style to the wiki, but I think the red is a bit too much. On my monitor, it really clashes with the mix of black(text), white(background) and blue/purple(hyperlinks). It could use a bit of a tone down in color. What does everyone else think? Also, they don't seem to be vertically centered with the text, is that intended?<br />
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--[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 16:06, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I think it's awesome just the way it is :D [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 17:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::A deeper color of red could be fine as well, but I'm fine with the way it is right now. [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 17:47, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: I also believe they're too bright. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 17:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I to think the red is a bit too much. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Concur. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 19:29, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I have actually been thinking of changing the yin-yangs to a blue color to match the theme better, especially given that we made the underline for h2s dark blue. How does this look? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3115610/blueicons.png [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] 14:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, that does look much better than black-white and red-white. I say go for it. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 14:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I think that blue is a little to deep. It can be a slightly more softer blue so it is more light blue, or adding more gray and white so it is a little lighter. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:58, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I like the blue myself.<br />
Reason being as [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] said, it does indeed match the theme better.<br />
If we made skins in the far future, then this would be a great idea to have different colored orbs, but that is a different matter entirely...<br />
As for the shade, I'm indifferent to it.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 20:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki pages and English patches ==<br />
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Game transcripts and spellcard names from the wiki (and maybe some other things, like character titles) often don't correspond to actual in-game text from English patches. Is it a problem (and should be fixed), or not?<br /><br />
[[User:OneMore|OneMore]] 15:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:"Just because a translation appears in a game patch does not make it 100% correct. Translations do change and become more accurate over time. Games may also have inherent limitations such as maximum length." So it means that it should stay at it is now, unless someone does have another opinion on certain translations. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 15:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, translations are always getting better, especially around here. The amount of errors/oversights I find in translations that are put up soon after a game comes out is rather staggering, but I don't have enough time to really go over them. Also, the EoSD translation is so outdated that it could actually use a whole new english patch at this point. [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] 02:08, 25 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay. [[User:OneMore|OneMore]] 08:02, 25 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::: Are the translation patches done by a single circle or are they made by several different people from all over? If it is made by a single person, I could contact him/her to help out with updated translation. [[User:Tren|Tren]] 18:15, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Some of them are by a single person, but some haven't been active for a long while and is why most of the patches haven't been updated to this wiki's standards... {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 19:03, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Obviously not by one single person. As far as I know some people from [http://www.gensokyo.org Gensokyo.org] make the translation patch, with translation from this wiki. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 19:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hmm... The ones I suspect were by a single person are HRtP, SoEW, EoSD, PCB and IN. I could be wrong, so I don't want to get into a little argument lol :) {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 20:34, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Colors/Colours ==<br />
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I am a little confused about some stuff. A while ago, Nazeo did some spellcheck edits and part of that was changing "Colour" to "color" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Undefined_Fantastic_Object/Gameplay&diff=prev&oldid=228676). Now the edits aren't bad or something, but something came to my mind.<br />
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Two of Marisa's themes, "Love-Coloured Magic" and "Love-colored Master Spark". Both has "love-colo(u)red" in it's name, but why does both have different spellings? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:20, 9 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I would assume neither themes had english titles and consequently an american and someone-not-american (british, canadian, ... ) translated it as such, and therefore now you have two versions of "colored". --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 06:39, 10 November 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=229807Talk:Touhou Wiki2011-11-10T06:39:03Z<p>Tsukihime: /* Colors/Colours */</p>
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=== Character Page Sections ===<br />
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I'm using the [[Reimu]] page as a baseline along with the new InfoBox layout.<br />
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Right now, the sections are divided like this;<br />
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:Main Description<br />
:(Contents Box here)<br />
:1 Concept<br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 Occupation<br />
::1.4 Relationships<br />
:2 Story<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Sources<br />
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Currently, I'm thinking of chopping out section 1.3 and merging it with the Main Description. I think that the first few paragraphs of the page should describe the character briefly, its personality and the character's status quo(Ex. Reimu is a shrine maiden who solves incidents). I find that very hard to do without repeating myself in the occupations section. The InfoBox also has a occupations section.<br />
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Also, I don't think that 1.4 fits well in "Concept". Relationships are not part of the character's concept; the name is, the appearance is, but not the relationships. Should we put this section somewhere else?<br />
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Many other pages are like this and currently the model for the InfoBox layout is like this. Should we change/standardize it?<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 04:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I feel that 1.4 would allow to see how the relationships evolve over time if it's under story.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Note that "concept" is all optional. If some information is too short and fits better in the intro that is good, I guess. And other optional subheadings are fine too, like for the ability. And subsubheadings could be used too (Refering to [[Yukari Yakumo]]). ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Right, I understand that.<br />
For example, not all characters have a special occupation([[Rin|Rin]]) or notable ability that has to be explained ([[Yuugi]]) <br />
It was more along the lines that the information, if they did have that stuff, should be presented the same way in the same places if they are there.<br />
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This is what I'm thinking...<br />
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(These borrow elements from Sefam and UTW and one other person I'm forgetting. Sorry.)<br />
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:Main Description<br />
A short Summary of Character on top of Contents box<br />
:(Contents Box here) <br />
:1 Concept <br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 (Personality) <br />
::1.4 (Some other thing) *Optional<br />
:2 Story (with links to their dialogue)<br />
:2.1 BackStory *Maybe Optional... (Reason being I'm not sure if all characters do have a backstory)<br />
::2.2 Relationships<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
::3.3 (Some other thing that doesn't fit under these two) *Optional<br />
::(Other notable thing goes here) *Optional<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Source<br />
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(The top is subject to change)<br />
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What I find missing often is a summary on top of the profile, dialogue, appearance is missing, things like that.<br />
So, tell me what you think!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, something like that, plus a maybe reference (youtube for example). But I think relationships should be part of "concept". ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 19:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry, too many pages to keep track of and I thought things were finally settled on. One, I suggested the optional Personality under Concept, in case that ever needs more elaboration than what's touched on in the opening summary. <br />
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Two, I don't believe Relationships makes much sense under "Concept", which along with what Nazeo said, implies to me that it should be used mostly for the bare bones of a character. I wonder if this is too rigid a thought. Obviously the other option is to forget this very literal definition, cram it all under Concept again and leave Story for that alone, especially since Story is so lengthy for some characters. <br />
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Also, thinking about the way I laid out some articles like [[Mononobe no Futo]] or [[Toyosatomimi no Miko]] when adding the historical/fictional/mythological basis, I realized Name and these descriptions usually go hand in hand in most articles, so I thought Name should be renamed Name and Basis or something (when Basis information is available, anyway).[[User:UTW|UTW]] 04:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Don't be sorry, I'm just making sure that the work on these don't conflict later.<br />
(Also, while I agree with what you said about the relationships. it was [[User:Sefam]] who stated that, not me, lol)<br />
I looked at your work and I agree with the set-up, (though I added Relationships as a later thing)<br />
For Basis, it translates back as concept, so I think that'll work for now unless it's like [[Rin]] who's occupation may have a reference to Buddhism and makes the character (which would be optional because other characters may or may not have have notable qualities like that in regards to Concept)<br />
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Sorry [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]], but IMO, relationships make more sense to me in the story section.<br />
Your reference ideas if they have a basis in history can be a subsection under Trivia but on top of Fandom.<br />
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What worries me is the position of the Backstory section.<br />
If it's on top, 1.it can possibly spoil the story, but if it's under it, 2. it may repeat what the story already stated (though a simple fix may correct that 3. is that it shouldn't be a sub and be italicized and crammed somehere)<br />
So far, I'm with # 2, anyone else has their own spin on this?<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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===Character infobox lists===<br />
> [[Mima]]. Tony did an revision ([http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Mima&oldid=217577]) with using "small" for text between the brackets for specifing the stage and stuff. It looks ok imo, though, for that a template should be created so a page isn's spammed with all "<nowiki><small></nowiki>" and <nowiki><br /></nowiki> stuff. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>(dutch)</sup> 16:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did this simply because of lack of space. I'm trying to find way reduce space without harm and is why I suggested 350. I don't know any other methods apart from <nowiki><small></nowiki>. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== May I add the lyrics to some songs? ==<br />
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Just got a copy of Funny Party in the Fog, and was going to add some of the lyrics, but then I saw the line that says "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!" So this is me asking permission to add the lyrics for some of the songs. I'm sure they're copyrighted somewhere, so I thought it would be safer to ask.<br />
--[[User:Flanchan|Flanchan]] 01:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding the lyrics for songs is fine for as long as you don't just copy and paste other people's translations without crediting them. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Heaven within the Youkai mountain? ==<br />
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I believe there should be a location category called "Worlds Above" (天空) in the "outside Gensokyou" section. The "underworld" has its own category, so I suppose there should be a category for everything above gensokyo as well. The netherworld/hakugyukuro/heaven could be moved to this section (I'm not sure if the netherworld required its own category...The Hakugyokuro could even be a subcategory within the "netherworld" page). I would also add in the senkai (仙界) there, which is where the bosses of th13 moved over to after leaving the mausoleum beneath Myouren temple. Maybe even the "Dragon Palace" (竜宮) in the thunderstorm clouds as well...though i'm not sure if there's enough facts for it to have a page of its own. <br />
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Heaven and the Youkai mountain isn't literally connected by a road. It's more like a summit where the open passage through the clouds above are visible.<br />
Right now according to the wiki, it looks as if the Yama sends you to the youkai mountain once you reach ascension... [[User:Tren|Tren]] 03:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Stubs ==<br />
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Now the "stub" template isn't very clear. Yes, the page isn't fully finished and defenitly needs revision, but I think the "stub" template could be expanded for a bit. So having different kinds of stubs, "Translation stubs", "Character stubs", "Game stubs" etc. My idea is that when you do something like <br />
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{{Stub|Game|(list of stuff that needs to be done)}}<br />
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The first "Game" will be categorized as "<nowiki>[[Category:Game stubs]]</nowiki><br />
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And the template will show a very small box with small text, and using the <nowiki><toggledisplay></nowiki> to show and hide the small list of tasks. And in the middle "This article about a game is a stub. If you can add to it in any way, please do so."<br />
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Sure, it could be put on the community portal, but it is useless to put every stub there. And for things like fangames it could be usefill. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 00:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Fan doujins by character? ==<br />
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I figured I would get some input before starting this. I figured that there are a lot of Touhou Doujins out there with alot of characters...I figured maybe we can put up a page and list the doujins on the character by appearance?<br />
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We don't have to go around digging for them...it's something to add to when we come across them. [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 21:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Incomplete Translations ==<br />
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There are plenty of pages for songs or literature that haven't been translated into English. Cage in Lunatic Runagate's seventh chapter is nearly entirely blank, the eighth chapter is also incomplete and the afterword has no English at all. That's just one example. I was wondering who has the knowledge to translate these sorts of things, as the pages seem very half-done without them. [[User:DarkMarxSoul|DarkMarxSoul]] 00:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10102.60.html Good luck there... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 00:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "Fake" games ==<br />
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I was just looking at [[fan-made_characters/Rinbokusan_Sasaki]] and it says she was made for a "fake" touhou game.<br />
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What is a "Fake" game? Perhaps a more descriptive term could be used to describe such games? I certainly wouldn't want players calling any games I create "fake" --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It's a game that pretends to be an official game by ZUN. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 19:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::The fake term is pretty much something inaccurate to describe such games... I don't know if it is refering to that it is a "fake" Touhou game or a "Fake" game, just... leave them as Touhou "clones" if anything... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 20:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Pool Touhou Wiki? ==<br />
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What is [http://pool.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page this]? What's it going to be? I discovered it when I tried to upload a new image... {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Just change pool. to en. --[[User:Hikaruxz|Hikaruxz]] 19:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:OK. Thanks for the info ^^ {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 21:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Game Navbox restructuring ==<br />
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I've been considering the (official) game navboxes, and I think we can organize them far better than they are right now.<br />
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My biggest concern at the moment is that we have a page/subpage structure named "translation". This is, in my opinion, a rather useless structure. The translation page itself is hardly even useful, and the most I've seen it do is link to the scenario pages. Nothing the navbox can't do, in any case. As for its use as a header, I'm pretty sure everyone who comes here expects to see a translation anyway, regardless of whether the header labels it explicitly or not. I think we can safely do away with it.<br />
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And so, in its place, I thought it would be far better to unify the groups under the headers "story", "gameplay" and "documentation" for most games. Prologue/extra story, scenario/extra scripts, characters and locations all belong under the Story subsection. Strategy and spellcards belong under Gameplay, and Documentation is for anything else within the game files, like the music comments and afterword. Not all games navboxes will look the same, of course, but I mean as a general guideline. Games like Shoot the Bullet that lack a story as such would retain the Translation structure for instance.<br />
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Some examples:<br />
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([[Template:Navbox TD|Ten Desires one implemented]])<br />
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{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox IaMP<br />
|title = [[Immaterial and Missing Power]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th075Cover.jpg|155px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation|Story]]</center><br />
|list1 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|list1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Reimu's Scenario|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Marisa's Scenario|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Sakuya's Scenario|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Alice's Scenario|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Patchouli's Scenario|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Youmu's Scenario|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Remilia's Scenario|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yuyuko's Scenario|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yukari's Scenario|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Suika's Scenario|Suika]]<br />
|group2 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list2 = [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Sakuya Izayoi]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] &bull; [[Patchouli Knowledge]] &bull; [[Youmu Konpaku]] &bull; [[Remilia Scarlet]] &bull; [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]] &bull; [[Yukari Yakumo]] &bull; [[Suika Ibuki]] &bull; [[Hong Meiling]]<br />
|group3 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Stages|Stages]]<br />
|list3 = [[Hakurei Shrine]] &bull; [[Forest of Magic]] &bull; [[Scarlet Devil Mansion]] (Lobby &bull; Library &bull; Clock Tower) &bull; [[Netherworld]] ([[Hakugyokurou]])<br />
}}<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Immaterial and Missing Power/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
|list2 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Sakuya Izayoi|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Alice Margatroid|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Patchouli Knowledge|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Youmu Konpaku|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Remilia Scarlet|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Yuyuko Saigyouji|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Yukari Yakumo|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Suika Ibuki|Suika]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Hong Meiling|Meiling]]<br />
|group2 = VS Mode Script<br />
|list2 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Reimu's Script|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Marisa's Script|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Sakuya's Script|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Alice's Script|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Patchouli's Script|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Youmu's Script|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Remilia's Script|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yuyuko's Script|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yukari's Script|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Suika's Script|Suika]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Meiling's Script|Meiling]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group3 = <center>Documentation</center><br />
|list3 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Afterword|Afterword]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Music|Music Comments]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power OST|Original Soundtrack]]<br />
}}<br />
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{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox IN<br />
|title = [[Imperishable Night]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th08cover.jpg|175px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Imperishable Night/Story|Story]]</center><br />
|list1 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|list1 = Boundary Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Magic Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Scarlet Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Ghost Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]])<br />
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|group2 = [[Imperishable_Night/Translation/Afterword|Extra Story]]<br />
|list2 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Extra|Boundary Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Extra|Magic Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Extra|Scarlet Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Extra|Ghost Team]]<br />
