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[[User:Tsukihime/Album_Dump|Album dump]] - All albums released recently that may need to be added to the list!
== Note to contributors: Read this first! ==
*Use [[Template:MusicArticle|this template]] when creating or revising any albums
*When uploading images, use the following naming scheme:
:*'''Albums with catalogno'''
:*:catalogno.ext (ie: ABCD-1234.jpg)
:*:catalogno_banner.ext (ie: ABCD-1234_banner.jpg)
:*'''Albums without catalogno'''
:*:albumname.ext (ie: my_heart.jpg
:*:albumname_banner.ext (ie: my_heart_banner.jpg)
* When adding a new album to the circle (group) listing, use the following format
: album_name (release year)
: ie: ''My Heart (2010)''
* If an album name conflicts with an existing page, add the circle's name to the page name
: ie: ''<nowiki>[[My heart_(tsuki) | My Heart]]</nowiki> (2010)''
* When adding a new circle, list it alphabetically.
* If a new circle is in japanese, try to find an english name or try to romanize it. It is ok if you can't. If you can, it should be listed with the translated name first
: translated_name (original name)
: ie: ''Hachimitsu Kuma-san (はちみつくまさん)''
* Note that some circles have been romanized so search the page (ctrl+F) before adding it
* If you are getting information from [http://www.vgmdb.net vgmdb] or [http://www16.atwiki.jp/toho/ CDwiki], you can use some of the [http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User:Tsukihime tools] I wrote to make it easier
Happy editing! --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 07:51, 31 December 2010 (PST)
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== Kanji names, wrong sections ==
== Kanji names, wrong sections ==


I've noticed a number of the groups are listed under the wrong heading, mainly the ones that are listed with their kanji/kana but without a romanization. I don't know if it's because people just can't read it or not, but that gives even more reason to just avoid all of this kanji in the first place and stick to romaji. Having kanji is probably completely useless to most of the people that are using them. This is the english wiki after all and most people are probably going to search using roman characters and will recognize them by their romanized names. I don't really understand the point of using the "'original' japanese names" as there are romanized versions on this site already! --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 17 Dec 2010
I've noticed a number of the groups are listed under the wrong heading, mainly the ones that are listed with their kanji/kana but without a romanization. I don't know if it's because people just can't read it or don't know how it works (ie: し does not go under さ even though they both start with an S in romaji), but that gives even more reason to just avoid all of this kanji in the first place and stick to romaji. But ok, I will think about it from another perspective: I realize that perhaps all of the ones that start with a romaji S has been decided to go under "さ" because it's easier for people, but really. Having kanji is probably completely useless to most of the people that are using them anyways. This is the english wiki after all and most people are probably going to search using roman characters and will recognize them by their romanized names. I don't really understand the point of using the "'original' japanese names" as there are romanized versions on this site already! --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 17 Dec 2010
 
 
 
 
== Renaming categories ==
 
I want all of the group names to be displayed primarily in romaji.
At least, there should not be any japanese category names on this page. All album pages will not be touched. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 10:22, 21 December 2010 (PST)
 
:The proposed change would flip the existing "Kanji (romaji)" names to "Romaji (Kanji)", so that the original name is preserved for searching, but it would make it less confusing and easier to sort alphabetically. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 12:06, 21 December 2010 (PST)
 
:: Renamed and moved a number of circles. Most of it is straight romanization, some are based off vgmdb, and others are simply based on what seems to be used on their site. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 18:25, 22 December 2010 (PST)
 
==Image filename standards==
Perhaps we should agree on some standard for image names? Right now I use the following
 
<u>Albums with catalogno</u>
 
catalogno_cover.ext<br />
catalogno_banner.ext
 
<u>Albums with no catalogno</u>
 
album_name_cover.ext<br />
album_name_banner.ext
 
Only so make it clear that it is a cover or banner. Later we might have other things related to a group so...<br />
<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] ([[User talk:Tsukihime|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tsukihime|contribs]]) 16:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)</small>
 
