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Nubnuber: proverb -> idiom
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Kageshirou at 06:33, 2 June 2017
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Masuo64: Undo revision 297017 by Masuo64 (talk) sorry, it's maybe a mistake.
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<p>Undo revision 297017 by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Masuo64" title="Special:Contributions/Masuo64">Masuo64</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masuo64" title="User talk:Masuo64">talk</a>) sorry, it's maybe a mistake.</p>
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Masuo64: translated "壺" to "pot"
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<p>translated "壺" to "pot"</p>
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Clarste: That's also the generic kanji for "jar". Also, probably NOT a "hu" because they seem to be bronze, but "firing" only makes sense for earthenware. even if it is, "jar" is still accurate enough, taken as a generic term
2013-04-04T07:08:14Z
<p>That's also the generic kanji for "jar". Also, probably NOT a "hu" because they seem to be bronze, but "firing" only makes sense for earthenware. even if it is, "jar" is still accurate enough, taken as a generic term</p>
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