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| ja  =急に町が出てきます。本来なら5面で見せるような変化ですが、早くもそれがここに来ちゃう。ずっと暗い背景だと、遊んでて疲れますからね。町は江戸時代的なイメージで、勇儀なんかは「てやんでぇ!」とか行って出てきそうだよね。もちろん勇儀は江戸っ子じゃあないけど、イメージだけは江戸っ子です。
| ja  =急に町が出てきます。本来なら5面で見せるような変化ですが、早くもそれがここに来ちゃう。ずっと暗い背景だと、遊んでて疲れますからね。町は江戸時代的なイメージで、勇儀なんかは「てやんでぇ!」とか行って出てきそうだよね。もちろん勇儀は江戸っ子じゃあないけど、イメージだけは江戸っ子です。
| en  =And suddenly, a town. Originally I wanted to save this for stage 5, but I got sick of all the dark backgrounds. The town has an Edo era, and Yuugi seems like the type that might shout "Teyandee!". No that she speaks like that of course
| en  =And suddenly, a town. Originally I wanted to save this for stage 5, but I got sick of all the dark backgrounds. The town has an Edo era, and Yuugi seems like the type that might shout "Teyandee!". Not that she speaks like that of course.
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| ja  =火の中って難しいですよね。いろんなゲームで火山に行くけど、はかない調子かドラムだけみたいな、あんまりイケイケな感じではないものが多くて、僕もそれにならいました。火自体にパワーがあるから、他の要素は力を抜いたほうがいいんですね。場所は地獄なんだけど、捨てられたもののさみしさを出せたらと思っています。でもそこに居る猫は元気で、ボスでは急に明るい曲がかかる。
| ja  =火の中って難しいですよね。いろんなゲームで火山に行くけど、はかない調子かドラムだけみたいな、あんまりイケイケな感じではないものが多くて、僕もそれにならいました。火自体にパワーがあるから、他の要素は力を抜いたほうがいいんですね。場所は地獄なんだけど、捨てられたもののさみしさを出せたらと思っています。でもそこに居る猫は元気で、ボスでは急に明るい曲がかかる。
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| en  =It's hard to portray being in the flames. Plenty of games have you entering a volcano, but maybe because It's transient they seem to focus on the drums, and often have a "Go, go!" feel to them. That's how I learned it too. Fire has a power all on It's own, so you should remove all other features. The setting is in Hell, but It's abandoned so I thought It'd be a little lonely. But living there is a cheerful cat, so the boss music is suddenly cheery.
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Revision as of 14:50, 30 November 2021

東方地霊殿全ステージクロスレビュー

SA Stage Review

「地霊殿」のステージとボスを、識者の方々に振り返ってもらったぞ。さとりさんは全く別次元の話をしてません?

博麗霊夢 :博麗神社の巫女さん。暗い洞窟の中でも鳥目じゃないから大丈夫。

Reimu Hakurei: Shrine maiden of the Hakurei Shrine. Doesn't get night-blind, so being in a dark cave is fine for her.

霧雨魔理沙 :普通の魔法使い。洞窟の中でも魔法で照らせば明るいぜ?

Marisa Kirisame: An ordinary magician. Even dark caves can be lit up with magic, right?

古明地さとり:他者の心を読むさとり。暗い洞窟の中でも心を読むのに不都合はない?

Satori Komeiji: A satori capable of reading the minds of others. Is there anything inconvenient about reading minds in a dark cave?

ZUN :エニグマティクデベロッパー。そろそろこの写真を新しくしたい。

ZUN: The enigmatic developer. It's about time for that image to be updated.

Stage1

ヤマメ&キスメ

Stage 1

Yamame & Kisume

Reimu


まず病気って嫌なうえに迷惑よね。あと蜘蛛も勝手に巣を張るから嫌。

0:
First of all, I hate her cause her disease thing is a real pain. Second of all, I hate her for being a spider who puts webs up everywhere.

Marisa


健康第一だ。わざと病気を広める奴が居る場所など近寄りたくない。

0
Your health is always most important. I don't wanna go anywhere near a place with someone who's intentionally spreading disease.

Satori

10
この子がいるおかげで皆洞窟に入ろうとしないのよね。絶対的に嫌われる能力がプラスになることもあるのよ。いつもありがとう。

10
It's thanks to this girl that no one wants to enter the cave. She managed to turn her absolutely detestable power into a perk. Thanks for everything, as always.

