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::::::In the ending she literally said she can't stay in the Netherworld because she took the elixir, period. And sorry, but for someone ready to dismiss "interpretations" and "implications" you sound kind of a hypocrite. You discard both Eirin's ''stated fact'' and Yukari's opinion which coincides with it, but for some reason you take Youmu's line (which funnily enough is also subject to interpretation when you translate it) as the absolute truth. Want a fact? Youmu didn't make the Netherworld, she isn't omniscient, and she has no way of knowing if Mokou could enter the Netherworld since we never saw Mokou trying, so using your same reasoning it's just her opinion and she could be wrong, or it could not apply to non-humans like Eirin. It's "Eirin's stated fact + Yukari's opinion" vs "Youmu's ''highly'' interpretable opinion". Remove the opinions, you are left with one fact: Eirin is immortal. [[User:PK|PK]] ([[User talk:PK|talk]]) 08:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::In the ending she literally said she can't stay in the Netherworld because she took the elixir, period. And sorry, but for someone ready to dismiss "interpretations" and "implications" you sound kind of a hypocrite. You discard both Eirin's ''stated fact'' and Yukari's opinion which coincides with it, but for some reason you take Youmu's line (which funnily enough is also subject to interpretation when you translate it) as the absolute truth. Want a fact? Youmu didn't make the Netherworld, she isn't omniscient, and she has no way of knowing if Mokou could enter the Netherworld since we never saw Mokou trying, so using your same reasoning it's just her opinion and she could be wrong, or it could not apply to non-humans like Eirin. It's "Eirin's stated fact + Yukari's opinion" vs "Youmu's ''highly'' interpretable opinion". Remove the opinions, you are left with one fact: Eirin is immortal. [[User:PK|PK]] ([[User talk:PK|talk]]) 08:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::::She didn't litterally say she couldn't go to the Netherworld because of the Elixir. Unless you're talking about the CiLR ending and in this case there's no elixir mentionned at all. Youmu doesn't need to have made the Netherworld to know about it, and she is saying that since she's an immortal, she can't go there. Where has the fact about Eirin being immortal said? Nowhere. You didn't tell me, you were just saying "she said it, period". [[User:BraviNoname|BraviNoname]] ([[User talk:BraviNoname|talk]]) 14:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::::She didn't litterally say she couldn't go to the Netherworld because of the Elixir. Unless you're talking about the CiLR ending and in this case there's no elixir mentionned at all. Youmu doesn't need to have made the Netherworld to know about it, and she is saying that since she's an immortal, she can't go there. Where has the fact about Eirin being immortal said? Nowhere. You didn't tell me, you were just saying "she said it, period". [[User:BraviNoname|BraviNoname]] ([[User talk:BraviNoname|talk]]) 14:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::::"She didn't litterally say she couldn't go to the Netherworld because of the Elixir."? The sentence in the Ghost ending of Imperishable Night is '''"Besides, I took the elixir made with the princess' power. Too bad, i can't take care of the Netherworld."'''. They aren't separate sentences, i didn't take them from different parts of the ending. How much more explicit does it have to be? Also ''"Where has the fact about Eirin being immortal said? Nowhere."? I already told you it's right there in CiLR: ''"Yukari grinned. That ominous smile left a deep scar in Eirin's mind, something she would never be able to forget. '''To make those who cannot die''' question the meaning of living. To make them fear the unknown, what they cannot understand. That was the true intention behind Yukari's Second Lunar Invasion."''. Unless you are supporting the ridiculous idea that it somehow doesn't refer to Eirin when the entire last part of the chapter is about Yukari and Eirin, because it would be pretty fucking stupid. [[User:PK|PK]] ([[User talk:PK|talk]]) 18:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::::"She didn't litterally say she couldn't go to the Netherworld because of the Elixir."? The sentence in the Ghost ending of Imperishable Night is '''"Besides, I took the elixir made with the princess' power. Too bad, i can't take care of the Netherworld."'''. They aren't separate sentences, i didn't take them from different parts of the ending. How much more explicit does it have to be? Also ''"Where has the fact about Eirin being immortal said? Nowhere."''? I already told you it's right there in CiLR: ''"Yukari grinned. That ominous smile left a deep scar in Eirin's mind, something she would never be able to forget. '''To make those who cannot die question the meaning of living.''' To make them fear the unknown, what they cannot understand. That was the true intention behind Yukari's Second Lunar Invasion."''. Unless you are supporting the ridiculous idea that it somehow doesn't refer to Eirin when the entire last part of the chapter is about Yukari and Eirin, because it would be pretty fucking stupid. [[User:PK|PK]] ([[User talk:PK|talk]]) 18:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
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