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Some albums do not have an image because either the album never had one or the album was much too obscure for any scans of it to ever be found. Could someone that can edit the template make it so that if there is no image specified, that it will display something along the lines of "No Image" in its place? [[User:jigglyppuff8|jigglyppuff8]] <sup>[[User Talk:jigglyppuff8|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jigglyppuff8|Contribs]]</sub> 22:22, 24 December 2010 (PST)
 
Some albums do not have an image because either the album never had one or the album was much too obscure for any scans of it to ever be found. Could someone that can edit the template make it so that if there is no image specified, that it will display something along the lines of "No Image" in its place? [[User:jigglyppuff8|jigglyppuff8]] <sup>[[User Talk:jigglyppuff8|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jigglyppuff8|Contribs]]</sub> 22:22, 24 December 2010 (PST)
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Another thing I have to bother you with. In the case that an album doesn't have a catalog number and the field is left blank, can it be made so that the default value is "N/A"? I've been doing this (and will continue to do so) manually, but there is some merit in having the template itself do it when the field is left blank. [[User:jigglyppuff8|jigglyppuff8]] <sup>[[User Talk:jigglyppuff8|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jigglyppuff8|Contribs]]</sub> 12:04, 26 December 2010 (PST)

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Illustrator comes out...[edit]

I checked for a few times, still can't figure out why "Illustrator" comes out, anyone help to fix?
PS: The version before nereid working with no "Illustrator" comes out. - KyoriAsh 02:50, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Self fixed - KyoriAsh 04:40, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

titleen[edit]

It seems that this is compulsory. Most album titles get only so much as their Japanese title and a romanization these days, so it would be best if this were optional. I only have the basic of basic knowledge of templates and I don't want to mess anything up so... !8RstuPId2Y 06:02, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I taught that all music title basically sure got EN translation title... oh well let's see this how first - KyoriAsh 07:00, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
Much appreciated. !8RstuPId2Y 01:42, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Category:Arrange CDs[edit]

Since this is the MusicArticle template, I guess that means it's a catchall for all CD articles. That brings up the problem of the Offical CDs. The Official CDs however aren't necessarily arrange CDs. A couple are, but not all; the manga enclosures, Akyu's untouched score, etc. Options are:

  1. Pretend MusicArticle doesn't exist and use Infobox Music for those articles instead.
  2. Axe the automatic Category:Arrange CDs and manually put what category of CD it is.

Personally, the former looks like the better option to me. So... Yeah. Just wanted to bring up this point. !8RstuPId2Y 01:42, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, good point. I prefer the second option though, since the MusicArticle template would work just as well for the Official CD articles (except for that difference). I'll go ahead and remove the Arrange CDs category from this template. —Nereid talk 04:02, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
Also help to axe the ----<br />*Return to [[List of Groups]] for me if this include Official CD, or {{#if:}} again? - KyoriAsh 13:42, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
I like the musictype parameter you added, and I agree with having List of Groups only if it's not an Official CD. —Nereid talk 17:00, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
On a related note, Official CDs don't have reviews, but if no review is specified then currently {{Genre Needed}} is used as default. But it seems there's no way to have no review section at all. (See User:Nereid0/test.) —Nereid talk 17:15, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
Considering other than {{#if}} but I don't know how to use... — KyoriAsh 17:57, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
Switch case may solve the problem, but how to coding I not sure about it — KyoriAsh 18:09, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
Why not make musictype optional? E.g. specify it explicitly only if it's official CD. Most MusicArticles are about Arrange CDs anyway. WGH, 13:48, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

image parameter[edit]

Should it be same with banner parameter in which only throw the file name? — KyoriAsh 18:27, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

No reason why not. Just upload a No Image Available.jpg for that occasional album and it should be all good. !8RstuPId2Y 22:12, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

[edit][edit]

When, editing the article from the [edit] link, it takes you to editing the template instead of editing the article. Anyway we can still have the headline but without the [edit] link? !8RstuPId2Y 20:09, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Done. —Nereid talk 02:37, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Multiple groups[edit]

How would you go about adding multiple groups if a cd has more than one group? MaronaPossessed 00:46, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I figured out a temp solution:
| group = first group here & second group here

add these:

| groupCat = first group here
| groupCat2 = second group here
what this does on "group" is list it as normal, but it doesn't add the categories, so use the groupcat to add the categories. So far only works for two groups. MaronaPossessed 20:12, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the "groupCat" and "groupCat2" fields automatically override whatever is in the "group" field when it comes to categories (in fact, albums with more than one circle are one of the reasons why they're there). There's no need for <nowiki> tags to be used. It's just extra code. 68.84.74.52 20:19, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Easy navigation between albums[edit]

As of now, there is no way to navigate between different albums of the same group. Well, there actually is, but it involves finding its category below. Categories also don't have any reasonable sorting. Inconvenient.