|group3 = [[Imperishable Night/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list3 = [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Sakuya Izayoi]] &bull; [[Youmu Konpaku]] &bull; [[Yukari Yakumo]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] &bull; [[Remilia Scarlet]] &bull; [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]] &bull; [[Wriggle Nightbug]] &bull; [[Mystia Lorelei]] &bull; [[Keine Kamishirasawa]] &bull; [[Tewi Inaba]] &bull; [[Reisen Udongein Inaba]] &bull; [[Eirin Yagokoro]] &bull; [[Kaguya Houraisan]] &bull; [[Fujiwara no Mokou]]<br />
|group4 = Locations<br />
|list4 = [[Human Village]] &bull; [[Bamboo Forest of the Lost]] &bull; [[Eientei]] &bull; [[Moon]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Imperishable Night/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
|list2 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = <br />
|list1 = [[Imperishable Night/Strategy|Strategy]] &bull; [[High scores#Imperishable Night world records ~ "B" route & Extra only (東方永夜抄の全一記録 ~ Final-BとEX限定)|High Scores]] &bull; [[:Category:Imperishable Night Replays|Replays]]<br />
|group2 = [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list2 = [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 1|Stage 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 2|Stage 2]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 3|Stage 3]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 4A|Stage 4A Uncanny]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 4B|Stage 4B Powerful]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 5|Stage 5]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 6A|Stage 6A]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 6B|Stage 6B]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Extra|Extra]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Last Word|Last Word]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group3 = <center>Documentation</center><br />
|list3 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Afterword|Afterword]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Music|Music]]<br />
}}<br />
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Are there any major objections to doing this? And I mean beyond the amount of work :P If it comes down to it I can handle the worst of it. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 23:35, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I absolotly, and I mean seriously thinking about it, I absolotly have no objection to this :P It looks perfecly fine to me cause I was thinking the same thing before I seen the abouve you wrote. I'd say go ahead and do those useful edits :D {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 00:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes. Please, and thank you. I've hated "Translation" ever since we started the subpage setup and the navboxes as they are. If you can combine the sections in a way that makes it logical and easier to navigate, that'd be awesome. Don't forget to move the pages around too, to their proper subpage sections. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 05:12, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:So..... Momiji is planning to do away the "Translation" subpage.... hmm... Story under "Story" subpage is it? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 05:32, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It would make sense, although having "Translation" in the first place was the result of the original translation of the raw text. I always thought that having the majority of the game text, story and whatnot, being under "Translation" felt awkward and kind've inappropriate. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 05:40, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Planned, next week to do the moving, with interwiki link fix - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 06:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: Great! Good to hear I wasn't the only "Translation" hater. :V For the subpages, I thought Game/Story/Prologue, Game/Story/Scenario, Game/Story/Characters etc etc was the best structure. I don't necessarily think we should move stuff like Spell Cards under the Gameplay subpage though, just like we don't have Music under Documentation, so it'd just be the story stuff that gets moved around.<br />
: But by planned for next week, do you mean only the moving? I could reorganize the navboxes for now. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 10:39, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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What to do with the Translation page for like [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation|UFO]] where there are other documentation on it? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: We could rename those to "Miscellaneous Translations" (or something) and stick them under documentation, perhaps? --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 15:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Alright, I'll be starting on the Ten Desires navbox and subpages move now. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 11:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did say we start this weekend? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: You said next week so I wasn't sure... ^^; But Ten Desires internal stuff is done, so all that's left is stuff that links to redirects, which I'll take care of now too. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah, so the "Translation" subpage will exist. Ok then those miscellaneous translations could be put in there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:27, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: Aye, and we can put it on the documentation line in the navbox. But for now the Ten Desires translation page is really useless so I didn't put it (yet?). --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I see. I will move those "miscaleanneous translations" to that page. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Internal link fix: done, Interwiki link fix: done, useless redirect delete: done - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It looks okay to me and I think it could be done with the other game pages. Unless we are waiting for something? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes I'm waiting ''marked for move'' to avoid the useless redirect - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 13:06, 7 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I want to do Touhou Hisoutensoku, but I am not fully sure about some stuff.<br />
{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox HSTS<br />
|title = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th123.jpg|175px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Story|Story]]</center><br />
|list1 = <br />
{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|list1 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|group2 = Scenario<br />
|list2 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Scenario|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Cirno's Scenario|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Meiling's Scenario|Meiling]]<br />
|group3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list3 = [[Sanae Kochiya]] &bull; [[Cirno]] &bull; [[Hong Meiling]] &bull; [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Utsuho Reiuji]] &bull; [[Suwako Moriya]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] ([[Goliath Doll]]) &bull; [[Patchouli Knowledge]] &bull; [[Unnamed Giant Catfish]] &bull; ([[Hisoutensoku]] &bull; [[Taisui Xingjun]])<br />
|group4 = Locations<br />
|list4 = [[Misty Lake]] &bull; [[Underground Geyser Center]] &bull; [[Nuclear Furnace]] &bull; [[Scarlet Devil Mansion]] &bull; [[Forest of Magic]]<br />
}}<br />
|group2 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
|list2 =<br />
{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|list1 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay/Weather|Weather]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Gameplay/Stages|Stages]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Player System cards|System Cards]]<br />
|group2 = Skill and [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list2 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Sakuya Izayoi|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Alice Margatroid|Alice]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Patchouli Knowledge|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Youmu Konpaku|Youmu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Remilia Scarlet|Remilia]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Yuyuko Saigyouji|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Yukari Yakumo|Yukari]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Suika Ibuki|Suika]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Reisen Udongein Inaba|Reisen]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Aya Shameimaru|Aya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Komachi Onozuka|Komachi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Iku Nagae|Iku]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Sanae Kochiya|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Cirno|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Hong Meiling|Meiling]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Utsuho Reiuji|Utsuho]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Suwako Moriya|Suwako]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Unnamed Giant Catfish|Catfish]]<br />
|group3 = <center>Versus Dialogue</center><br />
|list3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Reimu's Script|Reimu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Marisa's Script|Marisa]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sakuya's Script|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Alice's Script|Alice]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Patchouli's Script|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Youmu's Script|Youmu]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Remilia's Script|Remilia]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Yuyuko's Script|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Yukari's Script|Yukari]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Suika's Script|Suika]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Reisen's Script|Reisen]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Aya's Script|Aya]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Komachi's Script|Komachi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Iku's Script|Iku]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Tenshi's Script|Tenshi]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Script|Sanae]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Cirno's Script|Cirno]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Meiling's Script|Meiling]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Utsuho's Script|Utsuho]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Suwako's Script|Suwako]]<br />
}}<br />
|group3 = <center>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Music|Music]]</center><br />
|list3 = [[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST|Original Soundtrack]] ([[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST/ZUN's Comments|ZUN's comments]] &bull; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST/Uni Akiyama's Comments|Uni Akiyama's comments]])<br />
}}<br />
I cant place the versus dialogue anywhere then there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:What's wrong with it been under gameplay? Should it be somewhere else? {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 15:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::There is possible, seems logic. Though, I am not going to add it immediately. Waiting for more opinions. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 15:37, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Another thing I am not sure about is the subpages. Obviously the story scenarios goes under story, and some goes for the prologue. But what about the versus dialogue script? Still note sure to put those under gameplay. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 13:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Should be under Story, since mostly dialogues related to story, although only versus dialog. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 15:25, 19 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::I see, it seems okay if it is there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe adding a "terms" at the story, where stuff like "divine spirits" and "Taoism" could go at Ten Desires, for example. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Official speculation ==<br />
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Saw this term. What makes speculation official? When ZUN goes "Hmm yes that may be the case I guess though I never explicitly wrote that"? --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 05:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Dunno that it was even used. Given that the term "official" is related to ZUN, if ZUN says something about his work then it's fact, not a speculation. Why would he make speculations on his own work? [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 05:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::On second thought maybe the person using the term mistook "fan speculation" or downright his/her own speculation for that. [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 05:49, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::[http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Sakuya_Izayoi&curid=725&diff=223099&oldid=221813] It was in-universe speculation, taken from PMiSS. [[User:Morrolan|Morrolan]] 06:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Yea, it's in-universe speculation. Sorry, I thought that was clear from the context. That said, ZUN does speculate on his own things every once in a while (many characters' official profiles include the words "Probably", etc), but normally as a joke or for small stuff that falls under the [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShrugOfGod|"Shrug of God"] category. [[User:TiamatRoar|TiamatRoar]] 14:01, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Deleting old talks ==<br />
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So how did Darkslime get away with [http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Reimu_Hakurei&diff=prev&oldid=208605 this one]? :/ {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:02, 8 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Voting for ''de'' link change==<br />
The current '''de''' address: <nowiki>http://de.touhouwiki.net/</nowiki><br />
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The "new" '''de''' address: <nowiki>http://wiki.touhou-forum.de/</nowiki><br />
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Please give some suggestion and opinion regarding existing '''de''' wiki, thanks. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Their front page is not up to date like ours is all I'm saying. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 12:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Their front page not necessary update as en, the same as [[:zh:|''zh'']] and [[:ru:|''ru'']] also using different main page compared to ''en'' - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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How will it affect the curent de interwikis? I think if it relieves some server stress it's good to have them host it on their forum server. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:28, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Rest assure, interwiki link won't affected much - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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A sitenotice has been put up in current '''de''' wiki. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 13:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I'm ok with the link change. -[[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 16:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Ditto. It does not affect interwiki links [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 18:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It'll act in much the same way as the French Touhou Wiki. I don't see the problem with that, so long as the users of the .de wiki are in favour of it. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 18:19, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It's already in the process, I'm just waiting for K to update the mainpage to change stuff. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 19:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Feedback on the red section ying-yangs. ==<br />
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Just a little head up concerning the new red ying-yangs preceding section headers now.<br />
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I like them, they add a layer of style to the wiki, but I think the red is a bit too much. On my monitor, it really clashes with the mix of black(text), white(background) and blue/purple(hyperlinks). It could use a bit of a tone down in color. What does everyone else think? Also, they don't seem to be vertically centered with the text, is that intended?<br />
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--[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 16:06, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I think it's awesome just the way it is :D [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 17:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::A deeper color of red could be fine as well, but I'm fine with the way it is right now. [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 17:47, 15 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: I also believe they're too bright. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 17:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I to think the red is a bit too much. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Concur. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 19:29, 18 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I have actually been thinking of changing the yin-yangs to a blue color to match the theme better, especially given that we made the underline for h2s dark blue. How does this look? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3115610/blueicons.png [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] 14:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, that does look much better than black-white and red-white. I say go for it. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 14:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I think that blue is a little to deep. It can be a slightly more softer blue so it is more light blue, or adding more gray and white so it is a little lighter. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:58, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I like the blue myself.<br />
Reason being as [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] said, it does indeed match the theme better.<br />
If we made skins in the far future, then this would be a great idea to have different colored orbs, but that is a different matter entirely...<br />
As for the shade, I'm indifferent to it.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 20:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Wiki pages and English patches ==<br />
<br />
Game transcripts and spellcard names from the wiki (and maybe some other things, like character titles) often don't correspond to actual in-game text from English patches. Is it a problem (and should be fixed), or not?<br /><br />
[[User:OneMore|OneMore]] 15:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:"Just because a translation appears in a game patch does not make it 100% correct. Translations do change and become more accurate over time. Games may also have inherent limitations such as maximum length." So it means that it should stay at it is now, unless someone does have another opinion on certain translations. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 15:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, translations are always getting better, especially around here. The amount of errors/oversights I find in translations that are put up soon after a game comes out is rather staggering, but I don't have enough time to really go over them. Also, the EoSD translation is so outdated that it could actually use a whole new english patch at this point. [[User:Darkslime|Darkslime]] 02:08, 25 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Okay. [[User:OneMore|OneMore]] 08:02, 25 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::: Are the translation patches done by a single circle or are they made by several different people from all over? If it is made by a single person, I could contact him/her to help out with updated translation. [[User:Tren|Tren]] 18:15, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Some of them are by a single person, but some haven't been active for a long while and is why most of the patches haven't been updated to this wiki's standards... {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 19:03, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Obviously not by one single person. As far as I know some people from [http://www.gensokyo.org Gensokyo.org] make the translation patch, with translation from this wiki. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 19:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Hmm... The ones I suspect were by a single person are HRtP, SoEW, EoSD, PCB and IN. I could be wrong, so I don't want to get into a little argument lol :) {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 20:34, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Colors/Colours ==<br />
<br />
I am a little confused about some stuff. A while ago, Nazeo did some spellcheck edits and part of that was changing "Colour" to "color" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Undefined_Fantastic_Object/Gameplay&diff=prev&oldid=228676). Now the edits aren't bad or something, but something came to my mind.<br />
<br />
Two of Marisa's themes, "Love-Coloured Magic" and "Love-colored Master Spark". Both has "love-colo(u)red" in it's name, but why does both have different spellings? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 21:20, 9 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
--I would assume neither themes had english titles and consequently an american and someone-not-american (british, canadian, ... ) translated it as such, and therefore now you have two versions of "colored". --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 06:39, 10 November 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Template_talk:MusicArticle&diff=229806Template talk:MusicArticle2011-11-10T06:35:24Z<p>Tsukihime: /* Using a circle's banner as the album banner */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Illustrator comes out...==<br />
I checked for a few times, still can't figure out why "Illustrator" comes out, anyone help to fix?<br /><br />
PS: The version before nereid working with no "Illustrator" comes out. - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 02:50, April 11, 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Self fixed - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 04:40, April 11, 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==titleen==<br />
It seems that this is compulsory. Most album titles get only so much as their Japanese title and a romanization these days, so it would be best if this were optional. I only have the basic of basic knowledge of templates and I don't want to mess anything up so... [[:User:Jigglyppuff8|!8RstuPId2Y]] 06:02, April 11, 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I taught that all music title basically sure got EN translation title... oh well let's see this how first - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 07:00, April 11, 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Much appreciated. [[:User:Jigglyppuff8|!8RstuPId2Y]] 01:42, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Category:Arrange CDs==<br />
Since this is the MusicArticle template, I guess that means it's a catchall for all CD articles. That brings up the problem of the Offical CDs. The Official CDs however aren't necessarily arrange CDs. A couple are, but not all; the manga enclosures, Akyu's untouched score, etc. Options are:<br />
#Pretend MusicArticle doesn't exist and use Infobox Music for those articles instead.<br />
#Axe the automatic [[:Category:Arrange CDs]] and manually put what category of CD it is.<br />
Personally, the former looks like the better option to me. So... Yeah. Just wanted to bring up this point. [[:User:Jigglyppuff8|!8RstuPId2Y]] 01:42, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
: Alright, good point. I prefer the second option though, since the MusicArticle template would work just as well for the Official CD articles (except for that difference). I'll go ahead and remove the Arrange CDs category from this template. &mdash;[[User:Nereid0|Nereid]] <small>[[User talk:Nereid0|talk]]</small> 04:02, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: Also help to axe the <code><nowiki>----<br />*Return to [[List of Groups]]</nowiki></code> for me if this include Official CD, or <code><nowiki>{{#if:}}</nowiki></code> again? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 13:42, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: I like the musictype parameter you added, and I agree with having [[List of Groups]] only if it's not an Official CD. &mdash;[[User:Nereid0|Nereid]] <small>[[User talk:Nereid0|talk]]</small> 17:00, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