ZUN

舞台が地底になるから、最初のステージで洞窟に入っていくイメージでした。洞窟に入ると行動範囲は狭まるので、プレイヤーの主観的にはスピード感が出るように見せられたらと思って、いつもより激しい展開が待っています。蜘蛛をどうやって表現するかを考えたときに、逆さで上からつられてくるということを考えて、じゃあまずは「つるべ落とし」を出そうと思って、キスメが中ボスなんです。

The setting was the underworld, so the first stage has a cavern feeling to it. There's less space to maneuver, so I tried to lower the player's subjective sense of speed and there are more dangers than usual awaiting them. When thinking how best to portray a spider, I was considering having her hang upside-down from above when I thought "Why not just have a tsurube-otoshi then?" So I made Kisume the midboss.

Stage2

水橋パルスィ

Stage 2

Parsee Mizuhashi

Reimu


こないだうちの裏で丑の刻参りやったでしょ。やめてよね。

0
I'm sure she was pounding nails into a doll behind my house the other day. Stop that.

Marisa


こいつはとにかく性格がダメだ。陰気なうえに面倒くさい。

1
Her personality is hopeless. On top of being gloomy, she's annoying.

Satori


周囲の者をねたんでいるけれど、心の奥底ではみんなへの尊敬や憧れをちゃんと持っているわ。みんなが思っているよりもずっと優しい子よ。

8
She may be jealous of everyone around her, but deep in her heart she values and respects others. She's much kinder than everyone thinks.

ZUN

入り口は狭いけど中は広いって定番じゃないですか。そういうのがワクワクしますよね。見た目はどこを飛んでるのかわかりにくい感じだけど。イメージとしては地上と地底のちょうど中間あたり、地底に行くことを外国旅行に例えると、移動で飛行機に乗っているあたりになりますね。視界は開けているけど、やれることは少ない感じです。

The entrance being narrow and then opening up is the standard, Isn't it? Doesn't it just excite you? It's hard to convey that sense of being dropped somewhere unknown though. Image-wise, It's halfway between the surface and the underworld, so If you think of traveling to the underworld as a business trip, It's like being stuck on an airplane. You can see a lot, but you can't really do much.

Stage3

星熊勇儀

Stage 3

Yuugi Hoshiguma

Reimu


地底の中では唯一話が通じるやつだわ。お酒も美味しくしてくれるしね。

6
The only person in the underworld who makes any sense. She'll make my sake taste better.

Marisa


やっぱり鬼はすごいよな。力も強いし良さそうなアイテムも持ってる。正直うらやましい。

7
Oni really are amazing, huh? On top of being super strong, they have all these great items. To be honest, I'm jealous.

Satori


一見裏表がなさそうだけれど、他の場所へ行っている萃香に嫉妬しているのよねぇ。不器用な生き物なのね。

7
At first glance, it seems like she wouldn't stab you in the back, but actually she's jealous of Suika who can travel freely. What an awkward creature.

ZUN

急に町が出てきます。本来なら5面で見せるような変化ですが、早くもそれがここに来ちゃう。ずっと暗い背景だと、遊んでて疲れますからね。町は江戸時代的なイメージで、勇儀なんかは「てやんでぇ!」とか行って出てきそうだよね。もちろん勇儀は江戸っ子じゃあないけど、イメージだけは江戸っ子です。

And suddenly, a town. Originally I wanted to save this for stage 5, but I got sick of all the dark backgrounds. The town has an Edo era, and Yuugi seems like the type that might shout "Teyandee!". Not that she speaks like that of course.

Stage4

古明地さとり

Stage 4

Satori Komeiji

Reimu

-1
こいつには絶対に近寄っては駄目よ。

-1
Don't ever go near this girl.

Marisa


心を読まれるのがこんなに居心地悪いとはな。何にもやましいところは無いが。

0
I don't mind havin' my mind read. I've got nothin' to be ashamed of, after all!

Satori

11
心を読む能力は本当に素晴らしい。どんな相手にも通用する最高の力だわ。これ以上の評価は出来ない点数ね。

11
The ability to read minds is a truly amazing one! The best ability you can have against any opponent, I can't rate it any higher than this.

ZUN

「地霊殿」っていうタイトルのゲームで地霊殿に来るわけだから、ゲーム的にはここがスタートラインです。ようやく物語が始まる。スタートが遅いですね(笑)。地獄のイメージからも「地霊殿」っていう言葉のイメージからも離れたゴシック的なイメージで曲と背景を作っています。前の3面が「ザ・江戸」な雰囲気だったので、そこから反対のステージにしたくて。

Both the game and the place are called chireiden, so game-wise this is just the starting line. the story finally begins. Such a late start (laugh). I also wanted to convey a sense of "hell" so I diverged from "Palace of Earth Spirits" and made both the music and background gothic. Stage 3 had an Edo atmosphere, so I made this stage the exact opposite.

