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Kaguya's Sixth Impossible Request

*Global Usage per KyoriAsh

Request granted. Chloe 03:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Disabled due to nonfunctionality. Chloe 23:56, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Database dumps

A while back I requested public database dumps to become available at touhouwiki.net. You replied you needed time to assess the bandwidth usage and thus available resources to do so. It's now several months beyond that point, so I guess you had time to look at the statistics and estimate whether you can miss a couple hundreds of mbs per month on publishing the dumps. It doesn't even matter if you host them onsite or offsite. Database dumps are a sign of openness (wikia has frequent dumps, wikipedia has been doing it for years) and public back-ups appear well to a community. In fact, touhouwiki.net needed the database dumps to easily copy all articles to their new site, meaning it relied on those dumps. I believe it's necessary to release the dumps. It doesn't cost any additional resources as you need to backup your site regardless. Redtails 10:16, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

The past few months have seen a large increase in traffic due to Ten Desires, causing the server to go over quota more than once. This traffic has subsided a bit, but is still more than double what it used to be. There have been further bandwidth tweaks done in the last month, so until the trends of these fixes are made clear, the answer will unfortunately be that extra bandwidth is not a luxury to be afforded at this time. Chloe 14:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

If you're having trouble with bandwidth costs for dumps, let me know the cost and size of a nightly text-only dump and I'll consider sorting something out if it sounds sensible -- I can provide a server you can scp it to (or scp it from you, perhaps) and try to engineer some sort of bittorrent-based solution; I imagine it'd be a fun project. I'm midway through embarking on a Touhou music metadata project, and TouhouWiki would be a pleasant addition to it if I ever finish. Bucko 11:50, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm curious why you want database dumps in the first place? Momiji 16:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
A nightly text-only dump would double the traffic on this site assuming even one person downloaded it nightly. Reviewing the numbers, double is an exaggeration; 15% is the actual approximate usage that this project would entail. This remains an untenable share for one person's project. Chloe 05:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm working on a system for mapping between various sources of information on Touhou music. I might even finish it one day. Bucko 08:26, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Donation/finances

I notice you have a donation button but no indication of what your costs/income from donations is. I'm happy to support online communities, but I like to see in return where the money goes. :) Bucko 11:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

The server is $40 USD a month, not including months where bandwidth has gone over quota. I can compile a list of donations to date if you'd like; I have not done so already as I feel it would be out of place on the site. Chloe 18:14, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, it's mostly out of curiosity and efficiency -- I know certain fansub groups pull hundreds of dollars a month in and use the money to pay for stupidly overpowered servers "because they're cool." (One in particular had a pair of $150/mo servers which they used occasionally for video encoding. Instead of, you know, their own PCs...) I have a moral objection to donating to places the money will just be wasted like that. (Couldn't they at least spend the extra on the BDs they copy?!)
One of the older websites I used to help out with had a 'balance' page which listed every transaction, which acted as the donations page; the admin got a bit sick of keeping it up to date because lack of donations meant he frequently had to put thousand dollar transactions through the page. I don't really care about an itemised breakdown like that, but even a 'money in/money out' (or just 'money in' with hints at costs) each month helps to establish whether we're donating to keep the site up or donating because we appreciate the hosting/admin work. As a community website, I don't think there's much of a problem with the community being aware of its own costs. Basically I'm a big fan of open finance! Bucko 08:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

zh side Search Function Down

As per title, the search no longer return suggested result and still in grey words instead of normal words. - KyoriAsh 23:34, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

No changes have been made to the infrastructure since you last reported this as an issue. Chloe 23:56, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Text typed into the search bar is black, not grey. Must be an IE thing. K 19:23, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Watchlist star-button does not work

Redirects to http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Undefined (humorously appropriate: Undefined itself does not exist). Checking the "Watch this page" box (when editing a page) still adds the page to the watchlist, but clicking the star-button (between "Read"/"Edit"/etc and the searchbar at the right-top of the screen) simply gives that odd redirect. K.B. 22:25, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Please try now. Chloe 22:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Works - thanks! K.B. 00:56, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Main page extremely slow after server outage

Minor issue that seems to have surfaced after the unexpected datacenter outage the other week: The main page at http://touhouwiki.net and http://www.touhouwiki.net don't seem to load. Did the redirect rules blow up or something? Not urgent, just leaving a note. K 19:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Revision: Seems to just be slow as all hell, as if it's waiting/giving up on API calls to the individual wikis or something. The top portion of the page loads after a long wait, but the wiki-content div never fills up. K 19:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Eureka: Issue persists on the mainpage versions on my own server, which has error reporting turned on. It's timing out on API calls to the French wiki. French wiki is down, it seems. Issue scope is now beyond touhouwiki.net itself. K 20:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Write API

Hello. During my absense, my bot ceased to work. The last successful run was on 13 August. It says that the wiki has write API disabled ("Editing of this wiki through the API is disabled. Make sure the $wgEnableWriteAPI=true; statement is included in the wiki's LocalSettings.php file"). Is it possible to reenable it? Thanks. -WGH 09:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Enabling write API causes the page watch star functionality to fail. Chloe 01:06, 29 August 2011 (UTC) Or rather, that was the former problem which is no longer manifesting. Chloe 01:08, 29 August 2011 (UTC)