: On a related note, Official CDs don't have reviews, but if no review is specified then currently <nowiki>{{Genre Needed}}</nowiki> is used as default. But it seems there's no way to have no review section at all. (See [[User:Nereid0/test]].) &mdash;[[User:Nereid0|Nereid]] <small>[[User talk:Nereid0|talk]]</small> 17:15, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: Considering other than <code><nowiki>{{#if}}</nowiki></code> but I don't know how to use... &mdash; [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 17:57, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
:: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23switch Switch case] may solve the problem, but how to coding I not sure about it &mdash; [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 18:09, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
: Why not make musictype optional? E.g. specify it explicitly only if it's official CD. Most MusicArticles are about Arrange CDs anyway. [[User:WGH_x|WGH]], 13:48, September 24, 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==image parameter==<br />
Should it be same with banner parameter in which only throw the file name? &mdash; [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 18:27, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
:No reason why not. Just upload a [[File:No Image Available.jpg|No Image Available.jpg]] for that occasional album and it should be all good. [[:User:Jigglyppuff8|!8RstuPId2Y]] 22:12, April 12, 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==[edit]==<br />
When, editing the article from the [edit] link, it takes you to editing the template instead of editing the article. Anyway we can still have the headline but without the [edit] link? [[:User:Jigglyppuff8|!8RstuPId2Y]] 20:09, April 15, 2010 (UTC)<br />
: Done. &mdash;[[User:Nereid0|Nereid]] <small>[[User talk:Nereid0|talk]]</small> 02:37, April 16, 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Multiple groups ==<br />
<br />
How would you go about adding multiple groups if a cd has more than one group? [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 00:46, October 22, 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Okay I figured out a temp solution:<br />
<pre><br />
| group = first group here <nowiki>& second group here</nowiki><br />
<br />
add these:<br />
<br />
| groupCat = first group here<br />
| groupCat2 = second group here<br />
</pre><br />
:what this does on "group" is list it as normal, but it doesn't add the categories, so use the groupcat to add the categories. So far only works for two groups. [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 20:12, October 24, 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, the "groupCat" and "groupCat2" fields automatically override whatever is in the "group" field when it comes to categories (in fact, albums with more than one circle are one of the reasons why they're there). There's no need for <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> tags to be used. It's just extra code. [[Special:Contributions/68.84.74.52|68.84.74.52]] 20:19, October 24, 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Easy navigation between albums ==<br />
As of now, there is no way to navigate between different albums<br />
of the same group. Well, there actually is, but it involves<br />
finding its category below. Categories also don't have any<br />
reasonable sorting. Inconvenient.<br />
<br />
I propose to add navigational box below to every article, which<br />
will contain links to other group's releases. I think MusicArcicle <br />
template can do it for us. For example, we can make the template<br />
include other template called like <br />
<code><nowiki>{{Navbox/%category%}}</nowiki></code> (where category<br />
is either group or groupCat).<br />
Just fill navboxes in and we would be done. No need to edit every<br />
page, since categories are already filled. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 13:49, 17 November 2010 (PST)<br />
<br />
:So all that would need to be done is to create navboxes for every doujin circle? I like the sound of that. It promotes completion of discographies since there will be a red link there taunting me to get it done. Also, don't forget about groupCat2.<br />
:There is the problem of circles that have only released one album and have since never released another Touhou album though. Maybe something like a "navbox" parameter with yes/no switches could be a solution? [[User:jigglyppuff8|!8RstuPId2Y]] <sup>[[User Talk:jigglyppuff8|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jigglyppuff8|Contribs]]</sub> 14:51, 17 November 2010 (PST)<br />
<br />
:: Instead of switch, we may just create a blank template when needed. <br />
:: Take a look: [[Template:IOSYS Albums]]. Is this kind of template good or not? --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 06:42, 18 November 2010 (PST)<br />
<br />
:: I've modified the MusicArticles template. See [[:Category:Arrange_CDs_navigational_templates]] for examples. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 10:56, 18 November 2010 (PST)<br />
<br />
:: P.S. [[Special:WantedTemplates]] --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 12:24, 18 November 2010 (PST)<br />
::: Return to links should be preserved, I think - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 08:27, 20 November 2010 (PST)<br />
:::: For official CDs, Navbox is much better. For arrange CDs... I'd use search instead of that immense list. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 07:34, 22 November 2010 (PST)<br />
<br />
==Request half-protected for this article==<br />
As said, this is a high-volume template page, best is only allow for registered users to do it, thanks in advance - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 03:25, 27 November 2010 (PST)<br />
:: Done. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 03:35, 27 November 2010 (PST)<br />
<br />
== Track Template ==<br />
<br />
So, while we're turning things into templates, I figured it'd be appropriate for track listings to have their own template. Much like other templates, this will help ensure consistency for track listings. You can find it at [[Template:Track]]. I haven't yet implemented it on any actual album pages yet, as I'd like to hear from some others about it. Here is a sample album page using the [[Template:Track|Track template]] (as well as the [[Template:H:title|H:title template]] as per discussion on [[Talk:List by Song]]): '''[[User:K/TemplateTesting]]'''. -- [[User:K|K]] 02:12, 20 December 2010 (PST)<br />
:Now this is just getting complicated. MusicArticle made the process more streamlined and easier compared to the previous method of making pages (Compare [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3dOdGK4LfQ this] to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiioy9CM-0o this]), but this just makes copying and pasting tracklists a pain. Having to copy and paste an entire template every time I want to add a track? It may be consistent, but I can see it becoming a time consumer. Which kind of defeats the purpose of a template making a task simpler and easier.<br />
:To put it another way,<br />
<pre>{{Track<br />
| tracknum = 01<br />
| title = [[Lyrics: 幻想のサテライト|{{lang|ja|幻想のサテライト}}]]<br />
| titletrans = Fantasy Satellite<br />
| length = 3:51<br />
| lyricist = {{lang|ja|ランコの姉}}<br />
| origtitle = {{lang|ja|天空のグリニッジ}}<br />
| source = MA<br />
}}</pre><br />
:uses 183 characters (spaces excluded), while<br />
<pre>*01.'''[[Lyrics: 幻想のサテライト|{{lang|ja|幻想のサテライト}}]]''' ''(03:51)''<br />
** ''Fantasy Satellite''<br />
** lyrics: {{lang|ja|ランコの姉}}<br />
** original title: {{lang|ja|天空のグリニッジ}}<br />
** source: {{MA}}</pre><br />
:uses 176. [[User:jigglyppuff8|jigglyppuff8]] <sup>[[User Talk:jigglyppuff8|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jigglyppuff8|Contribs]]</sub> 03:59, 20 December 2010 (PST)<br />
<br />
== image ==<br />
<br />
Some albums do not have an image because either the album never had one or the album was much too obscure for any scans of it to ever be found. Could someone that can edit the template make it so that if there is no image specified, that it will display something along the lines of "No Image" in its place? [[User:jigglyppuff8|jigglyppuff8]] <sup>[[User Talk:jigglyppuff8|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jigglyppuff8|Contribs]]</sub> 22:22, 24 December 2010 (PST)<br />
:Would someone like to design a No Image cover? lol we should have contests --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 14:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== catalogno ==<br />
<br />
Another thing I have to bother you with. In the case that an album doesn't have a catalog number and the field is left blank, can it be made so that the default value is "N/A"? I've been doing this (and will continue to do so) manually, but there is some merit in having the template itself do it when the field is left blank. [[User:jigglyppuff8|jigglyppuff8]] <sup>[[User Talk:jigglyppuff8|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jigglyppuff8|Contribs]]</sub> 12:04, 26 December 2010 (PST)<br />
: Done. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 12:37, 26 December 2010 (PST)<br />
<br />
== MusicArticle improved ==<br />
<br />
I've improved this template, <br />
but currently changes are kept at separate page. I'll merge them back<br />
when it would be considered ready. Changes:<br />
* Catalog number and length are in the infobox now. It's better place for them, because track count is already there. They are all generic related info.<br />
* It has clear statement that this article is about a music album. It isn't obvious in the current template. You can also write something right after this introduction, few words about album popularity, for example. Or something about standout tracks. Not only your opinion though, which goes to the review, but aggregated opinion from forums, imageboards, etc. Neutrality is disputable, but it's still better than nothing.<br />
* Staff now has its own section.<br />
In general, the plan is to '''make pages about arrange CDs look like articles''', like on Wikipedia, not track lists, which they currently are. Track lists are almost worthless, as they usually can be found elsewhere.<br />
* [[Template:MusicArticle/Alt]] - if you want to take a look on the source<br />
* [[Template:MusicArticle/Alt/testcases]] - example page<br />
Please post your thoughts. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 21:30, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Overall, I like how it looks, but I'm not too fond of the fixed introductory sentence. Sure, it makes it look more like an article, but since all the information is contained in the infobox, it is pretty useless. And in the case of the [[Music CDs#PC-98 Soundtracks|Akyu's Untouched Score]] albums, I wish there would it be at least the possibility to link back to the game. --[[User:NamelessLegacy|NamelessLegacy]] 23:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I think it looks good, too. I also agree that the introductory sentence could use some improvement. ''However'', most Music Albums you'll find on Wikipedia follow this similar structure ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateralus Example 1], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_Road Example 2]). If there's more general information that is not contained in the Infobox, it can go in the introductory paragraph. Is it repetitive? Yes, a little bit. But there's a subtle difference between the "Data Sheet" style of the Infobox, and the way the introductory paragraph can give some basic information of the album. It's subtle, but necessary.[[User:Anatole serial|Anatole serial]] 02:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Staff listing ==<br />
<br />
There have been some inconsistency in staff listings. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]], for example, is trying to adopt the following scheme:<br />
<pre>[[SYNC.ART'S|五条下位]]</pre><br />
That is, the name of person, which leads to article about circle. I'm not implying that it's absolutely wrong. But I have some objections against it, and I believe that it should be decided and written down in guidelines. That's just not right when people follow different rules here.<br />
<br />
So, I propose the following:<br />
<pre>Gojou Kai ([[SYNC.ART'S]])</pre><br />
Romanized name followed by circle's name. Japanese name, ''for ones interested'', will be specified in article about circle. Being Enlish wiki, Japanese shouldn't be preferred to English, that's the main objection. I also do not agree with circle name being just a hyperlink. It's not obvious to hover over link to see from which circle person comes from. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 20:54, 22 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Apologies for making those changes without discussing it! The reason I did that was because some albums would have had a staff list full links back to the same circle and the easiest way to prevent redundancy was to make the name the link. I can go back and edit those to the original format again, I don't mind. But what should be done about staff lists where most members are from the same circle? Do we put nothing if it's an album released by that circle?<br />
:As for the name, I though I read somewhere that original names took precedence over unofficial translated names (for circle names at least), so I just followed that for the people names too. (Also because I didn't really think twice about it at the time and because my priority was to just get the staff list and page assembled with all the info). I have no problem going back to edit those things again either.<br />
:Again, apologies for the unnecessary trouble, I'm only trying to help orz. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:02, 23 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::Nothing wrong with redundancy. I would indicate their group regardless because everyone goes everywhere and it sometimes becomes hard to keep track of who is with who.<br />
::Though it's amusing how previously (when I came to the wiki), there was huge emphasis on showing original names and all the artist names should preferably be in japanese (since my first parser was based on vgmdb, which is all romanized/translated). --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 13:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:: No need to apologize. Your efforts are really appreciated. Discrepancies happen all the time, and they're signs of on-going work. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 14:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::Thank you, I'm glad. :> And okay, so just to clarify, we'll have all staff with their respective circles next to them, regardless of how often that circle is listed? And all staff names will be Romanized? I just wanna be clear so I can make changes everyone agrees on. Seems like the latter will be a real pain to change but... oh well. C'est la vie. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 14:38, 24 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::: If there is at least one "circle-less" person, then certainly "yes". Otherwise... I think it's acceptable to omit circle name then. <br />
:::: I believe they should be romanized. --[[User:WGH|WGH]] 16:32, 25 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Oh, one more thing I wanted to bring up about Staff Lists was... what do we do when they get too long? The way the staff list is layed out atm makes for really long lists. It's not that great, but I also don't think we should sacrifice information... Is there some way we can change how it looks without much hassle? Maybe listing a few on the same line... I dunno, I had a couple of ideas, but since I'm not sure of what's possible and what isn't (with the template)... [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 14:46, 24 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
An easy alternative example: [[永 -TOKOSHIE-]]. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:53, 25 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:I prioritize vocalists because I use that field to auto-categorize as vocal album (more precisely, "album with vocal track(s)". Lyricists are first to go (because, well, I don't really pay attention to lyrics lol), and then arrangers. These two would be chosen first simply because the information is already available in the track listing (so we're not losing out on anything, it's just a little harder to spot)<br />
<br />
:I used to put the on the same line, but then if we're indicating the circle as well, it be a little messy.<br />
<br />
:However as an alternative, we can consider splitting the vocalists/arrangers/lyricists into three columns. But we will have to do some re-designing in the album staff section to make it look nice because I can't imagine just sticking in three columns there right now --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 13:25, 25 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::Rather than colums, we could try rows, maybe? We could have two or three artists with their circle per line.<br />
::;Arrangement<br />
:::{| style="width: 55%;" border="0" cellpadding="0.5"<br />
| width=33%; |[[SOUND HOLIC]] <br />
| width=33%; |SHU<br />
|-<br />
| GUCCI<br />
| 8STYLE<br />
|-<br />
| {{lang|ja|隣人}} ([[CYTOKINE]])<br />
| Swing Holic Band ([[SWING HOLIC]])<br />
|-<br />
| panoman<br />
| 8MasKaleido<br />
|-<br />
| REDALiCE ([[ALiCE'S EMOTiON]])<br />
| DAUGHTER<br />
|-<br />
| 709sec.<br />
| zikee<br />
|}<br />
::Anyway lol, for now I'll just continue listing everything so that whatever we do later, the information will be done in some past version and can easily be retrieved if we need it. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 15:49, 25 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::There are definitely many alternatives, but a lot of them won't go well with how template arguments work. I'm not too sure how we would populate a table's cells since all there is is a list of names. However there's no problem if we just take the entire list and move it around (like put it in a table cell). --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 16:42, 25 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah, the template is the problem.... I tried seeing how it would look by just sticking the table under those parts but the template rejected the code (It just displayed { I think). Is there actually some way to do it manually? [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 17:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Using tables in templates require HTML. The parser will expand the wikicode so the table is screwed up. Not an issue if you use HTML. That's why we used HTML for the lyrics --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 15:04, 28 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:actually wait, that's inaccurate. I used HTML for my own lyrics template for testing. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 15:05, 28 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
What's the policy on external links? Compare [[ココロバイブレーション]] with [[Crystal_Stone]]: Tsukihime added them to the former while removing them from the latter (edit: caught the bug and standardized all of Shibayan's album pages; revert to prior edit if you want to see what I was talking about [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 19:11, 13 August 2011 (UTC)). My thought is that internal links should be used whenever available, but external linking is fine - optional but encouraged - for anyone/any group that doesn't have a wiki page.<br />
<br />
Also, going back to [[ココロバイブレーション]], why type "3L" twice? That is, why have "3L ([http://nerimadaikon.web.fc2.com/ 3L])" instead of "[http://nerimadaikon.web.fc2.com/ 3L]"? I understand it when it's an individual working as part of a larger group (or simply under another alias that seems like it could be a larger group), but it seems pointless when it's the same alias. This would apply to internal links as well.<br />
<br />
Bringing these issues up for clarification/standardization (was working on adding a couple Shibayan albums then got stumped on these). Also, it'd be nice to have the main page updated with standardization remarks on the several issues that have been brought up under this Staff Listing section. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 09:44, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Aye, we definitely need to set this down in the guidelines. As for linking, the reason we link to circles internally even to pages that don't exist yet is because we do plan to make them all eventually. But, since it hasn't been that long since this was 'implemented' everything looks "under construction" with all the red links everywhere... and there's still a lot of groups left to go through and create pages for/standardize! Still, it makes the job easier in the long run, but we should definitely focus more on creating circle pages themselves as well to cut down on those. The one thing I always link offsite to are the illustrator/designer pages, since these usually have no place in the wiki.<br />
: The 3L/etc thing... I seem to recall a couple of (-3L-)'s being linked too - her blog's name, right? XD. It's pretty silly and we should definitely just link to [[3L]] herself instead of the artist blog (since it's not really a circle as such), but again, 3L doesn't have a page yet (this goes for other artist/blog combos too). Eventually we should get around to adding discographies to artist pages themselves ([[ARM]] and [[D.watt]] have one, though they need work), but that's something tagged on all the way at the bottom of the priority list at the moment. So much to do, so much to do. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 11:52, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for the quick reply. I'll remember to make internal-link placeholders where appropriate. I still have a concern with vocalists though: with so much work left to do on the wiki in music alone, do you think vocalists will ever get wiki pages? I ask because it would be better to give an external link that exists rather than an internal one that probably never will (in other words: treat vocalists like illustrators). [Wrote all that since 3L is a vocalist and (afaik) not an arranger and also not tied to any circle.] [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 14:46, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::I see what you mean. In that case let's do the following - link both internally and externally by using the same format (ie [[3L]] ([http://nerimadaikon.web.fc2.com/ 3L]))... I'm hoping 3L is a bad example, but I think most cases it shouldn't be repetitive. The reason I'm pressing for the red links to be present in some form is because it makes finding all the artist's work very easy by using their 'what links here' pages, so if we ever do get around to making those it won't be a huge hassle finding all the info and linking them back. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 19:50, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I like it. Will go back and revise as necessary and do that from now on. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 21:17, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Tooltip text for Music Articles ==<br />
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Haven't been here in a while, but it looks like it was recently implemented. Which template should I be looking at if I want to fix some inconsistencies? <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Pufferfish101|Pufferfish]]<sup>[[User talk:Pufferfish101|101]]</sup></font> 12:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I'm assuming you're referring to the original titles. The names are based on what is in the music room pages for each game I believe (ie: official names). The actual tooltip is proceeded using some gadget thing. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 13:03, 29 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, that's what I meant. I was just wondering how to tweak it seeing as songs from some sources (IaMP, PoDD) don't seem to have a tooltip popup. <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Pufferfish101|Pufferfish]]<sup>[[User talk:Pufferfish101|101]]</sup></font> 13:20, 29 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh. I'm not sure where the gadget was moved. You'll have to ask WGH. Basically he defined all of the titles in a dictionary so you would just have to add more entries to it. I think he mentioned he didn't add all the songs --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 13:27, 29 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== No catalog category ==<br />
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Let's categorize articles that don't have catalogues automatically. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 03:13, 7 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Multiple "original title"s from one "source" ==<br />
