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AQN

Here is one page (among many) that mention "Akkyun" or "AQN":

http://thwiki.info/?%C5%EC%CA%FD%A5%B9%A5%EC%C5%AA%A5%AD%A5%E3%A5%E9%BE%D2%B2%F0%2F3

--192.5.109.49 03:44, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Asking of Spelling Reform

I think "Akyuu" is better than "Akyu". The titles of CD series "Akyu's Untouched Score" is ZUN-ized style, a little unfit to an appropriate transcription of Japanese into English. Is it OK to move this article "Hieda no Akyu" into "Hieda no Akyuu"? --masuo64 Talk 18:29, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Seeing as how all other names have adopted this stance, I'm inclined to support it. - Kiefmaster99 19:11, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Yap, there appear no cons, so I'll move this. --masuo64 Talk 11:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Age

In chapter 26 of FS, we are reminded about Akyuu's aging problem, and she says she has more or less 10 years left before, you know, dying. This means she IS aging. Leaving her "first appearance" age and her birth date seems better to me than "10 years old".PK (talk) 10:17, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Definitly. As far as I know, every character ages. It's weird that we didn't change it for Akyuu's age. ☢ Quwanti 12:33, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Unwritten possessive particle no

Was the possessive particle no always omitted in writing (but still pronounced in oral speech) because of the difficulties posed by the exclusive use of Chinese characters (kanji) in writing during Japan's pre-kana history?

Also, I ask if it would be appropriate to add "Akyuu of Hieda" as an alternate name in the infobox (as well as a redirect to this article). ‐⁠‑Silent Sinner in Scarlet (SilSinn9801)⁠💬 19:15, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Debate

Counter-point to NaokiP, originating from the debate in the page's history; Can you address my point of Touhou characters being unaging as shown by UDoALG and EOSD? You never even addressed it to begin with in your edit summary. Unless we're implementing fanon ideas here, Hieda does not have an age. Lutica (talk) 17:46, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


Akyuu does have a canonical chronological age. That is not fanon. The date is specified in the Bunbunmaru Newspaper article commemorating her birth that was featured as a newspaper clipping at the end of Perfect Memento in Strict Sense. It is right at the top of the page.
I will also draw your attention to Chapter 26 of Forbidden Scrollery, in which Akyuu gives offerings to Iwanaga-hime for blessings of longevity, and makes the statement "If all proceeds as it usually has, I should only have about 10 years left."
I could not address your point of Touhou characters being "unaging" as it was an assumption on your part and you have not provided a source. It is a correct assumption, and I'll give you the correct answer: it is something ZUN has stated in an interview in 2018, stating (to paraphrase) that Touhou "operates on Sazae-san time" (meaning that characters do not age in a work of fiction despite it going on for decades) and that "[Akyuu] will live on forever within the confines of such a story." This obviously contradicts existing primary sources and complicates things as a result, but we can probably take his words at face value. That does not, however, in any way at all detract from the fact that we know Akyuu's birthday and that she would, as of the writing of this comment, chronologically be 29 years (or seasons) old.
ZUN has also made a tongue-in-cheek comment in Who's Who of Humans and Youkai about Akyuu's longevity relative to other Children of Miare possibly being attributable to advances in medicine. I interpret this as just a roundabout way for him to put in writing that he has no intention of making her die any time soon, or possibly at any point at all. But that, once again, doesn't mean she does not have a chronological age. NaokiP (talk) 18:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
You make some good points here, but may you first elaborate on what you mean by "chronological" age in order to avoid any potential misunderstandings before I make another statement? Lutica (talk) 18:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
To quote, "If she has lived for a certain amount of years then that's her age. Whether it has story consequences or not doesn't matter." I don't know how else to describe the chronological passing and keeping of time. Just because it may have no bearing on the biological or apparent age of characters for the convenience of storytelling doesn't mean that time hasn't actually passed and been kept. A season in a lunisolar calendar roughly matches the length of a year in the Gregorian calendar, and Gensokyo also uses the Gregorian calendar anyway as stated in CoLA (the specific chapter eludes me). It has chronologically, in-universe (and out of it) been 29 years, or seasons, since the newspaper that wrote about Akyuu being born. NaokiP (talk) 20:00, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
First of all, my apologies for the late response. I was dealing with some brain fog yesterday that rendered me temporarily unable to continue this debate, hence the uncannily unstructured nature of my retorts, but now that it's resolved, I'll submit my reply.
II've read the sources in question and I can't seem to find any holes in your argument nor reasons as to why she wouldn't be 29. With that being said, I'll go ahead and revert my edit. Thank you for clearing this up. Lutica (talk) 14:01, 4 October 2023 (UTC)