:Well I suggest that:
:*'''Albums with catalogno'''
:*:catalogno.ext
:*:catalogno_banner.ext
:*'''Albums without catalogno'''
:*:albumname.ext
:*:albumname_banner.ext
:This is more neatly than previous _cover naming scheme - [[User:KyoriAsh|KyoriAsh]] 09:03, 26 December 2010 (PST)
 
::Guess we'll go with that. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 10:37, 26 December 2010 (PST)
 
== Tracklist template ==
 
We should agree on a track list template quickly so that new albums added will not have to be re-parsed.
Since we may be using semantic wiki in the future a template would be preferred. Even if we are not using it, a template would still be preferred. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 07:53, 31 December 2010 (PST)
:[[Template Talk:Track|Why I think that a template should not be used]]. [[User:jigglyppuff8|jigglyppuff8]] <sup>[[User Talk:jigglyppuff8|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jigglyppuff8|Contribs]]</sub> 11:00, 31 December 2010 (PST)
 
== Ezel-Ash ==
 
Where is it? They have a bunch of songs, and they're not listed.
 
:It seems that Ezel-Ash is listed under E館, based on the group's website. I have updated the listing to include both names. Unfortunately, the current list by group format only allows for albums to be listed there, and seeing how the group doesn't release albums (therefore, does not have an actual CD), there isn't a way to write down their works even though they have a couple dozen arrange songs on their site. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 04:41, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::Why not just add them with their site url in place of an album? People do use this place as a source to find new music sometimes. IDK what people's thoughts on that is though...
:::That would work. Currently I prioritize album links over anything else, and if I don't find an album link I usually just leave it blank. But realistically speaking not all albums would have their own dedicated webpage so it would make sense to put up their homepage. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 12:38, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 
== Guest Appearances ==
 
The wiki currently doesn't seem to list a groups guest appearances on other groups albums.
Is this ok to add anyway, and that case how?
 
I was thinking of adding a page to the album list called "guest appearances" or something similar and on that page list the pages of other groups albums and information  about the tracks they've contributed with.
 
One example is [[CROW'SCLAW]]. Guest appearances are listed on this page at the bottom [http://www.crowsclaw.info/disco.php].
--[[User:Svinto|Svinto]] 2011-04-30 22:15 (UTC)
 
:I would think it is enough to just indicate that in the album that the artist appeared in. Some people have included such information in the respective albums as "guest features" or "guest arrangers"  and then noted which track. Of course this doesn't mean you'll find which ones they appeared in, and for example some vocalists that appear everywhere people sort of get lazy.
:However, I think their circle page would be a good place to put it, as most guest appearances are for like one track or something --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 14:52, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:Looking at it again, the current album standards lists any guest appearances in the staff list with their group indicated beside it. --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 15:19, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::Ok, so guest appearances should go in the track information on each album page, and it's ok to add info about guest appearances on the circle page. Sounds good. --[[User:Svinto|Svinto]] 2011-05-01 22:12 (UTC)
 
== 白楽亭 ==
 
I haven't been able to find any info on this group in English.
[[CROW'SCLAW]] made a guest appearance on one of their albums: [http://hakurakutei.web.fc2.com/reitai7.html 閻魔日和]
--[[User:Svinto|Svinto]] 2011-04-30 22:26 (UTC)
:First time I've heard of the group. Seems like they've only produced one album as well. Then again, it was pretty hard to navigate their blog lol. Do you know if he has more than one? I found this on [http://vgmdb.net/album/10222 vgmdb] and it sort of looks like what he likes  --[[User:Tsukihime|Tsukihime]] 14:58, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::The only reason I found them was because I'm trying to get hold of track 06. Consequence of her deeds~獄熱絶己~ by [[CROW'SCLAW]]. The track is really good IMO so I'm surprised no one seems to know anything. I know nothing more I'm afraid. --[[User:Svinto|Svinto]] 2011-05-01 22:06 (UTC)
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