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This isn't yet standardized. It seems a waste of space to list the game twice, so I vote to group the "original title"s (original tracks) together and list the "source" (game/official cd) only once, immediately after them. See [[幻想郷_Electronic_Shoegazer]]'s second track for an example.<br />
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I'll update the main page if/once we're in agreement. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 21:15, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:If I'm right this was already the standard for a track. Though, mentioning it on the template isn't a bad idea. ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 22:15, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Yes, I think it's the standard too. There's a lot of pages that haven't been touched since they were made more or less (and some of them seem to have been thrown together really fast regardless of errors) so these are just some of the things we gotta go through and iron out. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 23:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Staff listing for one-circle albums ==<br />
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I take it you all want the circle to be linked regardless? That ensures standardization, but albums like [[neutrino*]] end up looking ridiculously busy. It's a good idea to keep linking circles when there are arrangers from different circles, like with the example [[Trois Noir]], but I think all those links are too much on the eyes when everyone's from the same circle. And I don't see any need at all to link the circle if there's only one arranger.<br />
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Not worth being a sticking point, I guess, but less is definitely better, and cleaner, when those extra links don't add anything. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 22:06, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with this. It is not something that really bothered me, but when I saw those I thought it looked weird. Plus, when there is something like this:<br />
:"Arranger1" (Circle1)<br />
:"Arranger2" (Circle2)<br />
:"Arranger3" (Circle1)<br />
:When this is seen on a page, I think it is better to only link when it first appears. So a link to "Circle1" for arranger1 would be good, but for arranger3 it is no need to link. ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 22:15, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::That's something that bothered me a while back too. I'm okay with listing the first instance only, but I do think the artist's circle needs a mention at least once even if the album is by said circle. One-arranger only staff albums I'm pretty neutral about, but I lean towards throwing it in for good measure. XD [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 23:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::I'd rather see both "Circle1" arrangers grouped together with circles linked for all arrangers. If you put "Arranger3" immediately after "Arranger1" but still don't link the circle for "Arranger3", it's still ambiguous; I think it isn't intuitive to know that they're from the same circle and that there's clarification value in linking the circles for all arrangers whenever there are multiple circles.<br />
:::But there's still the issue of albums where all arrangers are from the same circle (just skip to the tl;dr in the next para and read this if that doesn't make sense). I'll put it another way: I think linking circles is only useful to provide credit where credit is due and to allow readers to easily figure out where to find more from a particular arranger (or vocalist, illustrator, etc). With multiple circles, the reader might not know who's who, so circle links next to arrangers are useful (and give proper credit). With one circle, the reader knows that all arrangers either belong to that circle or are guest arranger without a circle. Guest arrangers without a circle either have their own page (internal or external) or are brand new / too small to have one. If they have a page, it'll be linked, so it's easy to find more stuff by them and it's easy to tell them apart from the circle's arranger(s). If they don't have a page, the reader can't find any other arrangements by them anyway, and there isn't anything else to give credit to, so there's no loss. Plus, from the most recent discussion above under the "Staff Listing" section, they should still be given an internal link, so they'll show up in red-hyperlink and will be easy to tell apart from the circle's arrangers. Older pages that don't have all the internal links yet will be updated (hopefully/maybe) eventually, but even if they aren't it's still easy to click on the circle and see who the arrangers are, which would clarify things even for outdated pages.<br />
:::tl;dr: one-circle albums - in-house staff should be black (not linked), outside staff should be blue or red (linked). Easy to tell who's who and all due credit is given.<br />
:::Also, I've been saying "arrangers" this entire time, but this applies to all staff in the same way. I've changed the section title to reflect this.<br />
:::Albums like [[neutrino*]] really demonstrate the value of this. Check out that page again; I've revised it. Compare to how it was before in the history. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 00:48, 15 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Unused template lines ==<br />
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It's a small point (not worth going back and changing existing albums), but I think it'd be better to leave unused template lines (except for musictype, ofc, as leaving it breaks the page) since that would make it much easier to add things later, especially for users that aren't familiar with the template. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 22:06, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Except if the album does not have a japenese name. Then you could just delete that line. But "Catalogno" and the images needs to be on the page. ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 22:15, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Imo It's okay to remove the parameters that very won't likely be used (such as print_references). There's also instances where a few won't even apply (instrumental albums won't ever need vocalist/lyricist etc parameters for example). But I agree that most staff parameters should be left intact on the page in most cases though. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 23:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Meh, ok. I'll keep them on my additions/revisions; no big if other people don't. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 00:48, 15 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Navigational Template Headers==<br />
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Not too long ago we started using the format "Albums by *circle name*" rather than "*circle names*'s Albums" in the navigational template headers. It wasn't really discussed but is anyone against this change? I prefer "Albums by" myself. [[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 23:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I like "ALbums by" too. Though, maybe the "DemoGuy" could change it for all the templates so it won't be an annoying task. ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 23:09, 14 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:If you all did change convention as you say, the template wasn't updated. Also, most of the big circles I checked have "<nowiki>[[</nowiki>*circle_name*<nowiki>]]</nowiki>'s albums" (side note: with internal link and lowercase "a" in album). That means, to me at least, that this is the correct way to currently label them.<br />
:I prefer the current "<nowiki>[[</nowiki>*circle_name*<nowiki>]]</nowiki>'s albums" over the proposed change, since the circle's name is the first thing you see, so it stands out more. Either is fine, though, once agreed-upon. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 00:48, 15 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Recent edit ==<br />
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I'm not exactly against including cross fades, but won't that take up a lot of server space? Also, the edit caused the catalog number line to disappear, so if someone could fix that...? ^^; I'd try fixing it myself but I'm absolutely terrible with templates... --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 16:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Using a circle's banner as the album banner ==<br />
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I noticed this being done sometimes for albums that don't have banners. I guess this is fine in most circumstances, but it wouldn't be fair to do this when credit is shared between multiple circles, as in when the catalog number for an album is completely different from the catalog numbering systems of any of the circles. In those circumstances, putting one circle's banner on the album page would be unfair to the other circles. I don't know how often this happens, but I've seen it a few times so I thought it was worth noting. [[User:K.B.|K.B.]] 03:19, 10 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I think all circles should be represented if they don't have an album banner, otherwise have none at all (for the particular albums) --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 06:35, 10 November 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=References_to_Touhou&diff=226476References to Touhou2011-10-21T05:19:09Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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<div>This article lists references to the [[Touhou Project]] outside the Touhou universe. It is only classified as a reference if the media doesn't tell story's about Touhou or if it doesn't have anything to do with Touhou. The media can be all kinds of stuff such as Video Games, Manga, Anime, Music, etc.<br />
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Fanon Touhou stuff such as the [[Yukkuri shiteitte ne!]] meme can also be classified as reference in other media since it came from Touhou. Media that had [[ZUN]]'s involvement (such as [[wikipedia:Graffiti Kingdom|Graffiti Kingdom]]) may also be classified as reference since it's outside Touhou. [[Doujin portal|Doujin]] works are also allowed as long it's neither a Touhou nor a Seihou game, or even and [[Fangames|fangame]] to Touhou.<br />
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There are some media that cannot be classified as reference. Any media known to be related to Touhou such as the [[Seihou Project]] should not be included, because it is related the Touhou Project. People cosplaying as [[:Category:Characters|Touhou characters]] in real life is also not included.<br />
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''If you think you found a reference to Touhou, please add.''<br />
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! style="background:#dde6ff" align="center" | Reference(s) (A-Z)<br />
! style="background:#dde6ff" align="center" | Image<br />
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{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameEn = Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai!!<br />
| image = MajiDe_touhou.jpg<br />
| type = Anime<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = ''''<br />
*Starting at 10:37, Yamato is shown playing a touhou-like game (complete with bullets, patterns, and spellcards).<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Charlie Brooker's Gameswipe|Charlie Brooker's Gameswipe]]<br />
| image = Gameswipe Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Television program|TV program]]<br />
| origin = United Kingdom<br />
| trivia = ''Special one-off show''<br />
*(at 7:24) The Phantasm Stage of [[Perfect Cherry Blossom]] was shown as an example of a [[wikipedia:shoot'em up|shoot'em up]] game. British comedian and satirist [[Wikipedia:Charlie Brooker|Charlie Brooker]] refered to the game as "sort of resembles a firework display being sick".<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:CNN|CNN]]<br />
| image = Cnn Touhou Refernce.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:United States cable news|News]]<br />
| origin = United States<br />
| trivia = ''Viral News Report''<br />
*(at entire airing) What was reported goes down in fan history as the most blundered casting on air when they reviewed [[Lyrics: Bad Apple!! (Alstroemeria Records)|Bad Apple]].<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameJp = <br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Ef: A Fairy Tale of the Two.|Ef-A Tale of Memories]]<br />
| image = Ef-A Tale of Memories Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Anime|Anime]]<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = ''First Episode''<br />
*(at 7:53) Mizuki Hayama is playing what seems to be the Stage 4 of [[Imperishable Night]].<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameJp = ラクガキ王国2 魔王城の戦い<br />
| nameEn = [[wikipedia:Graffiti Kingdom|Graffiti Kingdom]]<br />
| image = Reimu graffiti kingdom.jpg<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Video game|Video game]]<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = *[[Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] has a cameo as a playable character called "Flying Maiden". It is thought to be an official reference since [[ZUN]] had involvement in the game.<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:League of Legends|League of Legends]]<br />
| image = League of Legends Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Video game|Video game]]<br />
| origin = United States<br />
| trivia = ''Characters''<br />
* Lux, the Lady of Luminosity makes multiple references to [[Marisa Kirisame]], detailed on the Trivia section of the latter's page.<br />
''Items''<br />
*The item "Youmuu's Ghostblade" is a reference to [[Youmu Konpaku]] and her swords.<br />
*The item "Wriggle's Lantern" is a reference to [[Wriggle Nightbug]].<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameJp = 王様物語<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Little King's Story|Little King's Story]]<br />
| image = Little King's Story Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Video game|Video game]]<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = ''Talk to anyone''<br />
*If you are lucky, you will see Characters named after Touhou Characters! <br />
**Current discovered are [[Lyrica Prismriver|Lyrica]], [[Lunasa Prismriver|Lunasa]], [[Merlin Prismriver|Merlin]], [[Alice Margatroid|Alice]], [[Lily White|Lily]], [[Letty Whiterock|Letty]], [[Youmu Konpaku|Youmu]], [[Yuyuko Saigyouji|Yuyuko]], [[Mokou Fujiwara|Mokou]], [[Kaguya Houraisan|Kaguya]], [[Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] and [[Utsuho Reiuji|Utsuho]].<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai!|Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai!]]<br />
| image = Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai! Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Anime|Anime]]<br />
| origin = Japan <br />
| trivia = Episode 3<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameJp = 夏のあらし!<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Natsu no Arashi!|Natsu no Arashi!]]<br />
| image = Windvaneiteasy.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Anime|Anime]]<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = ''First Episode''<br />
*(at 6:51) A [[Yukkuri shiteitte ne!/Yukkuri Reimu|Yukkuri Reimu]] appeared as a weather vane.<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameJp = ねんどろいど じぇねれ~しょん<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Nendoroid|Nendoroid Generation]]<br />
| image = Nendoroid Generation Reference.jpg<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:List of PlayStation Portable games|PSP game]]<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = *[[Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]], [[Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] and [[Remilia Scarlet|Remilia]] will be featured in the game as playable characters. <ref>http://nengene.channel.or.jp/</ref><br />
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{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameJp = ぱにぽにだっしゅ<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Pani Poni|Pani Poni Dash!]]<br />
| image = Pani Poni Dash! Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Anime|Anime]]<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = ''OVA''<br />
*(at 11:36) A giant [[Yukkuri shiteitte ne!/Yukkuri Reimu|Yukkuri Reimu]] fighting a giant robot, which itself is a mash-up of [[wikipedia:Gaiking|Gaiking]], [[wikipedia:Gunbuster|Gunbuster]], and an [[wikipedia:Neon Genesis Evangelion|Evangelion]] unit.<br />
*(at 13:46) A [[Yukkuri shiteitte ne!/Yukkuri Reimu|Yukkuri Reimu]] and [[Yukkuri shiteitte ne!/Yukkuri Marisa|Marisa]] can be seen on a wall with the writing {{lang|ja|ゆっくりしていってね}}!!! (Take it easy!!!).<br />
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{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameEn = [[Samidare]]<br />
| image = Samidare Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Video game|Video game]]<br />
| origin = Japan <br />
| trivia = ''Final Stage''<br />
*[[SMD-00x]] shown bullet patterns and wings which resembles [[Shinki]]'s.<br />
''Extra Stage''<br />
*[[Yuki]] and [[Mai]] appear as the Midboss and appear as spheres of light along with [[Ghost (PC-98)|Mr. Ghosty]].<br />
**They also reference their boss battle from [[Mystic Square]].<br />
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{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Scott Pilgrim|Scott Pilgrim]]<br />
| image = Scott Pilgrim Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Comic|Comic]]<br />
| origin = Canada<br />
| trivia = ''Vol 6''<br />
*(Scott Pilgrim's Finest Hour) On the Arcade Machine, the Kanji for [[Touhou Project|Touhou]] ({{lang|ja|東方}}) can be seen. (The adjacent arcade machine sports the title of [[wikipedia:Fist of the North Star|Fist of the North Star]], or {{lang|ja|北斗の拳}}.<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameJp = 探偵オペラ ミルキィホームズ<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Tantei Opera Milky Holmes|Tantei Opera Milky Holmes]]<br />
| image = Tantei Opera Milky Holmes Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Anime|Anime]]<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = ''Fourth Episode''<br />
*(at 20:27) "Aileen stole the precious thing" was utered by Hirano Hasegawa when Kokoro Akechi is gagged and stuffed in the back seat by Aileen. It's a reference to [[IOSYS promotional videos#Marisa Stole the Precious Thing|Marisa Stole the Precious Thing]] by [[IOSYS]].<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameJp = うみねこのなく頃に<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:Umineko no Naku Koro ni|Umineko]]<br />
| image = Umineko Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Anime|Anime]]<br />
| origin = Japan<br />
| trivia = ''Sixth Episode''<br />
*(at 17:21) Cos-play as [[Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] on electric piano, [[Alice Margatroid|Alice]] on Drums, [[Sakuya Izayoi|Sakuya]] on Bass, [[Aya Shameimaru|Aya]] on Guitar, and Jessica Ushiromiya, who cosplayed as [[Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] and is the Lead Singer w/ guitar of the band.<br />
**This scene is originated from visual novel [[Wikipedia:Umineko no Naku Koro ni|When They Cry 3]].<br />
}}<br />
{{References to Touhou<br />
| nameEn = [[Wikipedia:World of Warcraft|World of Warcraft]]<br />
| image = WoW Touhou Reference.png<br />
| type = [[wikipedia:Video game|Video game]]<br />
| origin = United States<br />
| trivia = ''Quest''<br />
*A quest called "A Tiny Clever Commander" involves killing "Commander Nazrim", which is a reference to [[Nazrin]] and her music theme "A Tiny, Tiny, Clever Commander".<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[Touhou influences]]<br />
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==References==<br />
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[[Category:Fanon and Memes]]<br />
[[Category:Miscellany]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=User:Tsukihime&diff=225432User:Tsukihime2011-10-14T03:14:32Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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<div>[[User:Tsukihime#Small Tools|Small Tools]]<br />
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== Small Tools ==<br />
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Some small scripts that I wrote to make it easier to create/edit wiki articles.<br />
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*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parse_CDwiki.html CDwiki generator] (use this to create musicArticle templates. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parse_game.html Game Entry generator] (fill in the fields, get a nice game entry template Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/updateMusicArticle.html Music Article converter] (convert old music templates to the current one. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/langChecker.html Lang Tag Checker] (fixes any missing lang tags. Currently supports JA lang tag only. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parseTrackArtists.html Track Artists] (parses the album template to give list of all album arrangers, vocals, and lyricists. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/ParseDiscography.html Circle Discography parser] (parses a circle's discography. Use [https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?authkey=CPHNvPcH&hl=en&key=tL1TwjiSGeZRnw13nsoj4XQ&hl=en&authkey=CPHNvPcH#gid=8 this] for the input. Updated march 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/parseLyrics.html Lyrics parser] (Will support three functions: creating template, extracting from template, and updating existing lyrics. Updated july 2011)<br />
*[http://xtsukihime.webs.com/ParseAlbums.html Album parser] (Takes [[Special:Export|exported]] XML files and parses all albums into a nicely formatted output for spreadsheets. Updated march 2011)<br />
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== To-Do ==<br />
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*[[:Category:Articles_using_outdated_templates|Update Music Headers]] - Music albums that are using the older album template.<br />
*[[:Category:Move_requests|Move requests]]<br />
*[[:Category:Candidates_for_deletion|Delete requests]]<br />
*[[:Category:No_catalogno]]<br />
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== Projects ==<br />
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=== Pages ===<br />
*[[/List By Group|List By Group]]<br />
*[[/Doujin Circle Page|Doujin Circle Page]] - List of all doujin circles<br />
*[[/GenericTableTest|Generic Table]]<br />
*[[/WorldLinkTest|World Link Test]]<br />
*[[/Conventions|Conventions page]]<br />
*[[/YTQRSkills|Youkai Tan Q Roku skills page]]<br />
*[[/SWRspells|SWRspells]]<br />
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=== Templates ===<br />
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*[[/MusicTemplate|Music template]]<br />
*[[/DynamictableTest|Dynamic table test]]<br />
*[[/Navbox|Navbox template]]<br />
*[[/LyricPage|Lyric page]]<br />
*[[/TrackListTest|Music tracklist template]]<br />
*[[/OtherGameTest|Other game template]] (complete)<br />
*[[/CirclePageTest|Circle page and template]]<br />
*[[/Delete|Delete]]<br />
*[[/FangameInfobox|Fangame Infobox]]<br />
*[[/tab|tab]] - just some whitespace<br />
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=== Tedious manual work ===<br />
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*<s>[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Category:Articles_using_outdated_templates Update outdated music articles please!]</s> All music articles updated! <br />
*[[Red Link Albums|Red Link Albums]] - A number of red link albums to fill out!<br />
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=== Tests ===<br />
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*[[/Prefix test|Prefix test]]<br />
*[[/Subpage test|subpage test]]<br />
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== Links ==<br />
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=== Useful Pages ===<br />
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[[:Category:Content|All Content Categories]]<br />
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=== Music Databases ===<br />
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*[http://doujinongaku.net/cddbs/searchTag/1 Doujin Ongaku]<br />
*[http://www16.atwiki.jp/toho/ CDwiki]<br />
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[[image:椛_怒り.png]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=223125Talk:Touhou Wiki2011-10-04T05:44:13Z<p>Tsukihime: /* Official speculation */ new section</p>
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=== Character Page Sections ===<br />
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I'm using the [[Reimu]] page as a baseline along with the new InfoBox layout.<br />
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Right now, the sections are divided like this;<br />
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:Main Description<br />