I propose to add navigational box below to every article, which will contain links to other group's releases. I think MusicArcicle template can do it for us. For example, we can make the template include other template called like {{Navbox/%category%}} (where category is either group or groupCat). Just fill navboxes in and we would be done. No need to edit every page, since categories are already filled. --WGH 13:49, 17 November 2010 (PST)

So all that would need to be done is to create navboxes for every doujin circle? I like the sound of that. It promotes completion of discographies since there will be a red link there taunting me to get it done. Also, don't forget about groupCat2.
There is the problem of circles that have only released one album and have since never released another Touhou album though. Maybe something like a "navbox" parameter with yes/no switches could be a solution? !8RstuPId2Y Talk Contribs 14:51, 17 November 2010 (PST)
Instead of switch, we may just create a blank template when needed.
Take a look: Template:IOSYS Albums. Is this kind of template good or not? --WGH 06:42, 18 November 2010 (PST)
I've modified the MusicArticles template. See Category:Arrange_CDs_navigational_templates for examples. --WGH 10:56, 18 November 2010 (PST)
P.S. Special:WantedTemplates --WGH 12:24, 18 November 2010 (PST)
Return to links should be preserved, I think - KyoriAsh 08:27, 20 November 2010 (PST)
For official CDs, Navbox is much better. For arrange CDs... I'd use search instead of that immense list. --WGH 07:34, 22 November 2010 (PST)

Request half-protected for this article[edit]

As said, this is a high-volume template page, best is only allow for registered users to do it, thanks in advance - KyoriAsh 03:25, 27 November 2010 (PST)

Done. --WGH 03:35, 27 November 2010 (PST)

Track Template[edit]

So, while we're turning things into templates, I figured it'd be appropriate for track listings to have their own template. Much like other templates, this will help ensure consistency for track listings. You can find it at Template:Track. I haven't yet implemented it on any actual album pages yet, as I'd like to hear from some others about it. Here is a sample album page using the Track template (as well as the H:title template as per discussion on Talk:List by Song): User:K/TemplateTesting. -- K 02:12, 20 December 2010 (PST)

Now this is just getting complicated. MusicArticle made the process more streamlined and easier compared to the previous method of making pages (Compare this to this), but this just makes copying and pasting tracklists a pain. Having to copy and paste an entire template every time I want to add a track? It may be consistent, but I can see it becoming a time consumer. Which kind of defeats the purpose of a template making a task simpler and easier.
To put it another way,
{{Track
 | tracknum   = 01
 | title      = [[Lyrics: 幻想のサテライト|{{lang|ja|幻想のサテライト}}]]
 | titletrans = Fantasy Satellite
 | length     = 3:51
 | lyricist   = {{lang|ja|ランコの姉}}
 | origtitle  = {{lang|ja|天空のグリニッジ}}
 | source     = MA
}}
uses 183 characters (spaces excluded), while
*01.'''[[Lyrics: 幻想のサテライト|{{lang|ja|幻想のサテライト}}]]''' ''(03:51)''
** ''Fantasy Satellite''
** lyrics: {{lang|ja|ランコの姉}}
** original title: {{lang|ja|天空のグリニッジ}}
** source: {{MA}}
uses 176. jigglyppuff8 Talk Contribs 03:59, 20 December 2010 (PST)

image[edit]

Some albums do not have an image because either the album never had one or the album was much too obscure for any scans of it to ever be found. Could someone that can edit the template make it so that if there is no image specified, that it will display something along the lines of "No Image" in its place? jigglyppuff8 Talk Contribs 22:22, 24 December 2010 (PST)

catalogno[edit]

Another thing I have to bother you with. In the case that an album doesn't have a catalog number and the field is left blank, can it be made so that the default value is "N/A"? I've been doing this (and will continue to do so) manually, but there is some merit in having the template itself do it when the field is left blank. jigglyppuff8 Talk Contribs 12:04, 26 December 2010 (PST)