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:::::Again, the CiLR thing is only up to interpretation. Didn't explicitly say that Eirin consumed the elixir, it was implied by Yukari. What you've said about the Netherworld barrier is only an interpretation as well, it hasn't been said that Eirin has a time limit when she goes there, and it has been said by Youmu that Mokou can't go to the Netherworld period because of her immortality, so I doubt any other hourai immortal can. If it's said 4 people used the Elixir, the fourth could be either Eirin or some unknown person. [[User:BraviNoname|BraviNoname]] ([[User talk:BraviNoname|talk]]) 01:20, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::Again, the CiLR thing is only up to interpretation. Didn't explicitly say that Eirin consumed the elixir, it was implied by Yukari. What you've said about the Netherworld barrier is only an interpretation as well, it hasn't been said that Eirin has a time limit when she goes there, and it has been said by Youmu that Mokou can't go to the Netherworld period because of her immortality, so I doubt any other hourai immortal can. If it's said 4 people used the Elixir, the fourth could be either Eirin or some unknown person. [[User:BraviNoname|BraviNoname]] ([[User talk:BraviNoname|talk]]) 01:20, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::In the ending she literally said she can't stay in the Netherworld because she took the elixir, period. And sorry, but for someone ready to dismiss "interpretations" and "implications" you sound kind of a hypocrite. You discard both Eirin's ''stated fact'' and Yukari's opinion which coincides with it, but for some reason you take Youmu's line (which funnily enough is also subject to interpretation when you translate it) as the absolute truth. Want a fact? Youmu didn't make the Netherworld, she isn't omniscient, and she has no way of knowing if Mokou could enter the Netherworld since we never saw Mokou trying, so using your same reasoning it's just her opinion and she could be wrong, or it could not apply to non-humans like Eirin. It's "Eirin's stated fact + Yukari's opinion" vs "Youmu's ''highly'' interpretable opinion". Remove the opinions, you are left with one fact: Eirin is immortal. [[User:PK|PK]] ([[User talk:PK|talk]]) 08:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::In the ending she literally said she can't stay in the Netherworld because she took the elixir, period. And sorry, but for someone ready to dismiss "interpretations" and "implications" you sound kind of a hypocrite. You discard both Eirin's ''stated fact'' and Yukari's opinion which coincides with it, but for some reason you take Youmu's line (which funnily enough is also subject to interpretation when you translate it) as the absolute truth. Want a fact? Youmu didn't make the Netherworld, she isn't omniscient, and she has no way of knowing if Mokou could enter the Netherworld since we never saw Mokou trying, so using your same reasoning it's just her opinion and she could be wrong, or it could not apply to non-humans like Eirin. It's "Eirin's stated fact + Yukari's opinion" vs "Youmu's ''highly'' interpretable opinion". Remove the opinions, you are left with one fact: Eirin is immortal. [[User:PK|PK]] ([[User talk:PK|talk]]) 08:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::::She didn't litterally say she couldn't go to the Netherworld because of the Elixir. Unless you're talking about the CiLR ending and in this case there's no elixir mentionned at all. Youmu doesn't need to have made the Netherworld to know about it, and she is saying that since she's an immortal, she can't go there. Where has the fact about Eirin being immortal said? Nowhere. You didn't tell me, you were just saying "she said it, period". [[User:BraviNoname|BraviNoname]] ([[User talk:BraviNoname|talk]]) 14:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
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