:(Contents Box here)<br />
:1 Concept<br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 Occupation<br />
::1.4 Relationships<br />
:2 Story<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Sources<br />
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Currently, I'm thinking of chopping out section 1.3 and merging it with the Main Description. I think that the first few paragraphs of the page should describe the character briefly, its personality and the character's status quo(Ex. Reimu is a shrine maiden who solves incidents). I find that very hard to do without repeating myself in the occupations section. The InfoBox also has a occupations section.<br />
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Also, I don't think that 1.4 fits well in "Concept". Relationships are not part of the character's concept; the name is, the appearance is, but not the relationships. Should we put this section somewhere else?<br />
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Many other pages are like this and currently the model for the InfoBox layout is like this. Should we change/standardize it?<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 04:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I feel that 1.4 would allow to see how the relationships evolve over time if it's under story.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Note that "concept" is all optional. If some information is too short and fits better in the intro that is good, I guess. And other optional subheadings are fine too, like for the ability. And subsubheadings could be used too (Refering to [[Yukari Yakumo]]). ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Right, I understand that.<br />
For example, not all characters have a special occupation([[Rin|Rin]]) or notable ability that has to be explained ([[Yuugi]]) <br />
It was more along the lines that the information, if they did have that stuff, should be presented the same way in the same places if they are there.<br />
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This is what I'm thinking...<br />
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(These borrow elements from Sefam and UTW and one other person I'm forgetting. Sorry.)<br />
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:Main Description<br />
A short Summary of Character on top of Contents box<br />
:(Contents Box here) <br />
:1 Concept <br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 (Personality) <br />
::1.4 (Some other thing) *Optional<br />
:2 Story (with links to their dialogue)<br />
:2.1 BackStory *Maybe Optional... (Reason being I'm not sure if all characters do have a backstory)<br />
::2.2 Relationships<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
::3.3 (Some other thing that doesn't fit under these two) *Optional<br />
::(Other notable thing goes here) *Optional<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Source<br />
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(The top is subject to change)<br />
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What I find missing often is a summary on top of the profile, dialogue, appearance is missing, things like that.<br />
So, tell me what you think!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, something like that, plus a maybe reference (youtube for example). But I think relationships should be part of "concept". ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 19:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry, too many pages to keep track of and I thought things were finally settled on. One, I suggested the optional Personality under Concept, in case that ever needs more elaboration than what's touched on in the opening summary. <br />
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Two, I don't believe Relationships makes much sense under "Concept", which along with what Nazeo said, implies to me that it should be used mostly for the bare bones of a character. I wonder if this is too rigid a thought. Obviously the other option is to forget this very literal definition, cram it all under Concept again and leave Story for that alone, especially since Story is so lengthy for some characters. <br />
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Also, thinking about the way I laid out some articles like [[Mononobe no Futo]] or [[Toyosatomimi no Miko]] when adding the historical/fictional/mythological basis, I realized Name and these descriptions usually go hand in hand in most articles, so I thought Name should be renamed Name and Basis or something (when Basis information is available, anyway).[[User:UTW|UTW]] 04:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Don't be sorry, I'm just making sure that the work on these don't conflict later.<br />
(Also, while I agree with what you said about the relationships. it was [[User:Sefam]] who stated that, not me, lol)<br />
I looked at your work and I agree with the set-up, (though I added Relationships as a later thing)<br />
For Basis, it translates back as concept, so I think that'll work for now unless it's like [[Rin]] who's occupation may have a reference to Buddhism and makes the character (which would be optional because other characters may or may not have have notable qualities like that in regards to Concept)<br />
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Sorry [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]], but IMO, relationships make more sense to me in the story section.<br />
Your reference ideas if they have a basis in history can be a subsection under Trivia but on top of Fandom.<br />
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What worries me is the position of the Backstory section.<br />
If it's on top, 1.it can possibly spoil the story, but if it's under it, 2. it may repeat what the story already stated (though a simple fix may correct that 3. is that it shouldn't be a sub and be italicized and crammed somehere)<br />
So far, I'm with # 2, anyone else has their own spin on this?<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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===Character infobox lists===<br />
> [[Mima]]. Tony did an revision ([http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Mima&oldid=217577]) with using "small" for text between the brackets for specifing the stage and stuff. It looks ok imo, though, for that a template should be created so a page isn's spammed with all "<nowiki><small></nowiki>" and <nowiki><br /></nowiki> stuff. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>(dutch)</sup> 16:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did this simply because of lack of space. I'm trying to find way reduce space without harm and is why I suggested 350. I don't know any other methods apart from <nowiki><small></nowiki>. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== May I add the lyrics to some songs? ==<br />
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Just got a copy of Funny Party in the Fog, and was going to add some of the lyrics, but then I saw the line that says "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!" So this is me asking permission to add the lyrics for some of the songs. I'm sure they're copyrighted somewhere, so I thought it would be safer to ask.<br />
--[[User:Flanchan|Flanchan]] 01:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding the lyrics for songs is fine for as long as you don't just copy and paste other people's translations without crediting them. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Heaven within the Youkai mountain? ==<br />
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I believe there should be a location category called "Worlds Above" (天空) in the "outside Gensokyou" section. The "underworld" has its own category, so I suppose there should be a category for everything above gensokyo as well. The netherworld/hakugyukuro/heaven could be moved to this section (I'm not sure if the netherworld required its own category...The Hakugyokuro could even be a subcategory within the "netherworld" page). I would also add in the senkai (仙界) there, which is where the bosses of th13 moved over to after leaving the mausoleum beneath Myouren temple. Maybe even the "Dragon Palace" (竜宮) in the thunderstorm clouds as well...though i'm not sure if there's enough facts for it to have a page of its own. <br />
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Heaven and the Youkai mountain isn't literally connected by a road. It's more like a summit where the open passage through the clouds above are visible.<br />
Right now according to the wiki, it looks as if the Yama sends you to the youkai mountain once you reach ascension... [[User:Tren|Tren]] 03:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Stubs ==<br />
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Now the "stub" template isn't very clear. Yes, the page isn't fully finished and defenitly needs revision, but I think the "stub" template could be expanded for a bit. So having different kinds of stubs, "Translation stubs", "Character stubs", "Game stubs" etc. My idea is that when you do something like <br />
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{{Stub|Game|(list of stuff that needs to be done)}}<br />
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The first "Game" will be categorized as "<nowiki>[[Category:Game stubs]]</nowiki><br />
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And the template will show a very small box with small text, and using the <nowiki><toggledisplay></nowiki> to show and hide the small list of tasks. And in the middle "This article about a game is a stub. If you can add to it in any way, please do so."<br />
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Sure, it could be put on the community portal, but it is useless to put every stub there. And for things like fangames it could be usefill. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 00:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Fan doujins by character? ==<br />
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I figured I would get some input before starting this. I figured that there are a lot of Touhou Doujins out there with alot of characters...I figured maybe we can put up a page and list the doujins on the character by appearance?<br />
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We don't have to go around digging for them...it's something to add to when we come across them. [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 21:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Incomplete Translations ==<br />
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There are plenty of pages for songs or literature that haven't been translated into English. Cage in Lunatic Runagate's seventh chapter is nearly entirely blank, the eighth chapter is also incomplete and the afterword has no English at all. That's just one example. I was wondering who has the knowledge to translate these sorts of things, as the pages seem very half-done without them. [[User:DarkMarxSoul|DarkMarxSoul]] 00:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10102.60.html Good luck there... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 00:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "Fake" games ==<br />
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I was just looking at [[fan-made_characters/Rinbokusan_Sasaki]] and it says she was made for a "fake" touhou game.<br />
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What is a "Fake" game? Perhaps a more descriptive term could be used to describe such games? I certainly wouldn't want players calling any games I create "fake" --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It's a game that pretends to be an official game by ZUN. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 19:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::The fake term is pretty much something inaccurate to describe such games... I don't know if it is refering to that it is a "fake" Touhou game or a "Fake" game, just... leave them as Touhou "clones" if anything... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 20:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Pool Touhou Wiki? ==<br />
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What is [http://pool.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page this]? What's it going to be? I discovered it when I tried to upload a new image... {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 18:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Just change pool. to en. --[[User:Hikaruxz|Hikaruxz]] 19:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:OK. Thanks for the info ^^ {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 21:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Game Navbox restructuring ==<br />
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I've been considering the (official) game navboxes, and I think we can organize them far better than they are right now.<br />
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My biggest concern at the moment is that we have a page/subpage structure named "translation". This is, in my opinion, a rather useless structure. The translation page itself is hardly even useful, and the most I've seen it do is link to the scenario pages. Nothing the navbox can't do, in any case. As for its use as a header, I'm pretty sure everyone who comes here expects to see a translation anyway, regardless of whether the header labels it explicitly or not. I think we can safely do away with it.<br />
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And so, in its place, I thought it would be far better to unify the groups under the headers "story", "gameplay" and "documentation" for most games. Prologue/extra story, scenario/extra scripts, characters and locations all belong under the Story subsection. Strategy and spellcards belong under Gameplay, and Documentation is for anything else within the game files, like the music comments and afterword. Not all games navboxes will look the same, of course, but I mean as a general guideline. Games like Shoot the Bullet that lack a story as such would retain the Translation structure for instance.<br />
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Some examples:<br />
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([[Template:Navbox TD|Ten Desires one implemented]])<br />
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{{Navbox<br />
|name = Navbox IaMP<br />
|title = [[Immaterial and Missing Power]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th075Cover.jpg|155px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation|Story]]</center><br />
|list1 = <br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|list1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Reimu's Scenario|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Marisa's Scenario|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Sakuya's Scenario|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Alice's Scenario|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Patchouli's Scenario|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Youmu's Scenario|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Remilia's Scenario|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yuyuko's Scenario|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yukari's Scenario|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Suika's Scenario|Suika]]<br />
|group2 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list2 = [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Sakuya Izayoi]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] &bull; [[Patchouli Knowledge]] &bull; [[Youmu Konpaku]] &bull; [[Remilia Scarlet]] &bull; [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]] &bull; [[Yukari Yakumo]] &bull; [[Suika Ibuki]] &bull; [[Hong Meiling]]<br />
|group3 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Stages|Stages]]<br />
|list3 = [[Hakurei Shrine]] &bull; [[Forest of Magic]] &bull; [[Scarlet Devil Mansion]] (Lobby &bull; Library &bull; Clock Tower) &bull; [[Netherworld]] ([[Hakugyokurou]])<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Immaterial and Missing Power/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list1 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Sakuya Izayoi|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Alice Margatroid|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Patchouli Knowledge|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Youmu Konpaku|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Remilia Scarlet|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Yuyuko Saigyouji|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Yukari Yakumo|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Suika Ibuki|Suika]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Spell Cards/Hong Meiling|Meiling]]<br />
|group2 = VS Mode Script<br />
|list2 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Reimu's Script|Reimu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Marisa's Script|Marisa]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Sakuya's Script|Sakuya]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Alice's Script|Alice]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Patchouli's Script|Patchouli]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Youmu's Script|Youmu]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Remilia's Script|Remilia]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yuyuko's Script|Yuyuko]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Yukari's Script|Yukari]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Suika's Script|Suika]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Meiling's Script|Meiling]]<br />
}}<br />
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|group3 = <center>Documentation</center><br />
|list3 = [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Translation/Afterword|Afterword]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power/Music|Music Comments]] &bull; [[Immaterial and Missing Power OST|Original Soundtrack]]<br />
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|name = Navbox IN<br />
|title = [[Imperishable Night]]<br />
|image = [[File:Th08cover.jpg|175px]]<br />
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|group1 = <center>[[Imperishable Night/Story|Story]]</center><br />
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|group1 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]<br />
|list1 = Boundary Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Magic Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Scarlet Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]]) &bull; Ghost Team ([[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Scenario 1|Part 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Scenario 2|Part 2]])<br />
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|group2 = [[Imperishable_Night/Translation/Afterword|Extra Story]]<br />
|list2 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Boundary Team's Extra|Boundary Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Magic Team's Extra|Magic Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Scarlet Team's Extra|Scarlet Team]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Ghost Team's Extra|Ghost Team]]<br />
|group3 = [[Imperishable Night/Characters|Characters]]<br />
|list3 = [[Reimu Hakurei]] &bull; [[Marisa Kirisame]] &bull; [[Sakuya Izayoi]] &bull; [[Youmu Konpaku]] &bull; [[Yukari Yakumo]] &bull; [[Alice Margatroid]] &bull; [[Remilia Scarlet]] &bull; [[Yuyuko Saigyouji]] &bull; [[Wriggle Nightbug]] &bull; [[Mystia Lorelei]] &bull; [[Keine Kamishirasawa]] &bull; [[Tewi Inaba]] &bull; [[Reisen Udongein Inaba]] &bull; [[Eirin Yagokoro]] &bull; [[Kaguya Houraisan]] &bull; [[Fujiwara no Mokou]]<br />
|group4 = Locations<br />
|list4 = [[Human Village]] &bull; [[Bamboo Forest of the Lost]] &bull; [[Eientei]] &bull; [[Moon]]<br />
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|group2 = <center>[[Imperishable Night/Gameplay|Gameplay]]</center><br />
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{{Navbox subgroup<br />
|group1 = <br />
|list1 = [[Imperishable Night/Strategy|Strategy]] &bull; [[High scores#Imperishable Night world records ~ "B" route & Extra only (東方永夜抄の全一記録 ~ Final-BとEX限定)|High Scores]] &bull; [[:Category:Imperishable Night Replays|Replays]]<br />
|group2 = [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards|Spell Cards]]<br />
|list2 = [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 1|Stage 1]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 2|Stage 2]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 3|Stage 3]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 4A|Stage 4A Uncanny]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 4B|Stage 4B Powerful]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 5|Stage 5]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 6A|Stage 6A]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Stage 6B|Stage 6B]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Extra|Extra]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Spell Cards/Last Word|Last Word]]<br />
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|group3 = <center>Documentation</center><br />
|list3 = [[Imperishable Night/Translation/Afterword|Afterword]] &bull; [[Imperishable Night/Music|Music]]<br />
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Are there any major objections to doing this? And I mean beyond the amount of work :P If it comes down to it I can handle the worst of it. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 23:35, 24 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I absolotly, and I mean seriously thinking about it, I absolotly have no objection to this :P It looks perfecly fine to me cause I was thinking the same thing before I seen the abouve you wrote. I'd say go ahead and do those useful edits :D {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 00:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes. Please, and thank you. I've hated "Translation" ever since we started the subpage setup and the navboxes as they are. If you can combine the sections in a way that makes it logical and easier to navigate, that'd be awesome. Don't forget to move the pages around too, to their proper subpage sections. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 05:12, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:So..... Momiji is planning to do away the "Translation" subpage.... hmm... Story under "Story" subpage is it? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 05:32, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It would make sense, although having "Translation" in the first place was the result of the original translation of the raw text. I always thought that having the majority of the game text, story and whatnot, being under "Translation" felt awkward and kind've inappropriate. [[User:Momiji|Momiji]] 05:40, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Planned, next week to do the moving, with interwiki link fix - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 06:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: Great! Good to hear I wasn't the only "Translation" hater. :V For the subpages, I thought Game/Story/Prologue, Game/Story/Scenario, Game/Story/Characters etc etc was the best structure. I don't necessarily think we should move stuff like Spell Cards under the Gameplay subpage though, just like we don't have Music under Documentation, so it'd just be the story stuff that gets moved around.<br />
: But by planned for next week, do you mean only the moving? I could reorganize the navboxes for now. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 10:39, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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What to do with the Translation page for like [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation|UFO]] where there are other documentation on it? ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 14:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: We could rename those to "Miscellaneous Translations" (or something) and stick them under documentation, perhaps? --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 15:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Alright, I'll be starting on the Ten Desires navbox and subpages move now. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 11:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did say we start this weekend? - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: You said next week so I wasn't sure... ^^; But Ten Desires internal stuff is done, so all that's left is stuff that links to redirects, which I'll take care of now too. --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Ah, so the "Translation" subpage will exist. Ok then those miscellaneous translations could be put in there. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] 12:27, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: Aye, and we can put it on the documentation line in the navbox. But for now the Ten Desires translation page is really useless so I didn't put it (yet?). --[[User:Mizutori|Mizutori]] 12:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Internal link fix: done, Interwiki link fix: done, useless redirect delete: done - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 12:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Official speculation ==<br />