Stage5

火焔猫燐

Stage 5

Rin Kaenbyou

Reimu


死体を片付けてくれるのはありがたいけど、やっぱり縁起が悪いのは良くないわ。

4: It's nice that she's cleaning up the corpses, but she's still not a good omen.

Marisa


死体を集めて何に使っているんだろう? 食料なのか、燃料なのか……それとも友達? 嫌だなぁ。

5: What does she do with all the dead bodies she collects? Does she use 'em as food, fuel...or are they friends? Ugh, I hate that...

Satori

10
お燐はよく懐いてくれるし、毛並みも綺麗でかわいいわ。ふと気づくと横で寝ていたりするのも、温かくて気持ちいいからつい撫でちゃうのよね。

10: Orin is very fond of me; her fur is so beautiful and cute! Whenever I see her sleeping next to me, she's so warm and comfortable that I can't help but want to pet her.

ZUN

火の中って難しいですよね。いろんなゲームで火山に行くけど、はかない調子かドラムだけみたいな、あんまりイケイケな感じではないものが多くて、僕もそれにならいました。火自体にパワーがあるから、他の要素は力を抜いたほうがいいんですね。場所は地獄なんだけど、捨てられたもののさみしさを出せたらと思っています。でもそこに居る猫は元気で、ボスでは急に明るい曲がかかる。

It's hard to portray being in the flames. Plenty of games have you entering a volcano, but maybe because It's transient they seem to focus on the drums, and often have a "Go, go!" feel to them. That's how I learned it too. Fire has a power all on It's own, so you should remove all other features. The setting is in Hell, but It's abandoned so I thought It'd be a little lonely. But living there is a cheerful cat, so the boss music is suddenly cheery.

Stage6

霊烏路空

Stage 6

Utsuho Reiuji

Reimu


どれだけ素晴らしいかしらないけど、未知の力なんて結局危ないだけじゃん。

1: Not sure how magnificent they are, but unknown powers are simply dangerous, in the end.

Marisa


圧倒的なパワーには憧れるが、扱うのに鳥頭にならなきゃいけないってのはゴメンだ。

6: As much as I wanna have overwhelming power, I don't wanna have to become a birdbrain in order to handle it.

Satori

10
馬鹿な子ほどかわいいとは言うけど、お空は私のお手伝いをしてくれるし、毛づくろいもしてくれるかわいいペットよ。

10: They say that that dumb children are cuter, but Okuu is a cute pet who both helps me and grooms her own hair!

ZUN

地底の奥深くにもぐっていくと、地底なのに明るくて太陽がある、というのは古典的なネタですね。地底にどうやって太陽を作るかを考えて、じゃあ八咫烏が出てきたらいいな、とか。ただの太陽じゃなくて、核融合の方に寄せたほうが面白くなるから、とか。そういうことを考えました。見た目が派手でゲームとして難しいかもしれないけど、インパクトを与えることには成功してる気がします。

You arrive in the depths of the earth, only to find it illuminated by a sun. That a classic sort of twist. So I thought about how to make a sun underground, and the idea of Yatagarasu popped up. And then I thought maybe It'd be more interesting if It weren't just any sun, but the power of nuclear fusion. It was that sort of train of thought. As a game, It's hard to make it look flashy enough, but in terms of impact I feel like I suceeded.

EXStage

古明地こいし

EX Stage

Koishi Komeiji

Reimu


あのさとりの妹だけど、心を読まないぶん姉よりマシだわ。空気だけど。

0: She's Satori's younger sister, but she isn't any better just because she can't read minds. She's somewhat airheaded too.

Marisa


何考えてるかわからない奴だが、組んでみると素直で扱いやすい奴なんだよ。

8: It's hard to tell what she's thinkin', but working with her, you find that she's straightforward and easy to handle.

Satori


姉としては妹のことはいつも心配。どこに行ってるのか、危ない目に合っていないか気が気じゃないわ。せっかく最高の能力を持っているのに使わないのは残念ね。

7: As the elder sister, I'm always worried for my younger sister. She has no concern as to where she goes, nor does she wonder if she's in a dangerous situation or not. Her ability is high-class, it's a shame that she doesn't make full use of it...

ZUN

嫌われ者をいろいろボスとして出してきたけど、こういう別の形の嫌われ者もいるよ、という展開です。心を閉ざした者は嫌われる、ということを暗に……ぜんぜん暗じゃなく(笑)出しました。周りから嫌われることを恐れて心を閉ざしてしまうと、閉ざす前よりもかえって嫌われてしまうんじゃないかなって。

You've fought plenty of hated people as bosses already, but then there's someone who responded to that in a different way. Someone hated who closed their heart, in a dark... Actually, she's not dark at all (laugh)! I was thinking something like someone who closed their heart out of fear of being hated, but that just makes her even more hated.