Talk:Raiko Horikawa

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Omake.txt[edit]

Where it says "drummer", does it mean that there's a person that's playing her? Or does it mean something like her drum sticks? --Universalperson (talk) 23:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

From the dictionaries I've checked, 奏者 does refer to the person playing the instrument. It's weird, but as far as I'm aware it's not inaccurate. ...there certainly doesn't appear to be an actual drummer accompanying her, though. Maybe it's supposed to refer to the sticks in this context after all? Gilde (talk) 23:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Maybe it's her human body? But thanks for explaining!--Universalperson (talk) 23:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
She's a tsukumogami - she was created from (I assume) the drumset, and like the other tsukumogamis, plays it. That's what I got from it at least. ― Darkslime 15:05, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Well now that Extra's translated I guess we know what it means - I think.---Universalperson (talk) 23:29, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

"The Drum of the Waves of Horikawa"[edit]

Is she somehow connected to this play written by Monzaemon Chikamitsu? Its name in Japanese is "Horikawa no Nami no Tsuzumi (堀川波鼓)." From the research that I have done, I don't think so, but not only is "Horikawa" in the title of the play, but the second kanji in her given name "鼓" can also be pronounced "tsuzumi" and is in the title of the play. Is this just a coincidence? Murasaki (talk) 04:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

"Horikawa Nami no Tsuzumi", the main theme of this play is the man's revenge against his wife and the man in sexual relationship with her. " is pronounced "tsuzumi" in kun-yomi, while it is read as "ko" in on-yomi. Restrictly both mainly mean "Japanese percussion" (sharing the same meaning with another word "和太鼓 (wa-daiko)), but "drum" is expressed as "太鼓" (taiko) — I guess this gap is in an acceptable level. --masuo64 Talk 08:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I was just curious since the name of the play is only one kanji character different from her full name.Murasaki (talk)

Drum Symbols[edit]

Why do I get the feeling that the symbols on the red parts of the drum remind me of the PC98 ages...? MaronaPossessed (talk) 14:38, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't know. --Camilo113 (talk) 03:51, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Wait...here we go. Maybe that's why. Probably not much though...http://pool.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:Resemblerence.PNGMaronaPossessed (talk) 16:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
The only similarity I see is that they're red circles but nothing more. It's pretty pretentious.--Camilo113 (talk) 17:50, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Backstory[edit]

I think it would be a good idea to revise the current backstory for this page. At the time of writing this, it says she was created by the Miracle Mallet's power, but in the official profile she is described as already being a tsukumogami before having the power enter her.

From what I understand, she became a tsukumogami when her original taiko drum reached 100 years of age, but she wasn't a vengeful tsukumogami, and as such didn't get an avatar-body thing. When the Miracle Mallet empowered her, it gave her, as well as other tools, the abilitiy to become full tsukumogami, complete with avatar-body things. The story goes on from there. Does anyone agree, disagree?

Just a nerdy continuity check, nothing else :)
--Sayuno (talk) 00:46, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Support. Maybe the current backstory is speculation. Code Slasher (talk) 01:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
In my opinion, it's kind of ambiguous. I'd say we'd just mention it's not clear if she was created by the DDC Incident or not.--Universalperson (talk) 01:55, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Something like that to avoid confusion in the meantime would be good, although I do feel strongly that it's implied she was already a tsukumogami before the incident, albeit not a particularly powerful one.
--Sayuno (talk) 04:23, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I stupidly didn't look at the profile when I did the backstory. Sorry about that; I'll revise it later, unless someone wants to do it first ― Darkslime 14:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll take a crack at it! Feel free to change or rewrite it if you feel it could be done better.

--Sayuno (talk) 23:32, 21 August 2013 (UTC)