<br />
Saw this term. What makes speculation official? When ZUN goes "Hmm yes that may be the case I guess though I never explicitly wrote that"? --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 05:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Template_talk:News&diff=223103Template talk:News2011-10-04T02:27:50Z<p>Tsukihime: /* About updating the News page... */</p>
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<div>==TH 13 News?==<br />
Should be updated for touhou 13. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Go for it - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 02:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I can't do it myself, only admins can edit this template. :V [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::It might be also a good idea to say that it's Touhou 13. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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<br />
Please update in incoming events the Flowering Night 2011 (May 14 and 15)<br />
http://www.flowering-night.net/2011/<br />
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Requesting Apr 15th update. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 15:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sendai earthquake ==<br />
<br />
Holy crap, 8.8 magnitude. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 04:08, 11 March 2011 (PST)<br />
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== Comics Link ==<br />
<br />
The comics discussion has been archived, so the link serves no purpose anymore. It should be removed or something. [[User:Kiefmaster99|- Kiefmaster99]] 03:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== About updating the News page... ==<br />
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For the upcoming events I see that past events are still up on the list. Wouldn't it be better if we start erasing past events? [[User:Deathsoul4|Deathsoul4]] 01:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I agree, I just want somebody to erase the old news and completed tasks monthly. --[[User:Rockmari|Rockmari]] 01:38, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Erm... the past event are NOT included at the main page, past event in the template is for record purpose, refer THWiki, in which THEY DON'T DELETE ANY PAST EVENT for record and reference purpose - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 01:53, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Well, what about old project news in the [[Touhou_Wiki:Community_portal|community portal]]? --[[User:Rockmari|Rockmari]] 02:07, 4 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Treat it like any other news item, simply changing where the section ends on the [[news]] page. All news should be transcluded from the same place unless the design was changed --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 02:27, 4 October 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=219275Talk:Touhou Wiki2011-09-17T19:25:28Z<p>Tsukihime: /* "Fake" games */</p>
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*[[/Subpage structure|Subpage structure]]<br />
*[[/Date standards|Date standards]]<br />
*[[/Revamp Arrange Music|Revamp Arrange Music]]<br />
*[[/Lyric Re-design|Lyric Re-design]]<br />
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=== Character Page Sections ===<br />
<br />
I'm using the [[Reimu]] page as a baseline along with the new InfoBox layout.<br />
<br />
Right now, the sections are divided like this;<br />
<br />
:Main Description<br />
:(Contents Box here)<br />
:1 Concept<br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 Occupation<br />
::1.4 Relationships<br />
:2 Story<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Sources<br />
<br />
Currently, I'm thinking of chopping out section 1.3 and merging it with the Main Description. I think that the first few paragraphs of the page should describe the character briefly, its personality and the character's status quo(Ex. Reimu is a shrine maiden who solves incidents). I find that very hard to do without repeating myself in the occupations section. The InfoBox also has a occupations section.<br />
<br />
Also, I don't think that 1.4 fits well in "Concept". Relationships are not part of the character's concept; the name is, the appearance is, but not the relationships. Should we put this section somewhere else?<br />
<br />
Many other pages are like this and currently the model for the InfoBox layout is like this. Should we change/standardize it?<br />
<br />
[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 04:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I feel that 1.4 would allow to see how the relationships evolve over time if it's under story.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Note that "concept" is all optional. If some information is too short and fits better in the intro that is good, I guess. And other optional subheadings are fine too, like for the ability. And subsubheadings could be used too (Refering to [[Yukari Yakumo]]). ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Right, I understand that.<br />
For example, not all characters have a special occupation([[Rin|Rin]]) or notable ability that has to be explained ([[Yuugi]]) <br />
It was more along the lines that the information, if they did have that stuff, should be presented the same way in the same places if they are there.<br />
<br />
This is what I'm thinking...<br />
<br />
(These borrow elements from Sefam and UTW and one other person I'm forgetting. Sorry.)<br />
<br />
:Main Description<br />
A short Summary of Character on top of Contents box<br />
:(Contents Box here) <br />
:1 Concept <br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 (Personality) <br />
::1.4 (Some other thing) *Optional<br />
:2 Story (with links to their dialogue)<br />
:2.1 BackStory *Maybe Optional... (Reason being I'm not sure if all characters do have a backstory)<br />
::2.2 Relationships<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
::3.3 (Some other thing that doesn't fit under these two) *Optional<br />
::(Other notable thing goes here) *Optional<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Source<br />
<br />
(The top is subject to change)<br />
<br />
What I find missing often is a summary on top of the profile, dialogue, appearance is missing, things like that.<br />
So, tell me what you think!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, something like that, plus a maybe reference (youtube for example). But I think relationships should be part of "concept". ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 19:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Sorry, too many pages to keep track of and I thought things were finally settled on. One, I suggested the optional Personality under Concept, in case that ever needs more elaboration than what's touched on in the opening summary. <br />
<br />
Two, I don't believe Relationships makes much sense under "Concept", which along with what Nazeo said, implies to me that it should be used mostly for the bare bones of a character. I wonder if this is too rigid a thought. Obviously the other option is to forget this very literal definition, cram it all under Concept again and leave Story for that alone, especially since Story is so lengthy for some characters. <br />
<br />
Also, thinking about the way I laid out some articles like [[Mononobe no Futo]] or [[Toyosatomimi no Miko]] when adding the historical/fictional/mythological basis, I realized Name and these descriptions usually go hand in hand in most articles, so I thought Name should be renamed Name and Basis or something (when Basis information is available, anyway).[[User:UTW|UTW]] 04:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Don't be sorry, I'm just making sure that the work on these don't conflict later.<br />
(Also, while I agree with what you said about the relationships. it was [[User:Sefam]] who stated that, not me, lol)<br />
I looked at your work and I agree with the set-up, (though I added Relationships as a later thing)<br />
For Basis, it translates back as concept, so I think that'll work for now unless it's like [[Rin]] who's occupation may have a reference to Buddhism and makes the character (which would be optional because other characters may or may not have have notable qualities like that in regards to Concept)<br />
<br />
Sorry [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]], but IMO, relationships make more sense to me in the story section.<br />
Your reference ideas if they have a basis in history can be a subsection under Trivia but on top of Fandom.<br />
<br />
What worries me is the position of the Backstory section.<br />
If it's on top, 1.it can possibly spoil the story, but if it's under it, 2. it may repeat what the story already stated (though a simple fix may correct that 3. is that it shouldn't be a sub and be italicized and crammed somehere)<br />
So far, I'm with # 2, anyone else has their own spin on this?<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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===Character infobox lists===<br />
> [[Mima]]. Tony did an revision ([http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Mima&oldid=217577]) with using "small" for text between the brackets for specifing the stage and stuff. It looks ok imo, though, for that a template should be created so a page isn's spammed with all "<nowiki><small></nowiki>" and <nowiki><br /></nowiki> stuff. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>(dutch)</sup> 16:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did this simply because of lack of space. I'm trying to find way reduce space without harm and is why I suggested 350. I don't know any other methods apart from <nowiki><small></nowiki>. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== May I add the lyrics to some songs? ==<br />
<br />
Just got a copy of Funny Party in the Fog, and was going to add some of the lyrics, but then I saw the line that says "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!" So this is me asking permission to add the lyrics for some of the songs. I'm sure they're copyrighted somewhere, so I thought it would be safer to ask.<br />
--[[User:Flanchan|Flanchan]] 01:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding the lyrics for songs is fine for as long as you don't just copy and paste other people's translations without crediting them. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Heaven within the Youkai mountain? ==<br />
<br />
I believe there should be a location category called "Worlds Above" (天空) in the "outside Gensokyou" section. The "underworld" has its own category, so I suppose there should be a category for everything above gensokyo as well. The netherworld/hakugyukuro/heaven could be moved to this section (I'm not sure if the netherworld required its own category...The Hakugyokuro could even be a subcategory within the "netherworld" page). I would also add in the senkai (仙界) there, which is where the bosses of th13 moved over to after leaving the mausoleum beneath Myouren temple. Maybe even the "Dragon Palace" (竜宮) in the thunderstorm clouds as well...though i'm not sure if there's enough facts for it to have a page of its own. <br />
<br />
Heaven and the Youkai mountain isn't literally connected by a road. It's more like a summit where the open passage through the clouds above are visible.<br />
Right now according to the wiki, it looks as if the Yama sends you to the youkai mountain once you reach ascension... [[User:Tren|Tren]] 03:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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For every 9 major contributions you make to wiki, you receive a wonderful cirno token!<br />
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Each task on the community portal should be assigned a reward value between 1 and 5. This indicates how many cirno tokens you will receive upon completion of the task. 5 cirno tokens means you will receive a cirno coin. <br />
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You can find these point values on [[User:Nazeo/List Of Users On Touhou Wiki|The List Of Users]] page.<br />
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After you complete the task, award yourself the number of tokens assigned!<br />
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I'm just the lowly messenger. :3<br />
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Any questions please direct them to [[User talk:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] or [[User talk:Nazeo|Nazeo]] (though it's preferred to talk to Tsukihime before coming to me)<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Stubs ==<br />
<br />
Now the "stub" template isn't very clear. Yes, the page isn't fully finished and defenitly needs revision, but I think the "stub" template could be expanded for a bit. So having different kinds of stubs, "Translation stubs", "Character stubs", "Game stubs" etc. My idea is that when you do something like <br />
<pre><br />
{{Stub|Game|(list of stuff that needs to be done)}}<br />
</pre><br />
The first "Game" will be categorized as "<nowiki>[[Category:Game stubs]]</nowiki><br />
<br />
And the template will show a very small box with small text, and using the <nowiki><toggledisplay></nowiki> to show and hide the small list of tasks. And in the middle "This article about a game is a stub. If you can add to it in any way, please do so."<br />
<br />
Sure, it could be put on the community portal, but it is useless to put every stub there. And for things like fangames it could be usefill. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 00:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fan doujins by character? ==<br />
<br />
I figured I would get some input before starting this. I figured that there are a lot of Touhou Doujins out there with alot of characters...I figured maybe we can put up a page and list the doujins on the character by appearance?<br />
<br />
We don't have to go around digging for them...it's something to add to when we come across them. [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 21:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Incomplete Translations ==<br />
<br />
There are plenty of pages for songs or literature that haven't been translated into English. Cage in Lunatic Runagate's seventh chapter is nearly entirely blank, the eighth chapter is also incomplete and the afterword has no English at all. That's just one example. I was wondering who has the knowledge to translate these sorts of things, as the pages seem very half-done without them. [[User:DarkMarxSoul|DarkMarxSoul]] 00:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10102.60.html Good luck there... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 00:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== "Fake" games ==<br />
<br />
I was just looking at [[fan-made_characters/Rinbokusan_Sasaki]] and it says she was made for a "fake" touhou game.<br />
<br />
What is a "Fake" game? Perhaps a more descriptive term could be used to describe such games? I certainly wouldn't want players calling any games I create "fake" --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=219274Talk:Touhou Wiki2011-09-17T19:25:19Z<p>Tsukihime: /* "Fake" games */ new section</p>
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<br />
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<br />
*[[/Subpage structure|Subpage structure]]<br />
*[[/Date standards|Date standards]]<br />
*[[/Revamp Arrange Music|Revamp Arrange Music]]<br />
*[[/Lyric Re-design|Lyric Re-design]]<br />
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<br />
=== Character Page Sections ===<br />
<br />
I'm using the [[Reimu]] page as a baseline along with the new InfoBox layout.<br />
<br />
Right now, the sections are divided like this;<br />
<br />
:Main Description<br />
:(Contents Box here)<br />
:1 Concept<br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 Occupation<br />
::1.4 Relationships<br />
:2 Story<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Sources<br />
<br />
Currently, I'm thinking of chopping out section 1.3 and merging it with the Main Description. I think that the first few paragraphs of the page should describe the character briefly, its personality and the character's status quo(Ex. Reimu is a shrine maiden who solves incidents). I find that very hard to do without repeating myself in the occupations section. The InfoBox also has a occupations section.<br />
<br />
Also, I don't think that 1.4 fits well in "Concept". Relationships are not part of the character's concept; the name is, the appearance is, but not the relationships. Should we put this section somewhere else?<br />
<br />
Many other pages are like this and currently the model for the InfoBox layout is like this. Should we change/standardize it?<br />
<br />
[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 04:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I feel that 1.4 would allow to see how the relationships evolve over time if it's under story.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Note that "concept" is all optional. If some information is too short and fits better in the intro that is good, I guess. And other optional subheadings are fine too, like for the ability. And subsubheadings could be used too (Refering to [[Yukari Yakumo]]). ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Right, I understand that.<br />
For example, not all characters have a special occupation([[Rin|Rin]]) or notable ability that has to be explained ([[Yuugi]]) <br />
It was more along the lines that the information, if they did have that stuff, should be presented the same way in the same places if they are there.<br />
<br />
This is what I'm thinking...<br />
<br />
(These borrow elements from Sefam and UTW and one other person I'm forgetting. Sorry.)<br />
<br />
:Main Description<br />
A short Summary of Character on top of Contents box<br />
:(Contents Box here) <br />
:1 Concept <br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 (Personality) <br />
::1.4 (Some other thing) *Optional<br />
:2 Story (with links to their dialogue)<br />
:2.1 BackStory *Maybe Optional... (Reason being I'm not sure if all characters do have a backstory)<br />
::2.2 Relationships<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
::3.3 (Some other thing that doesn't fit under these two) *Optional<br />
::(Other notable thing goes here) *Optional<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Source<br />
<br />
(The top is subject to change)<br />
<br />
What I find missing often is a summary on top of the profile, dialogue, appearance is missing, things like that.<br />
So, tell me what you think!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, something like that, plus a maybe reference (youtube for example). But I think relationships should be part of "concept". ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 19:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Sorry, too many pages to keep track of and I thought things were finally settled on. One, I suggested the optional Personality under Concept, in case that ever needs more elaboration than what's touched on in the opening summary. <br />
<br />
Two, I don't believe Relationships makes much sense under "Concept", which along with what Nazeo said, implies to me that it should be used mostly for the bare bones of a character. I wonder if this is too rigid a thought. Obviously the other option is to forget this very literal definition, cram it all under Concept again and leave Story for that alone, especially since Story is so lengthy for some characters. <br />
<br />
Also, thinking about the way I laid out some articles like [[Mononobe no Futo]] or [[Toyosatomimi no Miko]] when adding the historical/fictional/mythological basis, I realized Name and these descriptions usually go hand in hand in most articles, so I thought Name should be renamed Name and Basis or something (when Basis information is available, anyway).[[User:UTW|UTW]] 04:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Don't be sorry, I'm just making sure that the work on these don't conflict later.<br />
(Also, while I agree with what you said about the relationships. it was [[User:Sefam]] who stated that, not me, lol)<br />
I looked at your work and I agree with the set-up, (though I added Relationships as a later thing)<br />
For Basis, it translates back as concept, so I think that'll work for now unless it's like [[Rin]] who's occupation may have a reference to Buddhism and makes the character (which would be optional because other characters may or may not have have notable qualities like that in regards to Concept)<br />
<br />
Sorry [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]], but IMO, relationships make more sense to me in the story section.<br />
Your reference ideas if they have a basis in history can be a subsection under Trivia but on top of Fandom.<br />
<br />
What worries me is the position of the Backstory section.<br />
If it's on top, 1.it can possibly spoil the story, but if it's under it, 2. it may repeat what the story already stated (though a simple fix may correct that 3. is that it shouldn't be a sub and be italicized and crammed somehere)<br />
So far, I'm with # 2, anyone else has their own spin on this?<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
===Character infobox lists===<br />
> [[Mima]]. Tony did an revision ([http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Mima&oldid=217577]) with using "small" for text between the brackets for specifing the stage and stuff. It looks ok imo, though, for that a template should be created so a page isn's spammed with all "<nowiki><small></nowiki>" and <nowiki><br /></nowiki> stuff. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>(dutch)</sup> 16:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did this simply because of lack of space. I'm trying to find way reduce space without harm and is why I suggested 350. I don't know any other methods apart from <nowiki><small></nowiki>. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== May I add the lyrics to some songs? ==<br />
<br />
Just got a copy of Funny Party in the Fog, and was going to add some of the lyrics, but then I saw the line that says "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!" So this is me asking permission to add the lyrics for some of the songs. I'm sure they're copyrighted somewhere, so I thought it would be safer to ask.<br />
--[[User:Flanchan|Flanchan]] 01:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding the lyrics for songs is fine for as long as you don't just copy and paste other people's translations without crediting them. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Heaven within the Youkai mountain? ==<br />
<br />
I believe there should be a location category called "Worlds Above" (天空) in the "outside Gensokyou" section. The "underworld" has its own category, so I suppose there should be a category for everything above gensokyo as well. The netherworld/hakugyukuro/heaven could be moved to this section (I'm not sure if the netherworld required its own category...The Hakugyokuro could even be a subcategory within the "netherworld" page). I would also add in the senkai (仙界) there, which is where the bosses of th13 moved over to after leaving the mausoleum beneath Myouren temple. Maybe even the "Dragon Palace" (竜宮) in the thunderstorm clouds as well...though i'm not sure if there's enough facts for it to have a page of its own. <br />
<br />
Heaven and the Youkai mountain isn't literally connected by a road. It's more like a summit where the open passage through the clouds above are visible.<br />
Right now according to the wiki, it looks as if the Yama sends you to the youkai mountain once you reach ascension... [[User:Tren|Tren]] 03:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Stubs ==<br />
<br />
Now the "stub" template isn't very clear. Yes, the page isn't fully finished and defenitly needs revision, but I think the "stub" template could be expanded for a bit. So having different kinds of stubs, "Translation stubs", "Character stubs", "Game stubs" etc. My idea is that when you do something like <br />
<pre><br />
{{Stub|Game|(list of stuff that needs to be done)}}<br />
</pre><br />
The first "Game" will be categorized as "<nowiki>[[Category:Game stubs]]</nowiki><br />
<br />
And the template will show a very small box with small text, and using the <nowiki><toggledisplay></nowiki> to show and hide the small list of tasks. And in the middle "This article about a game is a stub. If you can add to it in any way, please do so."<br />
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Sure, it could be put on the community portal, but it is useless to put every stub there. And for things like fangames it could be usefill. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 00:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fan doujins by character? ==<br />
<br />
I figured I would get some input before starting this. I figured that there are a lot of Touhou Doujins out there with alot of characters...I figured maybe we can put up a page and list the doujins on the character by appearance?<br />
<br />
We don't have to go around digging for them...it's something to add to when we come across them. [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 21:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Incomplete Translations ==<br />
<br />
There are plenty of pages for songs or literature that haven't been translated into English. Cage in Lunatic Runagate's seventh chapter is nearly entirely blank, the eighth chapter is also incomplete and the afterword has no English at all. That's just one example. I was wondering who has the knowledge to translate these sorts of things, as the pages seem very half-done without them. [[User:DarkMarxSoul|DarkMarxSoul]] 00:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10102.60.html Good luck there... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 00:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "Fake" games ==<br />
<br />
I was just looking at [[fan-made_characters/Rinbokusan_Sasaki]] and it says she was made for a "fake" touhou game.<br />
<br />
What is a "Fake" game? Perhaps a more descriptive term could be used to describe such games? I certainly wouldn't want players calling any games I create "fake" --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== "Fake" games ==<br />
<br />
I was just looking at [[fan-made_characters/Rinbokusan_Sasaki]] and it says she was made for a "fake" touhou game.<br />
<br />
What is a "Fake" game? Perhaps a more descriptive term could be used to describe such games? I certainly wouldn't want players calling any games I create "fake" --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Talk:Touhou_Wiki&diff=219273Talk:Touhou Wiki2011-09-17T19:25:13Z<p>Tsukihime: /* "Fake" games */ new section</p>
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=== Character Page Sections ===<br />
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I'm using the [[Reimu]] page as a baseline along with the new InfoBox layout.<br />
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Right now, the sections are divided like this;<br />
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:Main Description<br />
:(Contents Box here)<br />
:1 Concept<br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 Occupation<br />
::1.4 Relationships<br />
:2 Story<br />
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::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
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:6 Official Sources<br />
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Currently, I'm thinking of chopping out section 1.3 and merging it with the Main Description. I think that the first few paragraphs of the page should describe the character briefly, its personality and the character's status quo(Ex. Reimu is a shrine maiden who solves incidents). I find that very hard to do without repeating myself in the occupations section. The InfoBox also has a occupations section.<br />
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Also, I don't think that 1.4 fits well in "Concept". Relationships are not part of the character's concept; the name is, the appearance is, but not the relationships. Should we put this section somewhere else?<br />
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Many other pages are like this and currently the model for the InfoBox layout is like this. Should we change/standardize it?<br />
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[[User:Sefam|Sefam]] 04:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I feel that 1.4 would allow to see how the relationships evolve over time if it's under story.<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Note that "concept" is all optional. If some information is too short and fits better in the intro that is good, I guess. And other optional subheadings are fine too, like for the ability. And subsubheadings could be used too (Refering to [[Yukari Yakumo]]). ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 16:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Right, I understand that.<br />
For example, not all characters have a special occupation([[Rin|Rin]]) or notable ability that has to be explained ([[Yuugi]]) <br />
It was more along the lines that the information, if they did have that stuff, should be presented the same way in the same places if they are there.<br />
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This is what I'm thinking...<br />
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(These borrow elements from Sefam and UTW and one other person I'm forgetting. Sorry.)<br />
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:Main Description<br />
A short Summary of Character on top of Contents box<br />
:(Contents Box here) <br />
:1 Concept <br />
::1.1 Name<br />
::1.2 Appearance<br />
::1.3 (Personality) <br />
::1.4 (Some other thing) *Optional<br />
:2 Story (with links to their dialogue)<br />
:2.1 BackStory *Maybe Optional... (Reason being I'm not sure if all characters do have a backstory)<br />
::2.2 Relationships<br />
:3 Additional Info<br />
::3.1 Trivia<br />
::3.2 Fandom<br />
::3.3 (Some other thing that doesn't fit under these two) *Optional<br />
::(Other notable thing goes here) *Optional<br />
:4 Spell Cards<br />
:5 Official Profiles<br />
:6 Official Source<br />
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(The top is subject to change)<br />
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What I find missing often is a summary on top of the profile, dialogue, appearance is missing, things like that.<br />
So, tell me what you think!<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, something like that, plus a maybe reference (youtube for example). But I think relationships should be part of "concept". ~ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 19:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry, too many pages to keep track of and I thought things were finally settled on. One, I suggested the optional Personality under Concept, in case that ever needs more elaboration than what's touched on in the opening summary. <br />
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Two, I don't believe Relationships makes much sense under "Concept", which along with what Nazeo said, implies to me that it should be used mostly for the bare bones of a character. I wonder if this is too rigid a thought. Obviously the other option is to forget this very literal definition, cram it all under Concept again and leave Story for that alone, especially since Story is so lengthy for some characters. <br />
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Also, thinking about the way I laid out some articles like [[Mononobe no Futo]] or [[Toyosatomimi no Miko]] when adding the historical/fictional/mythological basis, I realized Name and these descriptions usually go hand in hand in most articles, so I thought Name should be renamed Name and Basis or something (when Basis information is available, anyway).[[User:UTW|UTW]] 04:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Don't be sorry, I'm just making sure that the work on these don't conflict later.<br />
(Also, while I agree with what you said about the relationships. it was [[User:Sefam]] who stated that, not me, lol)<br />
I looked at your work and I agree with the set-up, (though I added Relationships as a later thing)<br />
For Basis, it translates back as concept, so I think that'll work for now unless it's like [[Rin]] who's occupation may have a reference to Buddhism and makes the character (which would be optional because other characters may or may not have have notable qualities like that in regards to Concept)<br />
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Sorry [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]], but IMO, relationships make more sense to me in the story section.<br />
Your reference ideas if they have a basis in history can be a subsection under Trivia but on top of Fandom.<br />
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What worries me is the position of the Backstory section.<br />
If it's on top, 1.it can possibly spoil the story, but if it's under it, 2. it may repeat what the story already stated (though a simple fix may correct that 3. is that it shouldn't be a sub and be italicized and crammed somehere)<br />
So far, I'm with # 2, anyone else has their own spin on this?<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 21:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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===Character infobox lists===<br />
> [[Mima]]. Tony did an revision ([http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Mima&oldid=217577]) with using "small" for text between the brackets for specifing the stage and stuff. It looks ok imo, though, for that a template should be created so a page isn's spammed with all "<nowiki><small></nowiki>" and <nowiki><br /></nowiki> stuff. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>(dutch)</sup> 16:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I did this simply because of lack of space. I'm trying to find way reduce space without harm and is why I suggested 350. I don't know any other methods apart from <nowiki><small></nowiki>. {{User:Tony64/Sig}} 16:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== May I add the lyrics to some songs? ==<br />
<br />
Just got a copy of Funny Party in the Fog, and was going to add some of the lyrics, but then I saw the line that says "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!" So this is me asking permission to add the lyrics for some of the songs. I'm sure they're copyrighted somewhere, so I thought it would be safer to ask.<br />
--[[User:Flanchan|Flanchan]] 01:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding the lyrics for songs is fine for as long as you don't just copy and paste other people's translations without crediting them. [[User:Master Bigode|Master Bigode]] 02:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Heaven within the Youkai mountain? ==<br />
<br />
I believe there should be a location category called "Worlds Above" (天空) in the "outside Gensokyou" section. The "underworld" has its own category, so I suppose there should be a category for everything above gensokyo as well. The netherworld/hakugyukuro/heaven could be moved to this section (I'm not sure if the netherworld required its own category...The Hakugyokuro could even be a subcategory within the "netherworld" page). I would also add in the senkai (仙界) there, which is where the bosses of th13 moved over to after leaving the mausoleum beneath Myouren temple. Maybe even the "Dragon Palace" (竜宮) in the thunderstorm clouds as well...though i'm not sure if there's enough facts for it to have a page of its own. <br />
<br />
Heaven and the Youkai mountain isn't literally connected by a road. It's more like a summit where the open passage through the clouds above are visible.<br />
Right now according to the wiki, it looks as if the Yama sends you to the youkai mountain once you reach ascension... [[User:Tren|Tren]] 03:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
==Cirno Tokens==<br />
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<br />
[[User:Nazeo|♥★♦]] 16:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Stubs ==<br />
<br />
Now the "stub" template isn't very clear. Yes, the page isn't fully finished and defenitly needs revision, but I think the "stub" template could be expanded for a bit. So having different kinds of stubs, "Translation stubs", "Character stubs", "Game stubs" etc. My idea is that when you do something like <br />
<pre><br />
{{Stub|Game|(list of stuff that needs to be done)}}<br />
</pre><br />
The first "Game" will be categorized as "<nowiki>[[Category:Game stubs]]</nowiki><br />
<br />
And the template will show a very small box with small text, and using the <nowiki><toggledisplay></nowiki> to show and hide the small list of tasks. And in the middle "This article about a game is a stub. If you can add to it in any way, please do so."<br />
<br />
Sure, it could be put on the community portal, but it is useless to put every stub there. And for things like fangames it could be usefill. ☢ [[User:Quwanti|Quwanti]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quwanti|Talk]])</sup> 00:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Fan doujins by character? ==<br />
<br />
I figured I would get some input before starting this. I figured that there are a lot of Touhou Doujins out there with alot of characters...I figured maybe we can put up a page and list the doujins on the character by appearance?<br />
<br />
We don't have to go around digging for them...it's something to add to when we come across them. [[User:MaronaPossessed|MaronaPossessed]] 21:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Incomplete Translations ==<br />
<br />
There are plenty of pages for songs or literature that haven't been translated into English. Cage in Lunatic Runagate's seventh chapter is nearly entirely blank, the eighth chapter is also incomplete and the afterword has no English at all. That's just one example. I was wondering who has the knowledge to translate these sorts of things, as the pages seem very half-done without them. [[User:DarkMarxSoul|DarkMarxSoul]] 00:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10102.60.html Good luck there... [[User:Berzul|Berzul]] 00:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== "Fake" games ==<br />
<br />
I was just looking at [[fan-made_characters/Rinbokusan_Sasaki]] and it says she was made for a "fake" touhou game.<br />
<br />
What is a "Fake" game? Perhaps a more descriptive term could be used to describe such games? I certainly wouldn't want players calling any games I create "fake" --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Sanae_Kochiya&diff=218297Sanae Kochiya2011-09-10T23:11:32Z<p>Tsukihime: /* Relationships */</p>
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<div>{{Infobox Character<br />
| nameJp ={{ruby-ja|東風谷|こちや}} {{ruby-ja|早苗|さなえ}}<br />
| nameEn =Sanae Kochiya<br />
| nameIPA = kot͡ɕija sanae [[Media:Sanae.ogg|(♫)]]<br />
| nameAlt =Sanae Kotiya<br />
| image =[[File:Th13Sanae.png|150px|Sanae]]<br />
| caption=Sanae as she appeared in [[Ten Desires]].<br />
| chartitle = {{H:title|{{lang|ja|山の新人神様}}|Newbie Goddess of the Mountain}} ([[UFO]], [[TD]])<br />{{H:title|我欲の巫女|Selfish Shrine Maiden}} ([[TD]])<br />
| species =[[Human]] ''(not native to [[Gensokyo]])'', descendant of a goddess<br />
| abilities =Power to cause miracles to occur<br />
| occupation =[[Wind Priestess]], [[Shrine Maiden]]<br />
| location =[[Moriya Shrine]], was originally from the [[Outside World]]<br />
| MusicThemes = *{{H:title|{{lang|ja|信仰は儚き人間の為に}}|Faith is for the Transient People}} ([[Mountain of Faith]], [[Touhou Hisoutensoku]])<br />
| appOfficialgames = *[[Mountain of Faith]] (Stage 5 Midboss, Stage 5 Boss)<br />
*[[Subterranean Animism]] (Extra Stage Midboss)<br />
*[[Undefined Fantastic Object]] (Playable Character)<br />
*[[Touhou Hisoutensoku]] (Playable Character, Possible Opponent)<br />
*[[Double Spoiler]] (Scene EX-3, EX-6, EX-9 Boss)<br />
*[[Ten Desires]] (Playable Character)<br />
|appPrintworks = *[[Silent Sinner in Blue]] (Chapter 9 Cameo)<br />
*[[Wild and Horned Hermit]] (Secondary Character)<br />
|appMusicCDs = *[[Touhou Hisoutensoku OST]] (CD cover)<br />
}}<br />
'''Sanae Kochiya''' ({{lang|ja|東風谷 早苗}} ''Kochiya Sanae'') is a [[human]], but is also a distant descendant of a [[god]], [[Suwako Moriya]]. Her role at the [[Moriya Shrine]] is similar to a [[Shrine Maiden]], but with her inherited power Sanae has become more like a deity herself.<br />
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She was introduced in [[Mountain of Faith]] and later became a playable character in [[Undefined Fantastic Object]] and [[Ten Desires]]. She is now a secondary character in the comic [[Wild and Horned Hermit]].<br />
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==Concept==<br />
===Name===<br />
''Sanae'' can mean "rice seedling" or "early seedling", and ''Kochiya'' "eastern wind valley". (The same "east" ({{lang|ja|東}}) as in Touhou ({{lang|ja|東方}}), and the same "wind" ({{lang|ja|風}}) as in Fuujinroku ({{lang|ja|東方風神録}}.)<br />
The name ''Sanae'' could come from an old lady named ''Sanae Moriya'' ({{lang|ja|守矢早苗}}), who is the 78th head of Moriya family. The family were supposed to succeed to one of the priests of the [[Wikipedia:Suwa_Taisha|Suwa Grand Shrine]], Jin Choukan ({{lang|ja|神長官}}, God Director). She is said to be a descendant of "Moreyashin" ({{lang|ja|洩矢神}}, the god Moreya), the first ancestor of the Moriya, according to the family tree located in the shrine. ("Moreya" is an archaic, alternate pronunciation of "Moriya".)<br />
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===Appearance===<br />
In her first appearance in ''[[Mountain of Faith]]'' she wears a blue and white outfit similar to a [[shrine maiden]]'s with light blue polka dots and stripes covering the blue areas. She has long light green hair, and yellow eyes. Wears a snake-shaped hair accessory wrapped around her hair on one side, and a hair clip shaped like a frog's head (both probably meant to represent [[Kanako Yasaka|Kanako]] and Suwako). Carries a gohei with straight paper decorations as opposed to the typical gohei.<br />
Her eyes later changed green in ''[[Undefined Fantastic Object]]'' and blue in ''[[Touhou Hisoutensoku]]''. <br />
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In ''[[Ten Desires]]'' her appearance changed. Now her hair color is slightly paler, her eyes are a dark green, her skirt is at a shorter length, and she wears maroon colored boots instead of aquamarine colored shoes.<br />
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===Personality===<br />
In one views Mountain of Faith's endings, Sanae's quirkiness shows itself as some have Kanako revealing her true intentions, which were much different than Reimu and Marisa thought. In retrospect, she was really rude to those she was dueling with in [[Subterranean Animism]], Undefined Fantastic Object, and Touhou Hisoutensoku.<br />
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As she is from the [[outside world]] she does know a lot about stuff of the modern living. That is due to her knowledgable about [[Wikipedia:Anime|anime]] and [[Wikipedia:Manga|manga]] and the modern living. Her thoughts that [[Hisoutensoku]] could be a robot are from those knowledge.<ref>[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Scenario|Touhou Hisoutensoku: Sanae's Scenario]]. '''Sanae:''' "In any case, that giant robot... figure can't exactly hide."</ref> And she does sometimes referring to a movie she saw. Also in Wild and Horned Hermit, Sanae is shown to be knowledgeable about science and explains everything in a scientific way that the residents of [[Gensokyo]] cannot understand clearly.<br />
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===Occupation===<br />
She is the shrine maiden of the Moriya Shrine.<br />
--><br />
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==Story==<br />
;Mountain of Faith<br />
:{{Main|Mountain_of_Faith/Translation/Reimu's_Scenario#Stage_5|l1=Mountain of Faith Story Reimu Arc|Mountain_of_Faith/Translation/Marisa's_Scenario#Stage_5|l2=Mountain of Faith Story Marisa Arc}}<br />
When humans on the outside world began losing their faith in her and Kanako, the shrine's actual deity, Kanako decided to move the shrine to Gensokyo where at least [[youkai]] might have faith in them. During the events of ''Mountain of Faith'' Sanae tried threatening the [[Hakurei Shrine]] in order to establish the Moriya Shrine as the dominant one, not realizing how powerful humans like [[Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]] and [[Marisa Kirisame|Marisa]] were. In response to the threats Sanae was defeated by the heroine followed shortly after by Kanako and Suwako's defeat. However, the residents of the Moriya Shrine have since come to an understanding with their new neighbors and live in peace with the other residents of Youkai Mountain.<br />
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;Undefined Fantastic Object<br />
:{{Main|Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation/Sanae A's Scenario|l1=Undefined Fantastic Object Story Sanae A Arc|Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation/Sanae B's Scenario|l2=Undefined Fantastic Object Story Sanae B Arc}}<br />
In ''Undefined Fantastic Object'', depending on the scenario, she is ordered either by Kanako to train her own abilities by hunting [[Youkai]] or by Suwako to find the Treasure Ship, depending on this, her secondary bullet will become a snake or a frog.<br />
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;Touhou Hisoutensoku<br />
:{{Main|Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Scenario|l1=Touhou Hisoutensoku Story}}<br />
In ''Touhou Hisoutensoku'', thinking that a gigantic robot appeared in Gensokyo, she is in pursuit of the giant figure, when she stumbles into a giant pit to the nuclear reactor run by [[Utsuho Reiuji]] and learns that Suwako is responsible for creating the robot figure, Hisoutensoku.<br />
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;Ten Desires<br />
:{{Main|Ten Desires/Translation/Sanae's Scenario|l1=Ten Desires Story}}<br />
She notices the strange spirit at the Moriya Shrine in ''Ten Desires'' and knows what they are, [[divine spirit]]s, born due to a very strong feeling of human greed, fear, desire and feelings. She takes the opportunity to gather the divine spirits, as it is the same as gathering faith of the human. Though, she can't from a reason why those divine spirits form in the first place.<br />
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===Relationships===<br />
She moved with the Moriya Shrine to Gensokyo with the gods of the shrine, [[Kanako Yasaka]] and [[Suwako Moriya]]. And it makes much sense that she know those two. With the fact that Sanae is a distant descendant of Suwako. Within the Story of Mountain of Faith, Kanako send Sanae out to collect faith. Just like [[Yukari Yakumo|Yukari]], she uses Kanako and Suwako, two characters who she is related to as spell and skill cards.<br />
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She could have a friendly relationship with ''Marisa Kirisame'' and ''Reimu Hakurei'' as Sanae is visiting the two in the [[Hakurei Shrine]] in the [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]] of Undefined Fantastic Object.<br />
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==Additional Information==<br />
===Trivia===<br />
*In [[Mountain of Faith]], her [[Spell Card]] [[Mountain of Faith/Spell Cards/Stage 5#Spell Card 66|Sea Opening "The Day the Sea Split"]] is a similar copy of [[Alice Margatroid|Alice]]'s Second Attack in [[Mystic Square]]'s Extra Stage.<br />
*Sanae is the only [[Windows]] Extra Stage mid-boss ([[Subterranean Animism]]) who hasn't appeared as a boss before in the specific game. [[File:GoMSigil-Sanae.jpg|frame|Sanae's sigil as seen in [[the Grimoire of Marisa]].]]<br />
*[[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Sanae Kochiya#Spell Card 8|One of Sanae's Spell Cards]] in [[Touhou Hisoutensoku]] strongly resembles [[Wikipedia:Akuma (Street Fighter)|Shin Akuma]]'s "Misogi" from ''Capcom vs. SNK''<br />
*In her last stage of Touhou Hisoutensoku, despite the fact that Sanae is fighting against Suwako, Sanae can still use skills summoning Suwako to her aid (e.g. Using [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Spell Cards/Sanae Kochiya#Skill Card 8|Summon Earth's God: Metal Ring]]), to attack Suwako.<br />
*In Touhou Hisoutensoku Sanae's Character Portrait shows her having blue eyes, her sprite however, has yellow eyes.<br />
*In Hisoutensoku, Sanae has alternate colors that resemble [[Rumia]]'s, [[Fujiwara no Mokou|Mokou]]'s and [[Mystia Lorelei|Mystia]]'s outfits.<br />
**And one of Reimu's alternate colors resembles Sanae.<br />
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===Fandom===<br />
*Since the release of Undefined Fantastic Object and Touhou Hisoutensoku, Sanae's popular image has shifted from soft spoken and demure to markedly eccentric with her knowledge of robots, anime and enthusiasm for aliens.<br />
*Sanae's appearance in Subterranean Animism was unexpected by many. Due to that, the fact that she says "You can't worry about common sense in Gensokyo, right?", and her "[[Subterranean Animism/Spell Cards/Extra#Spell Card 164|Miracle Fruit]]" spell card sounding cute and girly while all of her other spell cards from Mountain of Faith sound much more stoic has earned her the nickname of "{{lang|ja|フルーツ(笑)}}" ("Fruit (lol)"), based on the "{{lang|ja|スイーツ(笑)}}" ("Sweets (lol)") label, referring to airheaded girls who follow fads without really understanding them. In other words, Sanae is seen as kind of a ditz.<br />
*Another nickname among the Japanese fans is "{{lang|ja|絶対許早苗}}" ("Zettai Yuru-Sanae"), a pun of "{{lang|ja|絶対許さない}}" ("Zettai Yurusanai", or "absolutely unforgiving"). This is due to her aggressiveness towards youkai, particularly [[Kogasa Tatara|Kogasa]]. The nickname is usually combined with a picture of her smug expression from Undefined Fantastic Object against a yellow-and-red-striped background ([[wikipedia:Flag_of_the_Republic_of_Macedonia|the Flag of Macedonia]]), which is a parody of a famous meme of [[Wikipedia:Futaba Channel|Futaba Channel]], "Maji-resu", a serious reply to a troll/joke post.<br />
*Since Sanae is originally from the outside world, some fans draw her in a schoolgirl uniform.<br />
*Sanae is often shown in fanart as rather large chested.<br />
*Sanae's sleeves are detached from her shirt, just like [[Reimu Hakurei|Reimu]]'s. As a result, it is possible to use Sanae as the subject of the "armpit joke" rather than Reimu. However, Sanae armpit jokes are rare compared to Reimu armpit jokes.<br />
*Since Sanae's outfit is similar to Reimu's, fans often refer to her as "Player 2 Reimu" or "2P Reimu", a character who, just like in most computer games, will take over Reimu's position if Reimu (as Player 1) is knocked out.<br />
**It makes it more fun that there is a alternate palette of Reimu that resembles Sanae's outfit. [[File:Th12SanaeMan.png|frame|Her pose in Undefined Fantastic Object.]]<br />
*With Reimu's red outfit and Sanae's green hair, there are even running gags equating the two shrine maidens with the Mario Brothers.<br />
*"Sanae is a good girl" has surfaced as a meme, in the English speaking community, as a result of page 29 from one of [[Happy Flame Time]]'s comics, entitled ''[[Happy Flame Time#Cold Wind but Warm Winter (2007-12-31)|Cold Wind but Warm Winter]]''. <br />
*Some Western Touhou fans have noticed that when Sanae moves horizontally in Undefined Fantastic Object, her pose resembles [[Wikipedia:Superman|Superman]].<br />
*Because of Sanae's appearances in numerous titles, many fans in the west have drawn parallels with her to [[Aya Shameimaru]] and refer to her as [[ZUN]]'s "other girlfriend". In addition, since Sanae is often seen as somewhat ditzy and large-chested, as well as the fact that she most likely came straight out of high-school, various Japanese fans (including a number of doujin artists) also portray her in a similarly lascivious manner.<br />
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==Spell Cards==<br />
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==Official Profiles==<br />
===[[Mountain of Faith]]===<br />
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| text = ○5面ボス 祀られる風の人間<br /><br />
東風谷 早苗(こちや さなえ)<br /><br />
Kotiya Sanae<br />
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種族:人間<br /><br />
職業:風祝<br /><br />
能力:奇跡を起こす程度の能力<br />
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一子相伝の秘術を持つ人間である。<br /><br />
性格はいたって真面目で、自分の力に自信を持っている。時には過信しすぎる事もある。<br />
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元々は、風の神様を祀る人間だったらしいのだが、秘密の多い秘術で雨や風を降らす奇跡を起こしているうちに、周りの人間は秘術を行う人間自体を信仰するようになっていった。<br />
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つまり、風の神様が起こしていた奇跡を、いつの間にか人間が起こしていると勘違いし始めたのだ。<br />
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それにより、彼女ら秘術を扱う人間は人間でありながら信仰を集め、神と同等の扱いを受けるようになった。現人神である。<br />
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早苗は幼い頃から、口伝でしか伝えられていない奇跡を呼ぶ秘術をマスターしていた。子供でありながら奇跡を呼ぶ彼女は、多くの信仰を集められる――筈であった。<br />
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しかし、外の世界は大きく様変わりしていた。神徳の多い神様でさえ信仰する人間が激減していた。当然、人間でありながら神となった現<人神など、信仰する人間は殆ど存在しなかったのだ。<br /><br />
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早苗は別に信仰がなくても、普通の人間として生活できるから問題はなかったのだが、早苗が祀っている神様、神奈子はそうはいかなかった。<br />
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神様は信仰を失うと力も失う。神徳も出せなくなる。<br /><br />
それは神の死に等しい。<br />
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神奈子は決断した。人間から信仰を集めるには限界がある。これからは妖怪の信仰を集める事も考えないといけない、と。<br />
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早苗はその具体的な計画を聞き驚いた。我が国には昔から『幻想郷』という世界があった。その世界は今でもひっそりと存在しているのだという。幻想郷では外の世界で失われた(幻想になった)物が集まる。<br /><br />
つまり神への信仰も、幻想郷に移りつつあると考えられる。<br /><br />
そこで神奈子は、幻想郷に神社ごと移動すると言うのである。人間の世界との決別であった。<br /><br />
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人間の世界との別れは恐怖であったが、それ以上に奇跡を起こす力を持っていた彼女にとって、奇跡の世界へ行く事は楽しみであった。<br />
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彼女は幻想郷の人間を正直なめていた。唯一の博麗神社を脅せば幻想郷自体、自分達の思い通りになると考えていたのである。彼女は霊夢に脅しを入れに行き、そして今回のように逆に痛い目にあってしまったのだ。<br />
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幻想郷に住む人間は、彼女が思う以上に厄介であり、そして力を持っている事を彼女は思い知らされた。<br />
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ここでは、彼女は特別な存在ではない。現人神なんかではなく、ただの人間となっている事に気付いたのだ。<br /><br />
これからは幻想郷の人間として普通に生きていくしかないのである。<br />
| translation = '''Deified Human of the Wind'''<br /><br />
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Sanae Kochiya<br />
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Species: [[Human]]<br /><br />
Occupation: Wind Priestess<br /><br />
Special Ability: Power to cause miracles to occur.<br />
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A human privy to secrets handed down through the generations.<br /><br />
She has a very straightforward personality, so she has a lot of confidence in her own abilities.<br /><br />
Sometimes, perhaps a bit too much confidence.<br />
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Wind Priestesses were originally a devotees of the wind god, but as they used their secret abilities to create miracles such as summoning the wind and rain, the people around them began to believe in these humans with mysterious abilities.<br />
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In short, over time, people began to mistake the miracles caused by the wind god as being caused by them.<br />
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In addition, as keepers of secrets, they began to accrue faith and be treated as gods, even though they were humans. They became living gods.<br />
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When she was young, Sanae had mastered the secrets to call upon miracles that had been passed down through her family. A young girl that could call upon the power of miracles would certainly collect great amounts of faith --- one would expect.<br />
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However, the outside world had changed a great deal. Faith in even gods with many divine virtues had been decreasing rapidly. There were few who would worship even a living god who had attained divinity during their life as a human.<br /><br />
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Though she didn't really have much faith, Sanae was able to live as a normal human without any real problems, but this would not do for the god she worshiped, [[Kanako Yasaka|Kanako]].<br />
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When people lose faith in gods, the gods lose their power. They can't manifest their divine virtues. This is the same as death, for a god.<br />
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Kanako came to a decision. There were limits to the amount of faith that could come from humans. From now on, she would have to also look to youkai as a source of her faith.<br />
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Sanae was surprised to hear the details of her plan: a world called "[[Gensokyo]]" has existed within our nation since time immemorial. It is said that this world still exists, hidden.<br />
Gensokyo has collected a number of things that have become lost - or, become fantasy - in the outside world. One could say that even people's faith in gods is in the process of moving to Gensokyo.<br /><br />
And so, Kanako decided to move her [[Moriya Shrine|shrine]] into Gensokyo. She would say farewell to the world of humans.<br /><br />
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Sanae was afraid of leaving the world of humans, but as a person with the power to call on miracles, the anticipation she felt for going to a world of miracles outweighed her terror.<br />
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She did not take the humans of Gensokyo seriously. She thought that if they threatened the only shrine in Gensokyo, the [[Hakurei Shrine]], Gensokyo itself would submit to their every wish. She went to deliver her ominous message to Reimu, and then was in turn defeated.<br />
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The humans who lived in Gensokyo were more troublesome than she'd imagined, and in time she learned of the power they held, as well.<br />
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Here, she was nothing special.<br /><br />
She realized she had gone from being a god incarnate to just a normal human being.<br /><br />
All she could do now was to live a normal, peaceful life as a human of Gensokyo.<br />
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===[[Undefined Fantastic Object]]===<br />
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| image = [[File:Th12Sanae.png|160px|Sanae Kochiya UFO]]<br />
| text = ○山の新人神様<br /><br />
東風谷 早苗(こちや さなえ)<br /><br />
Kotiya Sanae<br />
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種族:人間<br /><br />
能力:奇跡を起こす程度の能力<br />
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妖怪の山にある守矢神社に住む巫女さん。妖怪退治は不慣れ。<br />
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普段は神様と妖怪達に囲まれて暮している為、人間の話し相手が欲しいと思っているが、麓の人間は妖怪染みた人間ばかり。<br /><br />
そのうち、自分のああなるのかと少しだけ心配している。<br /><br />
でも、現人神と慕われただけあって妖怪にも劣らないが、少々惚けた所もある。<br />
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神奈子に言われて妖怪退治の真似事をしてみたり……幻想郷に慣れようとしている。<br />
| translation = '''The Newbie Goddess of the Mountain'''<br /><br />
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Sanae Kochiya<br />
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Species: [[Human]]<br /><br />
Ability: Power to cause miracles<br />
<br />
The [[Shrine Maiden]] living in [[Moriya Shrine]] in [[Youkai Mountain]]. She is not used to youkai hunting.<br />
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She wishes to talk to humans more, because she lives with gods and youkai, but most of humans living around the foot of the mountain are youkai-like humans. She is worried about becoming like them. As may be expected of a living god, she is as strong as youkai, but she is also somewhat innocent.<br />
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She tries to do something like youkai hunting on [[Kanako Yasaka|Kanako]]'s recommendation, and... she makes an effort to get used to [[Gensokyo]].<br />
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===[[Touhou Hisoutensoku]] - official website===<br />
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| image = [[File:Th123SanaeKochiya.png|160px|Sanae Kotiya]]<br />
| text = ○祀られる風の人間<br /><br />
東風谷 早苗(こちや さなえ)<br />
<br />
幻想郷に来てから早二年経とうとしていた。<br /><br />
初めは異形なる者に対して畏怖から、まともに儀式も行えなかったが、今ではすっかり馴染み、違和感なく通常の仕事を行う事が出来た。<br />
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もう、多少の事では驚かないと思っていた。<br /><br />
勿論、そう思ってしまったら必ず驚かされるのが幻想郷である。<br /><br />
そこが外の世界にはない幻想郷の長所であった。<br />
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彼女は、守矢神社から見える巨大な人影を見ていた。<br /><br />
人影は神社よりも遥かにでかい、彼女にとっての古典的な表現では十階建ての高層ビル位はあるだろうか。<br />
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その人影は、彼女には昔アニメで見た巨大人型ロボットに見えた。<br />
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しかし、ロボットと言うには動きが滑らかすぎた。<br /><br />
まるで生きているかの様に動く人影は、時には山に望み、時には里を睨みそして突然霧に包まれたあと、不気味なほど静かに消えた。<br />
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その事を神奈子に報告すると、それは「ブロッケンの妖怪」だと教えてくれた。<br /><br />
ブロッケンの妖怪とは、自分の影が霧に映り巨人に見える気象現象である。<br />
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実際何らかの気象現象かなんかであろう、そう考えてしまう自分の思考回路が面白くなかった。<br /><br />
だから彼女は、あの影は里を襲う巨大ロボだと思う事にした。<br /><br />
そう考えると調査が楽しいからである。<br />
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そう、アレは決して霧に映った影などではない。<br /><br />
霧が出てきたのは人影が出た後だったし、何より、ここは何が起こってもおかしくない場所、幻想郷なのだから。<br />
| translation = '''Human of the Worshipped Wind'''<br /><br />
Sanae Kochiya<br />
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It had already been two years since she came to Gensokyo. At first, she was so frightened by the bizarre monsters that she simply couldn't perform the rituals of a shrine maiden, but now she had become familiar with them, and carried out her daily jobs without any discomfort.<br />
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She thought that she wouldn't be surprised by some things any more. Of course, thinking like that in Gensokyo ensures that you will be surprised. That is Gensokyo's strong point, not present in the outside world.<br />
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She saw the huge figure from the Moriya Shrine. The figure was far bigger than the shrine. She guessed that, to use a classical comparison, it was about as big as a ten-story building.<br />
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The figure seemed to her like a giant robot from some [[Wikipedia:Gundam|old anime]] she had watched.<br />
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But its movements were too smooth to be a robot's. The figure moved as if it were alive, occasionally overlooking the mountain, occasionally shooting a glare at the village. Then, it was suddenly shrouded in mist, and disappeared with an uncanny silence.<br />
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When she reported it to Kanako, she told her it was the [[Wikipedia:Brocken_spectre|"Brocken specter."]] The Brocken specter is a meteorological phenomenon caused by a reflection of your own shadow on mist that seems to the observer to be a giant.<br />
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In reality, be it a meteorological phenomenon or something else, thinking like that wasn't interesting. So she decided to think of that shadow as a giant robot attacking the village. Because that would make thinking about it more fun.<br />
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That's right, that definitely wasn't a shadow reflected in mist. After all, the mist hadn't appeared until after the figure was already there. More than anything, though, because this was a place where nothing was too strange to happen: Gensokyo.<br />
}}<br />
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===[[東方茨歌仙]] - official website===<br />
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| image = [[File:WaHHSanae.jpg|150px|Sanae Kochiya]]<br />
| text = 東風谷早苗<br /><br />
皮相浅薄な人間<br />
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少し前にできた、山の神社の巫女<br /><br />
さん。幻想郷歴が浅いこともあり、<br />かなり現代っ子な一面がある。山<br /><br />
の神社に祭られている神様は神奈<br /><br />
子と諏訪子。<br />
| translation = Sanae Kochiya<br /><br />
'''The superficial and thoughtless human'''<br />
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The [[shrine maiden]] of the shrine that was recently built on the [[Youkai Mountain]].<br /><br />
It may be because she's new to [[Gensokyo]], but she tends to show characteristics of youth.<br /><br />
The gods worshiped at the shrine are [[Kanako Yasaka|Kanako]] and [[Suwako Moriya|Suwako]]<br />
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===[[Ten Desires]]===<br />
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| image = [[File:Th13Sanae.png|150px|Sanae Kochiya TD]]<br />
| text = ○山の新人神様<br /><br />
東風谷 早苗(こちや さなえ)<br /><br />
Kochiya Sanae<br />
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種族:人間<br /><br />
能力:奇跡を起こす程度の能力<br />
<br />
妖怪の山にある守矢神社に住む巫女さん。妖怪退治は不慣れ。<br />
<br />
普段は神様と妖怪達に囲まれて暮している為、人間の話し相手が欲しいと思っているが、麓の人間は妖怪染みた人間ばかり。<br /><br />
そのうち、自分のああなるのかと少しだけ心配している。<br /><br />
でも、現人神と慕われただけあって妖怪にも劣らないが、少々惚けた所もある。<br />
<br />
神霊は神社にとって重要な霊。人間の信仰心を煽るにはこういった神霊を集める事が重要だと考えている。<br />
| translation = '''The Newbie Goddess of the Mountain'''<br /><br />
<br /><br />
Sanae Kochiya<br />
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Species: [[Human]]<br /><br />
Ability: Power to cause miracles<br />
<br />
The [[Shrine Maiden]] living in [[Moriya Shrine]] in [[Youkai Mountain]]. She is not used to youkai hunting.<br />
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She wishes to talk to humans more, because she lives with gods and youkai, but most of humans living around the foot of the mountain are youkai-like humans. She is worried about becoming like them. As may be expected of a living god, she is as strong as youkai, but she is also somewhat lackluster.<br />
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Divine spirits are very important spirits for a shrine. She thinks that in order to stir up the faith among humans, it is imperative that she must collect these spirits.<br />
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==Official Sources==<br />
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*2007/08/17 '''[[Mountain of Faith]]''' - [[Mountain of Faith/Translation|Stage 5 dialogue]]; Character Settings.txt (official profile)<br />
*2008/02/09 '''[[Silent Sinner in Blue]]''' - Chapter 9<br />
*2008/08/16 '''[[Subterranean Animism]]''' - [[Subterranean Animism/Translation|Extra Stage dialogue]]<br />
*2008/08/26 '''[[Strange and Bright Nature Deity]]''' - Chapter 22 (appearance only)<br />
*2009/07/28 '''[[The Grimoire of Marisa]]''' - [[The Grimoire of Marisa/Sanae Kochiya's Spell Cards|Sanae Kochiya's Spell Cards]]<br />
*2009/08/15 '''[[Undefined Fantastic Object]]''' - [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]; Sanae's scenario dialogue ([[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation/Sanae A's Scenario|A]], [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation/Sanae B's Scenario|B]], [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation/Sanae A's Extra|A Extra]], [[Undefined Fantastic Object/Translation/Sanae B's Extra|B Extra]]); Character Settings.txt (official profile)<br />
*2009/08/15 '''[[Touhou Hisoutensoku]]''' - [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Scenario|Sanae's scenario dialogue]]; [[Touhou Hisoutensoku/Translation/Sanae's Script|Sanae's Vs. dialogue]]; official profile<br />
*2010/03/14 '''[[Double Spoiler]]''' - [[Double Spoiler/Spell Cards/Stage EX|Stage EX spell card comments]]<br />
*2010/09/25-? '''[[Wild and Horned Hermit]]''' - Chapters 2-?<br />
*2011/04/15 '''[[Ten Desires]] Demo''' - [[Ten Desires/Translation/Prologue|Prologue]]; [[Ten Desires/Translation/Sanae's Scenario|Sanae's scenario dialogue]]; Character Settings.txt (pre-official profile)<br />
*2011/08/13 '''[[Ten Desires]]''' - Sanae's Scenario & Extra Stage dialogue<br />
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[[Category:Sanae]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD-021_banner.jpg&diff=216101File:AECD-021 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:40:40Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:AECD-021 banner.jpg]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD-021_banner.jpg&diff=216099File:AECD-021 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:40:36Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:AECD 021banner.jpg to File:AECD-021 banner.jpg</p>
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{{move|AECD-021 banner.jpg}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD-020_banner.jpg&diff=216098File:AECD-020 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:40:28Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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<div>{{album|banner}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD_020banner.jpg&diff=216097File:AECD 020banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:40:24Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:AECD 020banner.jpg to File:AECD-020 banner.jpg</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:AECD-020 banner.jpg]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD-020_banner.jpg&diff=216096File:AECD-020 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:40:24Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:AECD 020banner.jpg to File:AECD-020 banner.jpg</p>
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{{move|AECD-020 banner.jpg}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD-019_banner.jpg&diff=216095File:AECD-019 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:40:16Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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<div>{{album|banner}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD_019banner.jpg&diff=216094File:AECD 019banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:40:11Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:AECD 019banner.jpg to File:AECD-019 banner.jpg</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:AECD-019 banner.jpg]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD-019_banner.jpg&diff=216093File:AECD-019 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:40:11Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:AECD 019banner.jpg to File:AECD-019 banner.jpg</p>
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{{move|AECD-019 banner.jpg}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD-018_banner.jpg&diff=216092File:AECD-018 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:39:43Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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<div>{{album|banner}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD_018banner.jpg&diff=216091File:AECD 018banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:39:30Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:AECD 018banner.jpg to File:AECD-018 banner.jpg</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:AECD-018 banner.jpg]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:AECD-018_banner.jpg&diff=216090File:AECD-018 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:39:30Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:AECD 018banner.jpg to File:AECD-018 banner.jpg</p>
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{{move|AECD-018 banner.jpg}}</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:A1CD-0003_banner.png&diff=216089File:A1CD-0003 banner.png2011-08-30T19:39:21Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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[[Category:A-One]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:A1CD_0003banner.png&diff=216088File:A1CD 0003banner.png2011-08-30T19:39:16Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:A1CD 0003banner.png to File:A1CD-0003 banner.png</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:A1CD-0003 banner.png]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:A1CD-0003_banner.png&diff=216087File:A1CD-0003 banner.png2011-08-30T19:39:16Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:A1CD 0003banner.png to File:A1CD-0003 banner.png</p>
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[[Category:A-One]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD-0005_banner.jpg&diff=216086File:38CD-0005 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:39:07Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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[[Category:38BEETS]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD_0005banner.jpg&diff=216085File:38CD 0005banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:39:03Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:38CD 0005banner.jpg to File:38CD-0005 banner.jpg</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:38CD-0005 banner.jpg]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD-0005_banner.jpg&diff=216084File:38CD-0005 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:39:03Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:38CD 0005banner.jpg to File:38CD-0005 banner.jpg</p>
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[[Category:38BEETS]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD-0004_banner.jpg&diff=216083File:38CD-0004 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:56Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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[[Category:38BEETS]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD_0004banner.jpg&diff=216082File:38CD 0004banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:52Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:38CD 0004banner.jpg to File:38CD-0004 banner.jpg</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:38CD-0004 banner.jpg]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD-0004_banner.jpg&diff=216081File:38CD-0004 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:52Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:38CD 0004banner.jpg to File:38CD-0004 banner.jpg</p>
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[[Category:38BEETS]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD-0003_banner.jpg&diff=216080File:38CD-0003 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:45Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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[[Category:38BEETS]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD_0003banner.jpg&diff=216079File:38CD 0003banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:40Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:38CD 0003banner.jpg to File:38CD-0003 banner.jpg</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:38CD-0003 banner.jpg]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD-0003_banner.jpg&diff=216078File:38CD-0003 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:40Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:38CD 0003banner.jpg to File:38CD-0003 banner.jpg</p>
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[[Category:38BEETS]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD-0002_banner.jpg&diff=216077File:38CD-0002 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:34Z<p>Tsukihime: </p>
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[[Category:38BEETS]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD_0002banner.jpg&diff=216076File:38CD 0002banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:29Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:38CD 0002banner.jpg to File:38CD-0002 banner.jpg</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:38CD-0002 banner.jpg]]</div>Tsukihimehttps://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=File:38CD-0002_banner.jpg&diff=216075File:38CD-0002 banner.jpg2011-08-30T19:38:29Z<p>Tsukihime: moved File:38CD 0002banner.jpg to File:38CD-0002 banner.jpg</p>
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